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I need help reading a russian inscription
« on: November 26, 2012, 12:50:36 PM »
This image:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/Vasnetsov_Russian_Bishops.jpg

What is said on the bottom, (i assume names) can anyone identify what names?
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Re: I need help reading a russian inscription
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2012, 01:04:32 PM »
From left to right:

Blessed (Prepodobny) Anthony of the Pecherskaya Lavra, Blessed Sergius of Radonezh, Blessed Theodosius of the Pecherskaya Lavra, Saint Alexi Metropolitan of All Russia, Saint Stephen the Great of Perm, Saint Peter Metropolitan of All Russia.
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Re: I need help reading a russian inscription
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2012, 01:37:01 PM »
Thank you! :)
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Re: I need help reading a russian inscription
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2012, 02:45:30 PM »
This is not Russian.

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Re: I need help reading a russian inscription
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2012, 03:37:12 PM »
This is not Russian.

sorry i cannot tell, i just knew the painter was russian
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Re: I need help reading a russian inscription
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2012, 03:53:09 PM »
A lot of people make that same mistake. Here is a comparison of the two:

Old Church Slavonic (what is used in that icon):



Modern Russian:



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Re: I need help reading a russian inscription
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2012, 05:02:32 PM »
I think that "venerable" is a better translation of prepodobny than "blessed". "Blessed" corresponds rather to blazhenny.
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Re: I need help reading a russian inscription
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2012, 05:11:51 PM »
I think that "venerable" is a better translation of prepodobny than "blessed". "Blessed" corresponds rather to blazhenny.

Google Translate interestingly insists on "reverend" for "преподобный." Must be a glitch.

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Re: I need help reading a russian inscription
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2012, 06:04:27 PM »
I think that "venerable" is a better translation of prepodobny than "blessed". "Blessed" corresponds rather to blazhenny.

Google Translate interestingly insists on "reverend" for "преподобный." Must be a glitch.

Venerable and reverend mean essentially the same thing - just as veneration and reverence are essentially the same.
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Re: I need help reading a russian inscription
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2012, 06:41:30 PM »
I think that "venerable" is a better translation of prepodobny than "blessed". "Blessed" corresponds rather to blazhenny.

Google Translate interestingly insists on "reverend" for "преподобный." Must be a glitch.

Venerable and reverend mean essentially the same thing - just as veneration and reverence are essentially the same.

prepodobny = saint monk

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Re: I need help reading a russian inscription
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2012, 06:50:07 PM »
I think that "venerable" is a better translation of prepodobny than "blessed". "Blessed" corresponds rather to blazhenny.

Google Translate interestingly insists on "reverend" for "преподобный." Must be a glitch.

Venerable and reverend mean essentially the same thing - just as veneration and reverence are essentially the same.

prepodobny = saint monk

Prepodobny/prepodobnaya
is the customary title given to monastic saints who lived to old age, but the word simply means venerable (worthy of reverence). In English, the term venerable old XXXX has been in use for many centuries.
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Re: I need help reading a russian inscription
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2012, 07:59:53 PM »
And how would you translate святитель?  :)
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Re: I need help reading a russian inscription
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2012, 10:14:01 PM »
And how would you translate святитель?  :)

Hierarch. Cвятитель is the usual inscription and liturgical title for bishop-saints.
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Re: I need help reading a russian inscription
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2012, 01:20:43 AM »
And how would you translate святитель?  :)

Hierarch.

saint hierarch

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Re: I need help reading a russian inscription
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2012, 01:36:18 AM »
I agree except I would put it as: "St. Stephen of Great Perm."