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« Reply #453 on: February 09, 2013, 12:11:56 AM » |
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« Reply #457 on: February 09, 2013, 01:38:23 AM » |
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« Reply #468 on: February 09, 2013, 08:47:44 AM » |
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Hahaha. You'd think that, Maria, until you remember that the RCC doesn't really fast.
I have a RCC calendar that describes fasting rules for Lent, and it gives the normal Western fasting method (1 normal-sized meal, and 2 small meals). I wonder how many Catholics do this. I used to try to do it. When I was young, Mom took care of that for me, with fish sticks and spaghetti over and over again. |
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« Reply #471 on: February 09, 2013, 12:30:47 PM » |
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Hahaha. You'd think that, Maria, until you remember that the RCC doesn't really fast. But I have noticed a huge increase in the number of commercials for fast food fish sandwiches lately...ahhh, the joys of living in New Mexico. Enjoy your filet-o-fish sandwiches, Wyatt! What I miss in the Philippines. Almost everywhere the restaurants and fast food places come out with their Lenten menu. Of course being RC, it usually means fish meals. But Orthodox can eat squid, right? I miss grilled squid. |
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Indeed. Salo is vegetarian. No meat in there. How is Salo vegetarian? It is cured pig fat Mike! I have about 20kg of it that has been curing for four months almost. Fat, not meat. No single protein in there. At least how I'm trying to explain to myself JamesR's argumentation. Otherwise it has no sense. It's flesh from an animal, not vegetarian. Like pork rinds. Fat isn't a flesh. I take mike's side it isn't meat it's salo, it's own unique thing. It's not pork rinds either. It's cured back fat or belly fat. Or smoked cured ribs. I currently used really thick fat from a homegrown pig. most pigs in the USA don't grow large enough to have thick back fat. But this pig did. We are talking 4-5 inches thick in some spots. |
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Indeed. Salo is vegetarian. No meat in there. How is Salo vegetarian? It is cured pig fat Mike! I have about 20kg of it that has been curing for four months almost. Fat, not meat. No single protein in there. At least how I'm trying to explain to myself JamesR's argumentation. Otherwise it has no sense. It's flesh from an animal, not vegetarian. Like pork rinds. Fat isn't a flesh. I take mike's side it isn't meat it's salo, it's own unique thing. It's not pork rinds either. It's cured back fat or belly fat. Or smoked cured ribs. I currently used really thick fat from a homegrown pig. most pigs in the USA don't grow large enough to have thick back fat. But this pig did. We are talking 4-5 inches thick in some spots. ...in any event, it isn't vegetarian. |
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Indeed. Salo is vegetarian. No meat in there. How is Salo vegetarian? It is cured pig fat Mike! I have about 20kg of it that has been curing for four months almost. Fat, not meat. No single protein in there. At least how I'm trying to explain to myself JamesR's argumentation. Otherwise it has no sense. It's flesh from an animal, not vegetarian. Like pork rinds. Fat isn't a flesh. I take mike's side it isn't meat it's salo, it's own unique thing. It's not pork rinds either. It's cured back fat or belly fat. Or smoked cured ribs. I currently used really thick fat from a homegrown pig. most pigs in the USA don't grow large enough to have thick back fat. But this pig did. We are talking 4-5 inches thick in some spots. ...in any event, it isn't vegetarian. Ah, the difference between vegetarian and vegan. Vegetarians will eat animal byproducts, like milk/dairy and eggs. Vegans won't eat anything that came from whatever animal. Our fasting requires a mostly vegan diet with very few exceptions. |
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Yes, I did realize at some point that fasting once a week in a 6-week period over a year isn't much. But I guess for some people it is. I think this is one of those cases where legalism just does not make any sense and that fasting should have never been legislated to such extent. |
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Yes, I did realize at some point that fasting once a week in a 6-week period over a year isn't much. But I guess for some people it is. I think this is one of those cases where legalism just does not make any sense and that fasting should have never been legislated to such extent. It is in a town full of Sicilian Catholics who's main Lenten fare consists of spaghetti and fishballs. |
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