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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #405 on: December 06, 2012, 02:43:25 PM »
I remember an Orthodox priest telling me that as long as there are 2 or more people present, there's no reason *not* to celebrate a DL every day if the priest is willing and able to do so, that there's nothing to forbid it.

Great Lent?
Yes, that would be an exception.  And the reason for the Liturgy of the Presanctified Gifts.  Let us know if you can think of other exceptions.
Btw, the Coptic Orthodox do not have that restriction, and IIRC have DL every day during Lent.

Interesting!  I had no idea.  Thanks for that info.  Would I be correct, then, in thinking that if that is the case there's no particular theological or canonical restriction, rather that it is a matter of praxis?
No, there's a canon against it from the Council of Trullo.  But since the Copts weren't there, it doesn't affect them.  I wonder if it affected EO Alexandria, when we still had the Alexandrian rite in common use.
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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #406 on: December 06, 2012, 02:57:06 PM »
I remember an Orthodox priest telling me that as long as there are 2 or more people present, there's no reason *not* to celebrate a DL every day if the priest is willing and able to do so, that there's nothing to forbid it.

Great Lent?
Yes, that would be an exception.  And the reason for the Liturgy of the Presanctified Gifts.  Let us know if you can think of other exceptions.
Btw, the Coptic Orthodox do not have that restriction, and IIRC have DL every day during Lent.

Interesting!  I had no idea.  Thanks for that info.  Would I be correct, then, in thinking that if that is the case there's no particular theological or canonical restriction, rather that it is a matter of praxis?
No, there's a canon against it from the Council of Trullo.  But since the Copts weren't there, it doesn't affect them.  I wonder if it affected EO Alexandria, when we still had the Alexandrian rite in common use.

Do you happen to know which canon?  I looked here http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/basis/trullo.asp but couldn't find it.  I probably just overlooked it.
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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #407 on: February 07, 2013, 03:19:05 PM »
The RCC isn't too attractive to these guys:

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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #408 on: February 07, 2013, 03:21:12 PM »
The RCC isn't too attractive to these guys:



They should also include "Spelling in English" or "Proper use of apostrophe"

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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #409 on: February 07, 2013, 03:50:06 PM »
The RCC isn't too attractive to these guys:



They should also include "Spelling in English" or "Proper use of apostrophe"

And Gramm;ar Nazi's  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #410 on: February 07, 2013, 03:58:32 PM »
The RCC isn't too attractive to these guys:
....

They should also include "Spelling in English" or "Proper use of apostrophe"

And Gramm;ar Nazi's  ;D ;D ;D
Funny. I didn't see Nazis listed. :o
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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #411 on: February 07, 2013, 04:00:34 PM »
The RCC isn't too attractive to these guys:
....

They should also include "Spelling in English" or "Proper use of apostrophe"

And Gramm;ar Nazi's  ;D ;D ;D
Funny. I didn't see Nazis listed. :o

Not specifically, no.  But there appear to be a few synonyms.  Saying any more might bump this into "Politics", so I won't  ;).
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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #412 on: February 07, 2013, 04:08:11 PM »
The RCC isn't too attractive to these guys:


dang, I heart the devil  :-[

Good news to you though, Orthodox didn't make the list!  ;D
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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #413 on: February 07, 2013, 04:09:37 PM »
The RCC isn't too attractive to these guys:



Fintastic! [/thread]

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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #414 on: February 07, 2013, 04:15:23 PM »
What's a "P.K'S?"

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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #415 on: February 07, 2013, 04:17:58 PM »
What's a "P.K'S?"

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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #416 on: February 07, 2013, 04:19:58 PM »
What's a "P.K'S?"

Preacher's (Priest's) Kids

Or these folks are some serious online gamerz from the old dayz:

Player Killers
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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #417 on: February 07, 2013, 04:21:14 PM »
What's a "P.K'S?"

Preacher's (Priest's) Kids

Or these folks are some serious online gamerz from the old dayz:

Player Killers

Or they ain't down with one of the gifts of the Spirit:

Psychokinesis

I'll stop.
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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #418 on: February 07, 2013, 04:22:35 PM »
What's a "P.K'S?"

Preacher's (Priest's) Kids

Or these folks are some serious online gamerz from the old dayz:

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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #419 on: February 07, 2013, 04:28:21 PM »
What's a "P.K'S?"

Preacher's (Priest's) Kids

Or these folks are some serious online gamerz from the old dayz:

Player Killers

Car Communication Enterprise



Whatever it means, let's just say these are some thorough hell fire types rather than the one note wonders like Phelps et al.
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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #420 on: February 07, 2013, 04:36:27 PM »
Through the history of RCC, I know that it is not the true Church of God .But why is it still so big and so attractive?


And how do RCC Christians view Her corrupted history?

It's big and attractive because it's very ecumenical and so many of her members are lapsed and/or attend different Churches, yet still consider themselves "Catholic" in religious censuses even though they don't really practice. This is especially true for Hispanics.
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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #421 on: February 07, 2013, 05:04:41 PM »
One word "bingo"

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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #422 on: February 07, 2013, 05:05:35 PM »

Or these folks are some serious online gamerz from the old dayz:

Player Killers
Oh yes, I remember those, and PKK's. Player killer killers.

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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #423 on: February 07, 2013, 05:08:13 PM »
One word "bingo"

That, plus Roman Catholic worship service is a combination of Protestant sounds (guitar and other instruments), Evangelical zeal (sermons ad libbed), liturgical dance, and other aberrations that suit modernist man.
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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #424 on: February 07, 2013, 05:29:46 PM »
And Gramm;ar Nazi's  ;D ;D ;D

Okay, pointing out that "SPORT'S NUT'S" is wrong isn't being a grammar nazi, it is an act of mercy on humanity  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #425 on: February 07, 2013, 05:56:30 PM »
And Gramm;ar Nazi's  ;D ;D ;D

Okay, pointing out that "SPORT'S NUT'S" is wrong isn't being a grammar nazi, it is an act of mercy on humanity  ;D ;D ;D

Good point, but only in English, though  ;D ;D.
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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #426 on: February 07, 2013, 06:06:40 PM »
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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #427 on: February 08, 2013, 06:27:06 AM »
Even more, I think our policy on this is what the whole Christendom used to have something like hundred years ago. Rome escpecially used to be fairly conservative on this.

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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #428 on: February 08, 2013, 09:49:29 AM »
One word "bingo"

That, plus Roman Catholic worship service is a combination of Protestant sounds (guitar and other instruments), Evangelical zeal (sermons ad libbed), liturgical dance, and other aberrations that suit modernist man.

This doesn't attract anyone to a religion.
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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #429 on: February 08, 2013, 05:45:09 PM »
Okay, pointing out that "SPORT'S NUT'S" is wrong isn't being a grammar nazi, it is an act of mercy on humanity  ;D ;D ;D

Well, I think it should be "SPORT'S NUTS", but I'm not sure what they have against people with that nickname who like to snack.  :(
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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #430 on: February 08, 2013, 06:01:25 PM »
One word "bingo"

That, plus Roman Catholic worship service is a combination of Protestant sounds (guitar and other instruments), Evangelical zeal (sermons ad libbed), liturgical dance, and other aberrations that suit modernist man.

This doesn't attract anyone to a religion.

Sadly, it does.  I have a friend who started attending an Evangelical church and she said she like how they integrated technology into the service.  Like the Pastor can ask people a question and you can text (or tweet, I forgot which) your response which they can display top responses or something later on the big screen.

I don't think I'll be talking about Orthodoxy with her anytime soon.  Or I can say we also have a big (icon) screen  ;D ;D

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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #431 on: February 08, 2013, 08:39:39 PM »
One word "bingo"

That, plus Roman Catholic worship service is a combination of Protestant sounds (guitar and other instruments), Evangelical zeal (sermons ad libbed), liturgical dance, and other aberrations that suit modernist man.

A befitting modernist critique.
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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #432 on: February 08, 2013, 08:44:53 PM »
Well, bingo is fun.  :)

Also, Italian food is really good.  :D
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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #433 on: February 08, 2013, 09:11:10 PM »
Well, bingo is fun.  :)

Also, Italian food is really good.  :D

I've never been to a Roman Catholic Church that served Italian food.  Well, pasta yes, but not authentic Italian style pasta.

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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #434 on: February 08, 2013, 09:12:55 PM »
Well, bingo is fun.  :)

Also, Italian food is really good.  :D

I've never been to a Roman Catholic Church that served Italian food.  Well, pasta yes, but not authentic Italian style pasta.

Sorry to hear that. Try San Gennaro's Day or St. Joseph's Day.
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« Reply #435 on: February 08, 2013, 09:15:43 PM »
Sorry to hear that. Try San Gennaro's Day or St. Joseph's Day.

I guess its because we don't have a lot of Italians here on the West Coast.  RC parishes here are mostly Filipinos.

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« Reply #436 on: February 08, 2013, 09:19:03 PM »
Where I lived in California the RC was mostly Latinos. The best thing is I moved to a place also full of Latinos, so I get to be Orthodox without giving up my tamales, taquitos, mole, etc. It's a win-win! :)

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« Reply #437 on: February 08, 2013, 09:24:48 PM »
Where I lived in California the RC was mostly Latinos. The best thing is I moved to a place also full of Latinos, so I get to be Orthodox without giving up my tamales, taquitos, mole, etc. It's a win-win! :)

One of the things I compain about here in Vancouver is the lack of non-fastfood Mexican restaurants.  Yet when I cross the border into Washington State, there is an abundance of them.

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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #438 on: February 08, 2013, 09:30:53 PM »
Many Orthodox cultures have good food, too.

Could this be a way to reconciliation?...

Instead of a big council with lots of arguments, once Lent is over let's just eat together. And then phone the bishops. They can write a treaty, and this whole thing will be wrapped up before you can say 'baseball season.' And taa-daa! Problem solved. You're welcome.  ;D
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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #439 on: February 08, 2013, 09:32:57 PM »
Orthodox countries and good food? HA! I've NEVER tasted anything good from an Orthodox country; it always seems so vegetarian or just plain odd and foreign to me, whereas Rome's western food is more appealing to me. Then again, it's a matter of perspective.
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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
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« Reply #441 on: February 08, 2013, 09:39:27 PM »
Orthodox countries and good food? HA! I've NEVER tasted anything good from an Orthodox country; it always seems so vegetarian or just plain odd and foreign to me, whereas Rome's western food is more appealing to me. Then again, it's a matter of perspective.

Well, to each his own.  :)

I've had some tasty dishes at Orthodox places. When I was little, we used to go to some of their churches when it was parish festival time. Mmmmm good! :) Well, just my opinion.
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« Reply #442 on: February 08, 2013, 09:52:39 PM »
Orthodox countries and good food? HA! I've NEVER tasted anything good from an Orthodox country; it always seems so vegetarian or just plain odd and foreign to me, whereas Rome's western food is more appealing to me. Then again, it's a matter of perspective.

Given that they only fast/abstain for so many days a year, they have more meat throughout the year.

I did approach an Indian coworker of mine about Indian vegetarian dishes which I will plan to have for Great Lent.  Indian vegetarian dishes are awesome, just because they use a lot of different spices it just is so flavorful.  Last year I did a lot of tofu curry.  This year I want to expand the menu because I was sick and tired of tofu last year by the Feast of the Annunciation.

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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #443 on: February 08, 2013, 09:58:30 PM »
True! I like Indian food, and the fact they have lots of soups and curries and veggie things makes it easier to take care of the Lent requirements. Just have to watch I skip the cheese cubes and go for potatoes. :)
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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #444 on: February 08, 2013, 10:14:22 PM »
Orthodox countries and good food? HA! I've NEVER tasted anything good from an Orthodox country; it always seems so vegetarian or just plain odd and foreign to me, whereas Rome's western food is more appealing to me. Then again, it's a matter of perspective.
Never had any of that food in a Greek parish?

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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #445 on: February 08, 2013, 10:37:21 PM »
Orthodox countries and good food? HA! I've NEVER tasted anything good from an Orthodox country; it always seems so vegetarian or just plain odd and foreign to me, whereas Rome's western food is more appealing to me. Then again, it's a matter of perspective.

Indeed. Salo is vegetarian. No meat in there.

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« Reply #446 on: February 08, 2013, 10:40:28 PM »
Orthodox countries and good food? HA! I've NEVER tasted anything good from an Orthodox country; it always seems so vegetarian or just plain odd and foreign to me, whereas Rome's western food is more appealing to me. Then again, it's a matter of perspective.

Indeed. Salo is vegetarian. No meat in there.

How is Salo vegetarian?  It is cured pig fat Mike!  :P  I have about 20kg of it that has been curing for four months almost.

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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #447 on: February 08, 2013, 10:52:49 PM »
Orthodox countries and good food? HA! I've NEVER tasted anything good from an Orthodox country; it always seems so vegetarian or just plain odd and foreign to me, whereas Rome's western food is more appealing to me. Then again, it's a matter of perspective.

Indeed. Salo is vegetarian. No meat in there.

How is Salo vegetarian?  It is cured pig fat Mike!  :P  I have about 20kg of it that has been curing for four months almost.

Fat, not meat. No single protein in there.

At least how I'm trying to explain to myself JamesR's argumentation. Otherwise it has no sense.
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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #448 on: February 08, 2013, 10:57:28 PM »
Orthodox countries and good food? HA! I've NEVER tasted anything good from an Orthodox country; it always seems so vegetarian or just plain odd and foreign to me, whereas Rome's western food is more appealing to me. Then again, it's a matter of perspective.

Indeed. Salo is vegetarian. No meat in there.

How is Salo vegetarian?  It is cured pig fat Mike!  :P  I have about 20kg of it that has been curing for four months almost.

Fat, not meat. No single protein in there.

At least how I'm trying to explain to myself JamesR's argumentation. Otherwise it has no sense.

It's flesh from an animal, not vegetarian.  Like pork rinds.
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Re: Why is RCC so attractive?
« Reply #449 on: February 08, 2013, 11:13:34 PM »
Orthodox countries and good food? HA! I've NEVER tasted anything good from an Orthodox country; it always seems so vegetarian or just plain odd and foreign to me, whereas Rome's western food is more appealing to me. Then again, it's a matter of perspective.

Indeed. Salo is vegetarian. No meat in there.

How is Salo vegetarian?  It is cured pig fat Mike!  :P  I have about 20kg of it that has been curing for four months almost.

Fat, not meat. No single protein in there.

At least how I'm trying to explain to myself JamesR's argumentation. Otherwise it has no sense.

It's flesh from an animal, not vegetarian.  Like pork rinds.

The forum needs some [joke ] or [irony ] tags.