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Great Lent? Yes, that would be an exception. And the reason for the Liturgy of the Presanctified Gifts. Let us know if you can think of other exceptions. Btw, the Coptic Orthodox do not have that restriction, and IIRC have DL every day during Lent. Interesting! I had no idea. Thanks for that info. Would I be correct, then, in thinking that if that is the case there's no particular theological or canonical restriction, rather that it is a matter of praxis? No, there's a canon against it from the Council of Trullo. But since the Copts weren't there, it doesn't affect them. I wonder if it affected EO Alexandria, when we still had the Alexandrian rite in common use. |
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I remember an Orthodox priest telling me that as long as there are 2 or more people present, there's no reason *not* to celebrate a DL every day if the priest is willing and able to do so, that there's nothing to forbid it.
Great Lent? Yes, that would be an exception. And the reason for the Liturgy of the Presanctified Gifts. Let us know if you can think of other exceptions. Btw, the Coptic Orthodox do not have that restriction, and IIRC have DL every day during Lent. Interesting! I had no idea. Thanks for that info. Would I be correct, then, in thinking that if that is the case there's no particular theological or canonical restriction, rather that it is a matter of praxis? No, there's a canon against it from the Council of Trullo. But since the Copts weren't there, it doesn't affect them. I wonder if it affected EO Alexandria, when we still had the Alexandrian rite in common use. Do you happen to know which canon? I looked here http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/basis/trullo.asp but couldn't find it. I probably just overlooked it. |
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That, plus Roman Catholic worship service is a combination of Protestant sounds (guitar and other instruments), Evangelical zeal (sermons ad libbed), liturgical dance, and other aberrations that suit modernist man. This doesn't attract anyone to a religion. Sadly, it does. I have a friend who started attending an Evangelical church and she said she like how they integrated technology into the service. Like the Pastor can ask people a question and you can text (or tweet, I forgot which) your response which they can display top responses or something later on the big screen. I don't think I'll be talking about Orthodoxy with her anytime soon. Or I can say we also have a big (icon) screen |
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Well, bingo is fun. Also, Italian food is really good. I've never been to a Roman Catholic Church that served Italian food. Well, pasta yes, but not authentic Italian style pasta. Sorry to hear that. Try San Gennaro's Day or St. Joseph's Day. |
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Where I lived in California the RC was mostly Latinos. The best thing is I moved to a place also full of Latinos, so I get to be Orthodox without giving up my tamales, taquitos, mole, etc. It's a win-win! One of the things I compain about here in Vancouver is the lack of non-fastfood Mexican restaurants. Yet when I cross the border into Washington State, there is an abundance of them. |
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Many Orthodox cultures have good food, too. Could this be a way to reconciliation?... Instead of a big council with lots of arguments, once Lent is over let's just eat together. And then phone the bishops. They can write a treaty, and this whole thing will be wrapped up before you can say 'baseball season.' And taa-daa! Problem solved. You're welcome. |
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Given that they only fast/abstain for so many days a year, they have more meat throughout the year. I did approach an Indian coworker of mine about Indian vegetarian dishes which I will plan to have for Great Lent. Indian vegetarian dishes are awesome, just because they use a lot of different spices it just is so flavorful. Last year I did a lot of tofu curry. This year I want to expand the menu because I was sick and tired of tofu last year by the Feast of the Annunciation. |
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Indeed. Salo is vegetarian. No meat in there. How is Salo vegetarian? It is cured pig fat Mike! I have about 20kg of it that has been curing for four months almost. Fat, not meat. No single protein in there. At least how I'm trying to explain to myself JamesR's argumentation. Otherwise it has no sense. |
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formerly known as mikeDespite being a Polish citizen I am not a Pole. Long live Belarus! "It's my constitutional right!" |
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« Reply #448 on: February 08, 2013, 10:57:28 PM » |
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Orthodox countries and good food? HA! I've NEVER tasted anything good from an Orthodox country; it always seems so vegetarian or just plain odd and foreign to me, whereas Rome's western food is more appealing to me. Then again, it's a matter of perspective.
Indeed. Salo is vegetarian. No meat in there. How is Salo vegetarian? It is cured pig fat Mike! I have about 20kg of it that has been curing for four months almost. Fat, not meat. No single protein in there. At least how I'm trying to explain to myself JamesR's argumentation. Otherwise it has no sense. It's flesh from an animal, not vegetarian. Like pork rinds. |
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« Reply #449 on: February 08, 2013, 11:13:34 PM » |
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Orthodox countries and good food? HA! I've NEVER tasted anything good from an Orthodox country; it always seems so vegetarian or just plain odd and foreign to me, whereas Rome's western food is more appealing to me. Then again, it's a matter of perspective.
Indeed. Salo is vegetarian. No meat in there. How is Salo vegetarian? It is cured pig fat Mike! I have about 20kg of it that has been curing for four months almost. Fat, not meat. No single protein in there. At least how I'm trying to explain to myself JamesR's argumentation. Otherwise it has no sense. It's flesh from an animal, not vegetarian. Like pork rinds. The forum needs some [joke ] or [irony ] tags. |
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