Topic: Why is RCC so attractive?

[ialmisry]

I remember an Orthodox priest telling me that as long as there are 2 or more people present, there's no reason *not* to celebrate a DL every day if the priest is willing and able to do so, that there's nothing to forbid it.

Great Lent?

Yes, that would be an exception.  And the reason for the Liturgy of the Presanctified Gifts.  Let us know if you can think of other exceptions.

Btw, the Coptic Orthodox do not have that restriction, and IIRC have DL every day during Lent.

Interesting!  I had no idea.  Thanks for that info.  Would I be correct, then, in thinking that if that is the case there's no particular theological or canonical restriction, rather that it is a matter of praxis?

No, there's a canon against it from the Council of Trullo.  But since the Copts weren't there, it doesn't affect them.  I wonder if it affected EO Alexandria, when we still had the Alexandrian rite in common use.

[J Michael]

I remember an Orthodox priest telling me that as long as there are 2 or more people present, there's no reason *not* to celebrate a DL every day if the priest is willing and able to do so, that there's nothing to forbid it.

Great Lent?

Yes, that would be an exception.  And the reason for the Liturgy of the Presanctified Gifts.  Let us know if you can think of other exceptions.

Btw, the Coptic Orthodox do not have that restriction, and IIRC have DL every day during Lent.

Interesting!  I had no idea.  Thanks for that info.  Would I be correct, then, in thinking that if that is the case there's no particular theological or canonical restriction, rather that it is a matter of praxis?

No, there's a canon against it from the Council of Trullo.  But since the Copts weren't there, it doesn't affect them.  I wonder if it affected EO Alexandria, when we still had the Alexandrian rite in common use.

Do you happen to know which canon?  I looked here http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/basis/trullo.asp but couldn't find it.  I probably just overlooked it.

[Jetavan]

The RCC isn't too attractive to these guys:

[choy]

The RCC isn't too attractive to these guys:

They should also include "Spelling in English" or "Proper use of apostrophe"

[J Michael]

The RCC isn't too attractive to these guys:

They should also include "Spelling in English" or "Proper use of apostrophe"

And Gramm;ar Nazi's 

[Jetavan]

The RCC isn't too attractive to these guys:
....

They should also include "Spelling in English" or "Proper use of apostrophe"

And Gramm;ar Nazi's 

Funny. I didn't see Nazis listed.

[J Michael]

The RCC isn't too attractive to these guys:
....

They should also include "Spelling in English" or "Proper use of apostrophe"

And Gramm;ar Nazi's 

Funny. I didn't see Nazis listed.

Not specifically, no.  But there appear to be a few synonyms.  Saying any more might bump this into "Politics", so I won't  .

[Justin Kolodziej]

The RCC isn't too attractive to these guys:

dang, I heart the devil 

Good news to you though, Orthodox didn't make the list! 

[orthonorm]

The RCC isn't too attractive to these guys:

Fintastic! [/thread]

LOL @ Druggies. Good for them for not following a foolish consistency.

[Nephi]

What's a "P.K'S?"

[orthonorm]

What's a "P.K'S?"

Preacher's (Priest's) Kids

[orthonorm]

What's a "P.K'S?"

Preacher's (Priest's) Kids

Or these folks are some serious online gamerz from the old dayz:

Player Killers

[orthonorm]

What's a "P.K'S?"

Preacher's (Priest's) Kids

Or these folks are some serious online gamerz from the old dayz:

Player Killers

Or they ain't down with one of the gifts of the Spirit:

Psychokinesis

I'll stop.

[mike]

What's a "P.K'S?"

Preacher's (Priest's) Kids

Or these folks are some serious online gamerz from the old dayz:

Player Killers

Car Communication Enterprise

[orthonorm]

What's a "P.K'S?"

Preacher's (Priest's) Kids

Or these folks are some serious online gamerz from the old dayz:

Player Killers

Car Communication Enterprise

Whatever it means, let's just say these are some thorough hell fire types rather than the one note wonders like Phelps et al.

[JamesR]

Through the history of RCC, I know that it is not the true Church of God .But why is it still so big and so attractive?


And how do RCC Christians view Her corrupted history?

It's big and attractive because it's very ecumenical and so many of her members are lapsed and/or attend different Churches, yet still consider themselves "Catholic" in religious censuses even though they don't really practice. This is especially true for Hispanics.

[username!]

One word "bingo"

[Nephi]

Or these folks are some serious online gamerz from the old dayz:

Player Killers

Oh yes, I remember those, and PKK's. Player killer killers.

But player killers do heart the devil.

[Maria]

One word "bingo"

That, plus Roman Catholic worship service is a combination of Protestant sounds (guitar and other instruments), Evangelical zeal (sermons ad libbed), liturgical dance, and other aberrations that suit modernist man.

[choy]

And Gramm;ar Nazi's 

Okay, pointing out that "SPORT'S NUT'S" is wrong isn't being a grammar nazi, it is an act of mercy on humanity 

[J Michael]

And Gramm;ar Nazi's 

Okay, pointing out that "SPORT'S NUT'S" is wrong isn't being a grammar nazi, it is an act of mercy on humanity 

Good point, but only in English, though  .

[Shiny]

suit modernist man.

Brilliant.

[William]

Even more, I think our policy on this is what the whole Christendom used to have something like hundred years ago. Rome escpecially used to be fairly conservative on this.

My Catholic world religions teacher said his father told him to never go into a Protestant church.

[Cyrillic]

One word "bingo"

That, plus Roman Catholic worship service is a combination of Protestant sounds (guitar and other instruments), Evangelical zeal (sermons ad libbed), liturgical dance, and other aberrations that suit modernist man.

This doesn't attract anyone to a religion.

[Peter J]

Okay, pointing out that "SPORT'S NUT'S" is wrong isn't being a grammar nazi, it is an act of mercy on humanity 

Well, I think it should be "SPORT'S NUTS", but I'm not sure what they have against people with that nickname who like to snack. 

[choy]

One word "bingo"

That, plus Roman Catholic worship service is a combination of Protestant sounds (guitar and other instruments), Evangelical zeal (sermons ad libbed), liturgical dance, and other aberrations that suit modernist man.

This doesn't attract anyone to a religion.

Sadly, it does.  I have a friend who started attending an Evangelical church and she said she like how they integrated technology into the service.  Like the Pastor can ask people a question and you can text (or tweet, I forgot which) your response which they can display top responses or something later on the big screen.

I don't think I'll be talking about Orthodoxy with her anytime soon.  Or I can say we also have a big (icon) screen 

[orthonorm]

One word "bingo"

That, plus Roman Catholic worship service is a combination of Protestant sounds (guitar and other instruments), Evangelical zeal (sermons ad libbed), liturgical dance, and other aberrations that suit modernist man.

A befitting modernist critique.

[biro]

Well, bingo is fun. 

Also, Italian food is really good. 

[choy]

Well, bingo is fun. 

Also, Italian food is really good. 

I've never been to a Roman Catholic Church that served Italian food.  Well, pasta yes, but not authentic Italian style pasta.

[biro]

Well, bingo is fun. 

Also, Italian food is really good. 

I've never been to a Roman Catholic Church that served Italian food.  Well, pasta yes, but not authentic Italian style pasta.

Sorry to hear that. Try San Gennaro's Day or St. Joseph's Day.

[choy]

Sorry to hear that. Try San Gennaro's Day or St. Joseph's Day.

I guess its because we don't have a lot of Italians here on the West Coast.  RC parishes here are mostly Filipinos.

[dzheremi]

Where I lived in California the RC was mostly Latinos. The best thing is I moved to a place also full of Latinos, so I get to be Orthodox without giving up my tamales, taquitos, mole, etc. It's a win-win!

[choy]

Where I lived in California the RC was mostly Latinos. The best thing is I moved to a place also full of Latinos, so I get to be Orthodox without giving up my tamales, taquitos, mole, etc. It's a win-win!

One of the things I compain about here in Vancouver is the lack of non-fastfood Mexican restaurants.  Yet when I cross the border into Washington State, there is an abundance of them.

[biro]

Many Orthodox cultures have good food, too.

Could this be a way to reconciliation?...

Instead of a big council with lots of arguments, once Lent is over let's just eat together. And then phone the bishops. They can write a treaty, and this whole thing will be wrapped up before you can say 'baseball season.' And taa-daa! Problem solved. You're welcome. 

[JamesR]

Orthodox countries and good food? HA! I've NEVER tasted anything good from an Orthodox country; it always seems so vegetarian or just plain odd and foreign to me, whereas Rome's western food is more appealing to me. Then again, it's a matter of perspective.

[Justin Kissel]

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[biro]

Orthodox countries and good food? HA! I've NEVER tasted anything good from an Orthodox country; it always seems so vegetarian or just plain odd and foreign to me, whereas Rome's western food is more appealing to me. Then again, it's a matter of perspective.

Well, to each his own. 

I've had some tasty dishes at Orthodox places. When I was little, we used to go to some of their churches when it was parish festival time. Mmmmm good! Well, just my opinion.

[choy]

Orthodox countries and good food? HA! I've NEVER tasted anything good from an Orthodox country; it always seems so vegetarian or just plain odd and foreign to me, whereas Rome's western food is more appealing to me. Then again, it's a matter of perspective.

Given that they only fast/abstain for so many days a year, they have more meat throughout the year.

I did approach an Indian coworker of mine about Indian vegetarian dishes which I will plan to have for Great Lent.  Indian vegetarian dishes are awesome, just because they use a lot of different spices it just is so flavorful.  Last year I did a lot of tofu curry.  This year I want to expand the menu because I was sick and tired of tofu last year by the Feast of the Annunciation.

[biro]

True! I like Indian food, and the fact they have lots of soups and curries and veggie things makes it easier to take care of the Lent requirements. Just have to watch I skip the cheese cubes and go for potatoes.

[Shiny]

Orthodox countries and good food? HA! I've NEVER tasted anything good from an Orthodox country; it always seems so vegetarian or just plain odd and foreign to me, whereas Rome's western food is more appealing to me. Then again, it's a matter of perspective.

Never had any of that food in a Greek parish?

Best green bean dish I have ever had in my life. And I hate green beans, but it tasted delicious.

[mike]

Orthodox countries and good food? HA! I've NEVER tasted anything good from an Orthodox country; it always seems so vegetarian or just plain odd and foreign to me, whereas Rome's western food is more appealing to me. Then again, it's a matter of perspective.

Indeed. Salo is vegetarian. No meat in there.

[username!]

Orthodox countries and good food? HA! I've NEVER tasted anything good from an Orthodox country; it always seems so vegetarian or just plain odd and foreign to me, whereas Rome's western food is more appealing to me. Then again, it's a matter of perspective.

Indeed. Salo is vegetarian. No meat in there.

How is Salo vegetarian?  It is cured pig fat Mike!    I have about 20kg of it that has been curing for four months almost.

[mike]

Orthodox countries and good food? HA! I've NEVER tasted anything good from an Orthodox country; it always seems so vegetarian or just plain odd and foreign to me, whereas Rome's western food is more appealing to me. Then again, it's a matter of perspective.

Indeed. Salo is vegetarian. No meat in there.

How is Salo vegetarian?  It is cured pig fat Mike!    I have about 20kg of it that has been curing for four months almost.

Fat, not meat. No single protein in there.

At least how I'm trying to explain to myself JamesR's argumentation. Otherwise it has no sense.

[Kerdy]

Orthodox countries and good food? HA! I've NEVER tasted anything good from an Orthodox country; it always seems so vegetarian or just plain odd and foreign to me, whereas Rome's western food is more appealing to me. Then again, it's a matter of perspective.

Indeed. Salo is vegetarian. No meat in there.

How is Salo vegetarian?  It is cured pig fat Mike!    I have about 20kg of it that has been curing for four months almost.

Fat, not meat. No single protein in there.

At least how I'm trying to explain to myself JamesR's argumentation. Otherwise it has no sense.

It's flesh from an animal, not vegetarian.  Like pork rinds.

[mike]

Orthodox countries and good food? HA! I've NEVER tasted anything good from an Orthodox country; it always seems so vegetarian or just plain odd and foreign to me, whereas Rome's western food is more appealing to me. Then again, it's a matter of perspective.

Indeed. Salo is vegetarian. No meat in there.

How is Salo vegetarian?  It is cured pig fat Mike!    I have about 20kg of it that has been curing for four months almost.

Fat, not meat. No single protein in there.

At least how I'm trying to explain to myself JamesR's argumentation. Otherwise it has no sense.

It's flesh from an animal, not vegetarian.  Like pork rinds.

The forum needs some [joke ] or [irony ] tags.