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Possible stumbleblock (catechumenate)
« on: November 10, 2012, 10:55:50 AM »
Hi all

Can I ask for some prayers again? I am attending a very small russian-orthodox parish (ROCOR) and we have had some catechumenate classes, but now things has completely stopped. No new reading material for next class (11.30) is avaiable, no one has any information and no one can tell if there will be anymore classes after christmas. No one has any ideas at all about how things will be.

It is hard to not feel a bit like a big question mark right now. Our priest is recovering after having a gallstone and will need surgery. So what happens now, I do not know. I know only that i got a some things to ask The Lord about (and it makes me feel bad, as He has given me far more than i ever have deserved).

In the meantime, reading the books I have, pray (morning and eve) and attending services is all that can be done.
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Re: Possible stumbleblock (catechumenate)
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2012, 11:39:58 AM »
How much more wonderful will communion finally be after all your pacient endurance!!!!!!

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Re: Possible stumbleblock (catechumenate)
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2012, 11:40:42 AM »
Prayers for you, your priest, and other catechumens.


In the meantime, reading the books I have, pray (morning and eve) and attending services is all that can be done.

And being faithful in these matters will be a helpful catechism. Don't despair.

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Re: Possible stumbleblock (catechumenate)
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2012, 02:54:50 PM »
Lord have mercy.

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Re: Possible stumbleblock (catechumenate)
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2012, 03:35:08 PM »
Lord have mercy!

Maybe it's a kind of test given to you by God that you can make sure you want to join the Orthodox Church and be stronger in the faith becasue of these difficult circumstances.
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Re: Possible stumbleblock (catechumenate)
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2012, 04:33:27 PM »
Hi all

Can I ask for some prayers again? I am attending a very small russian-orthodox parish (ROCOR) and we have had some catechumenate classes, but now things has completely stopped. No new reading material for next class (11.30) is avaiable, no one has any information and no one can tell if there will be anymore classes after christmas. No one has any ideas at all about how things will be.

It is hard to not feel a bit like a big question mark right now. Our priest is recovering after having a gallstone and will need surgery. So what happens now, I do not know. I know only that i got a some things to ask The Lord about (and it makes me feel bad, as He has given me far more than i ever have deserved).

In the meantime, reading the books I have, pray (morning and eve) and attending services is all that can be done.

Patience.  I had to wait almost 4 years before being received and even in that time I am told by others that I changed for the better.

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Re: Possible stumbleblock (catechumenate)
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2012, 06:04:26 PM »
There is an online catechism class somewhere. Maybe you could propose that and have someone watch the videos to see if they cover enough?

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Re: Possible stumbleblock (catechumenate)
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2012, 06:23:02 PM »
You answered your own question better than anyone:

"In the meantime, reading the books I have, pray (morning and eve) and attending services is all that can be done."

There will always be obstacles, and you will come out stronger for them.

orthodoxy if full or obstacles, its not for the faint hearted.

Think (read) of its history to get inspiration.

Lord have mercy.

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Re: Possible stumbleblock (catechumenate)
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2012, 06:26:56 PM »
Hi all

Can I ask for some prayers again? I am attending a very small russian-orthodox parish (ROCOR) and we have had some catechumenate classes, but now things has completely stopped. No new reading material for next class (11.30) is avaiable, no one has any information and no one can tell if there will be anymore classes after christmas. No one has any ideas at all about how things will be.

It is hard to not feel a bit like a big question mark right now. Our priest is recovering after having a gallstone and will need surgery. So what happens now, I do not know. I know only that i got a some things to ask The Lord about (and it makes me feel bad, as He has given me far more than i ever have deserved).

In the meantime, reading the books I have, pray (morning and eve) and attending services is all that can be done.

My prayers for your priest and for you.

Having had a few gallstone attacks, I can say that those attacks are quite disabling and leave me feeling like I have been hit with the flu. My priest also said that he had "brain fog and went around in a daze" whenever he had an attack. He feels much better after having had his gallbladder removed.

Keep up with your prayer life. Read the lives of the saints and the appointed readings from the New Testament. I am re-reading the life of St. Seraphim of Sarov who is an awesome saint. He was almost killed by robbers who had left him for dead. St. Seraphim, who was permanently disabled by this attack, forgave them and did not press charges.
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Re: Possible stumbleblock (catechumenate)
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2012, 06:29:28 PM »
Hi all

Can I ask for some prayers again? I am attending a very small russian-orthodox parish (ROCOR) and we have had some catechumenate classes, but now things has completely stopped. No new reading material for next class (11.30) is avaiable, no one has any information and no one can tell if there will be anymore classes after christmas. No one has any ideas at all about how things will be.

It is hard to not feel a bit like a big question mark right now. Our priest is recovering after having a gallstone and will need surgery. So what happens now, I do not know. I know only that i got a some things to ask The Lord about (and it makes me feel bad, as He has given me far more than i ever have deserved).

In the meantime, reading the books I have, pray (morning and eve) and attending services is all that can be done.

I find that the Visual Catechism of the Orthodox Church by Metropolitan Hierotheos Vlachos is like Mary Poppins, practically perfect in every way.  If you can read it and agree with it, as well as read through the Anaphora of St. Basil (and St. JC as well, but St. Basil sums up the whole) and agree with it, dedicate yourself to a life of self-examination, grace-driven personal growth, and regular participation in the Liturgy, Mysteries, and services, then you are ready--provided one more thing.  The one more thing is love of the Lord.  St. Paul says if anyone does not love the Lord, then let him be anathema.  If any of these is lacking, then you need a bit more catechism and may need to go to another parish to get it.  

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Re: Possible stumbleblock (catechumenate)
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2012, 06:32:53 PM »
this is not yet available and is oriental orthodox, not eastern, but it maybe a useful addition to your studies:
http://tasbeha.org/content/community/index.php/topic,13852.0.html
(orthodox online catechism).
may God give u peace and patience and health and wisdom to your priest.

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Re: Possible stumbleblock (catechumenate)
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2012, 07:22:51 PM »
Many thanks for your prayers and good advices. I will bring them with me in heart, mind and sleep.

Can tell that i just ordered a copy of Visual Catechism of the Orthodox Church by Metropolitan Hierotheos Vlachos and soon plan to buy a four book series of the catechism from St Vladimir Seminary Press i NY (USA). Have also signed for the online catechism course as suggested.

Patience is the keyword and i do need some work to be done in that department.

Bless you all for prayers and kind words. :)


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Re: Possible stumbleblock (catechumenate)
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2012, 10:27:13 AM »
Update: as the online classes is not in communion with ROCOR, it is off the list. Now my priest knows that we are waiting for more material to read. :)
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Re: Possible stumbleblock (catechumenate)
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2012, 02:20:54 AM »
Lord have mercy on you both.
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Re: Possible stumbleblock (catechumenate)
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2012, 08:55:01 AM »
If you are not aware of this offering by the American Carpatho-Russian Orthodox Diocese, it has links to a couple of series of lessons. Scroll down to the Archived Classes section.

http://www.acrod.org/ministries/religioused/onlinelearning/onlineclassroommoodle

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