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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #3240 on: June 23, 2017, 08:11:03 AM »
The iconographer is Orthodox.

1. That in itself doesn't make the image an icon suitable for Orthodox veneration. Fr Stamatis Skliris is an Orthodox priest, yet his psychedelic and often blasphemous schlock can be found throughout this thread.

2. It's passable for an Orthodox iconographer to paint an icon of a pre-schism saint for a non-Orthodox patron. It's improper for him to paint an "icon" of someone who his own Church does not, and cannot, venerate as a saint.

1. I didn't say it did.

2.  We know.
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #3241 on: June 23, 2017, 08:15:29 AM »
The iconographer is Orthodox.

1. That in itself doesn't make the image an icon suitable for Orthodox veneration. Fr Stamatis Skliris is an Orthodox priest, yet his psychedelic and often blasphemous schlock can be found throughout this thread.

2. It's passable for an Orthodox iconographer to paint an icon of a pre-schism saint for a non-Orthodox patron. It's improper for him to paint an "icon" of someone who his own Church does not, and cannot, venerate as a saint.

1. I didn't say it did.

2.  We know.

There might be folks reading your post who could regard the religious affiliation of the painter of that image as giving legitimacy to the image from the Orthodox POV. I was setting the record straight.  :police:
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #3242 on: June 23, 2017, 11:40:30 AM »
The iconographer is Orthodox.

1. That in itself doesn't make the image an icon suitable for Orthodox veneration. Fr Stamatis Skliris is an Orthodox priest, yet his psychedelic and often blasphemous schlock can be found throughout this thread.

2. It's passable for an Orthodox iconographer to paint an icon of a pre-schism saint for a non-Orthodox patron. It's improper for him to paint an "icon" of someone who his own Church does not, and cannot, venerate as a saint.

Neither of those points has anything to do with what Fr Lance was responding to. 
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #3243 on: June 23, 2017, 11:46:55 AM »
Orthodox iconographers have to make money in-between church fresco commissions.  Orthodox Americans love things cheap and fast, like our fast food, so let the Catholics commission as many hand-painted icons as possible.  It'll make this thread more fun.
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #3244 on: June 23, 2017, 11:48:35 AM »
The iconographer is Orthodox.

1. That in itself doesn't make the image an icon suitable for Orthodox veneration. Fr Stamatis Skliris is an Orthodox priest, yet his psychedelic and often blasphemous schlock can be found throughout this thread.

2. It's passable for an Orthodox iconographer to paint an icon of a pre-schism saint for a non-Orthodox patron. It's improper for him to paint an "icon" of someone who his own Church does not, and cannot, venerate as a saint.

Neither of those points has anything to do with what Fr Lance was responding to.

Also, Fr. Stamatis Skliris rocks.
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #3245 on: June 26, 2017, 09:09:13 AM »
I think it's schlock beacause of the misconception of the Holy Trinity icon theology:



Well, this one may be considered as a kind of art (probably?):



The rest... maybe they're just strange, no idea... If you a lot of icons ("icons") from one place like this one, it's easy to loose orientantion what's apriopriate and what's not regarding the icons ::)







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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #3246 on: June 27, 2017, 04:44:43 AM »
Whoa, some of these are just head-scratchers, because I don't know what they are going for.

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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #3247 on: June 27, 2017, 07:16:43 AM »
Yeah, none of these are good. Looks like something in an art school freshmen's exhibition. Not well-painted, either. Some folks seem to think you don't actually need to know how to paint to do icons (this shows up in "canonical" icons as well).
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