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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #3240 on: June 23, 2017, 08:11:03 AM »
The iconographer is Orthodox.

1. That in itself doesn't make the image an icon suitable for Orthodox veneration. Fr Stamatis Skliris is an Orthodox priest, yet his psychedelic and often blasphemous schlock can be found throughout this thread.

2. It's passable for an Orthodox iconographer to paint an icon of a pre-schism saint for a non-Orthodox patron. It's improper for him to paint an "icon" of someone who his own Church does not, and cannot, venerate as a saint.

1. I didn't say it did.

2.  We know.
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #3241 on: June 23, 2017, 08:15:29 AM »
The iconographer is Orthodox.

1. That in itself doesn't make the image an icon suitable for Orthodox veneration. Fr Stamatis Skliris is an Orthodox priest, yet his psychedelic and often blasphemous schlock can be found throughout this thread.

2. It's passable for an Orthodox iconographer to paint an icon of a pre-schism saint for a non-Orthodox patron. It's improper for him to paint an "icon" of someone who his own Church does not, and cannot, venerate as a saint.

1. I didn't say it did.

2.  We know.

There might be folks reading your post who could regard the religious affiliation of the painter of that image as giving legitimacy to the image from the Orthodox POV. I was setting the record straight.  :police:
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #3242 on: June 23, 2017, 11:40:30 AM »
The iconographer is Orthodox.

1. That in itself doesn't make the image an icon suitable for Orthodox veneration. Fr Stamatis Skliris is an Orthodox priest, yet his psychedelic and often blasphemous schlock can be found throughout this thread.

2. It's passable for an Orthodox iconographer to paint an icon of a pre-schism saint for a non-Orthodox patron. It's improper for him to paint an "icon" of someone who his own Church does not, and cannot, venerate as a saint.

Neither of those points has anything to do with what Fr Lance was responding to. 
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #3243 on: June 23, 2017, 11:46:55 AM »
Orthodox iconographers have to make money in-between church fresco commissions.  Orthodox Americans love things cheap and fast, like our fast food, so let the Catholics commission as many hand-painted icons as possible.  It'll make this thread more fun.
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #3244 on: June 23, 2017, 11:48:35 AM »
The iconographer is Orthodox.

1. That in itself doesn't make the image an icon suitable for Orthodox veneration. Fr Stamatis Skliris is an Orthodox priest, yet his psychedelic and often blasphemous schlock can be found throughout this thread.

2. It's passable for an Orthodox iconographer to paint an icon of a pre-schism saint for a non-Orthodox patron. It's improper for him to paint an "icon" of someone who his own Church does not, and cannot, venerate as a saint.

Neither of those points has anything to do with what Fr Lance was responding to.

Also, Fr. Stamatis Skliris rocks.
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #3245 on: June 26, 2017, 09:09:13 AM »
I think it's schlock beacause of the misconception of the Holy Trinity icon theology:



Well, this one may be considered as a kind of art (probably?):



The rest... maybe they're just strange, no idea... If you a lot of icons ("icons") from one place like this one, it's easy to loose orientantion what's apriopriate and what's not regarding the icons ::)







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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #3246 on: June 27, 2017, 04:44:43 AM »
Whoa, some of these are just head-scratchers, because I don't know what they are going for.

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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #3247 on: June 27, 2017, 07:16:43 AM »
Yeah, none of these are good. Looks like something in an art school freshmen's exhibition. Not well-painted, either. Some folks seem to think you don't actually need to know how to paint to do icons (this shows up in "canonical" icons as well).
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #3248 on: September 02, 2017, 04:01:06 PM »
So these were not meant to be icons, but nevertheless, they do have an abstract, patriotic meaning in them for Egypt mingled with Coptic symbolism, by Farid Fadel


This first one seems to allude to the suffering of Copts in Egypt mimicking La Pieta while bringing out Egyptian national pride:


This next one mingles ancient pharaonic, Coptic, and Islamic religions on a young woman with Nubian features, most probably implying Egyptian national unity:


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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #3249 on: September 02, 2017, 07:35:03 PM »
Oh, boy. Not easy to look at.
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #3250 on: September 27, 2017, 10:57:09 AM »
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #3251 on: September 27, 2017, 09:50:42 PM »
I wasn't sure if this was schlock or bad taste of a different sort
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #3252 on: September 28, 2017, 05:52:53 PM »
Massive lol. 
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #3254 on: October 05, 2017, 03:16:30 AM »
Kind of surprised that Lucifer isn't blond haired and blue-eyed.

The same guy (TestingPoint) has an icon of Judas holding his own intestines.
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« Reply #3255 on: October 28, 2017, 02:04:05 AM »
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« Reply #3256 on: October 28, 2017, 03:16:55 PM »
Can't have Frodo without Samuel Gamgee!

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« Reply #3257 on: December 08, 2017, 11:11:00 AM »
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« Reply #3258 on: February 04, 2018, 08:27:13 PM »
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« Reply #3260 on: February 28, 2018, 03:20:15 AM »
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« Reply #3261 on: February 28, 2018, 05:48:26 AM »
^^ it's not schlock, but a bit strange. I think it has been posted in the thread "Strange icons".
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #3262 on: March 26, 2018, 11:42:45 PM »





From Saint Gregory of Nyssa Episcopal Church in San Francisco.

Another one:



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« Reply #3263 on: March 27, 2018, 01:14:16 PM »





From Saint Gregory of Nyssa Episcopal Church in San Francisco.

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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #3265 on: April 01, 2018, 06:16:47 PM »
Apparently, someone made a Facebook page only for Roman Catholic imagery in vaporwave style. It's called "Tradwave 伝統的な少年"







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« Reply #3266 on: April 01, 2018, 09:00:37 PM »
As an ironic thing, I have to say I kind of dig it. It's like the reducio ad absurdum of pop Catholic kitsch.

Of course, as usual for the internet, I'm sure somebody is going to take it seriously (and already has). 4Chan has ruined culture.
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« Reply #3267 on: April 01, 2018, 09:06:56 PM »
Waaaaaaait, a second. Rapha, is this an April Fool's gag?

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« Reply #3268 on: April 01, 2018, 09:30:40 PM »
Waaaaaaait, a second. Rapha, is this an April Fool's gag?


Nope, I don't do these.  :laugh:

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« Reply #3269 on: April 29, 2018, 08:43:42 PM »
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« Reply #3270 on: April 29, 2018, 08:45:26 PM »
TBF, that wasn't intended to be an icon.
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« Reply #3271 on: April 29, 2018, 08:47:13 PM »
TBF, that wasn't intended to be an icon.
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« Reply #3272 on: April 29, 2018, 08:54:26 PM »
TBF, that wasn't intended to be an icon.
Neither were the icons of Martin Luther king, yet they're on this thread.

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« Reply #3273 on: April 30, 2018, 07:03:08 PM »
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« Reply #3274 on: May 04, 2018, 04:59:12 PM »
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« Reply #3275 on: May 04, 2018, 05:09:57 PM »
Kind of looks photoshopped to me. The angle seems all weird and it looks like there's artifacting around the halo and the soldier's head. I'm far from an expert, though and a quick reverse search doesn't turn up any possible genuine version.

Not that I would be surprised if it really happened, of course.
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« Reply #3276 on: May 04, 2018, 06:01:21 PM »
That one's been around a while, and it's 'shopped.
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« Reply #3277 on: May 04, 2018, 08:04:00 PM »
It's obviously photoshopped, the guy's face is even kinda cropped.

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« Reply #3278 on: May 04, 2018, 08:45:58 PM »
It makes a great political cartoon though.
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #3279 on: May 04, 2018, 08:57:47 PM »
It makes a great political cartoon though.

If it was more clear that this is not being passed off as a real thing that happened, I'd agree. The line between satire and fake news is too blurry these days.
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #3280 on: May 04, 2018, 09:16:18 PM »
It makes a great political cartoon though.

If it was more clear that this is not being passed off as a real thing that happened, I'd agree. The line between satire and fake news is too blurry these days.
Especially with people like me running around who can't tell what's shopped and what isn't.   :o  :-[
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #3281 on: May 04, 2018, 09:27:52 PM »
It makes a great political cartoon though.

If it was more clear that this is not being passed off as a real thing that happened, I'd agree. The line between satire and fake news is too blurry these days.
Especially with people like me running around who can't tell what's shopped and what isn't.   :o  :-[

I'm not all that good at it, either.
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #3282 on: May 04, 2018, 09:30:59 PM »
But did the guy in the original icon have a suit on? Who was it?

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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #3283 on: May 04, 2018, 10:19:24 PM »
You can see the distortions around the frame where the Russian flag has been put in, around the Rublev Trinity, around the suit, Putin's face and halo. It's all over.
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #3284 on: May 08, 2018, 04:29:54 PM »
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