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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #2700 on: October 05, 2015, 11:05:18 PM »


CREEPY

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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #2701 on: October 07, 2015, 12:20:48 PM »


If there wasn't Holy Trinity depicted in such way, probably it would be acceptable:
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #2702 on: October 07, 2015, 05:05:19 PM »

OI! Not only heretical, but also plan ugly. The eyes are just creepy.

If there wasn't Holy Trinity depicted in such way, probably it would be acceptable:


No, there's more wrong with it. Adam and Eve being on top of the Earth, even if their posture is that of submission and humility, still suggests that they have dominion over the Earth, which is not the case. Also, the depiction of the dead Christ in the top of the image seems to suggest that Christ not in the same body as he was before the Crucifixion, and that he made a new body for himself for the sake of rising from the dead, and both bodies were assumed into heaven. Also notice how none of figures, not even the three figures intended to be the trinity, have a halo. Finally, there are figures at the bottom, that due to the number of wings I think are supposed to seraphim, are not displayed according to the canon, and neither are the 'cherubim' that are around the three trinitarian figures. They should look like this, with the seraphim colored red and the cherubim colored blue.

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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #2703 on: October 07, 2015, 06:59:53 PM »
If there wasn't Holy Trinity depicted in such way, probably it would be acceptable:


No, there's more wrong with it. Adam and Eve being on top of the Earth, even if their posture is that of submission and humility, still suggests that they have dominion over the Earth, which is not the case. Also, the depiction of the dead Christ in the top of the image seems to suggest that Christ not in the same body as he was before the Crucifixion, and that he made a new body for himself for the sake of rising from the dead, and both bodies were assumed into heaven. Also notice how none of figures, not even the three figures intended to be the trinity, have a halo. Finally, there are figures at the bottom, that due to the number of wings I think are supposed to seraphim, are not displayed according to the canon, and neither are the 'cherubim' that are around the three trinitarian figures. They should look like this, with the seraphim colored red and the cherubim colored blue.



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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #2704 on: October 07, 2015, 08:14:17 PM »
If there wasn't Holy Trinity depicted in such way, probably it would be acceptable:


No, there's more wrong with it. Adam and Eve being on top of the Earth, even if their posture is that of submission and humility, still suggests that they have dominion over the Earth, which is not the case. Also, the depiction of the dead Christ in the top of the image seems to suggest that Christ not in the same body as he was before the Crucifixion, and that he made a new body for himself for the sake of rising from the dead, and both bodies were assumed into heaven. Also notice how none of figures, not even the three figures intended to be the trinity, have a halo. Finally, there are figures at the bottom, that due to the number of wings I think are supposed to seraphim, are not displayed according to the canon, and neither are the 'cherubim' that are around the three trinitarian figures. They should look like this, with the seraphim colored red and the cherubim colored blue.



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An 'icon' called "The Divine Liturgy". It developed from this, canonical, icon.



It's commonly found behind the altar if an icon of the Theotokos with the Christ Child is not present.
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #2705 on: October 08, 2015, 03:41:30 PM »
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #2706 on: October 08, 2015, 03:47:49 PM »


Does anyone know if there is a canonical icon called Holy Wisdom? I've only ever seen that one and this one.



You would think they would have some basis from the canon, due to their age.
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« Reply #2707 on: October 08, 2015, 03:56:37 PM »
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #2708 on: October 08, 2015, 03:58:12 PM »


Interesting that it's in Greek and Russian. I've seen ones with elaborate details like that, but they are usually Russian.
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #2709 on: October 08, 2015, 04:04:42 PM »



The 'original icon'...




I think there was a middleman involved, by the name of Robert Lentz.



He added the egg, and then whoever made the one in white gave her a Bible, a red egg, and a blasphemous inscription, "I am the wife and the virgin."
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #2710 on: October 29, 2015, 10:02:23 PM »
Too many good ones to post:

http://www.olgalaxy.com/icons

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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #2711 on: October 29, 2015, 10:35:22 PM »


Must....resist....
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« Reply #2712 on: October 29, 2015, 11:13:07 PM »
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #2713 on: November 04, 2015, 06:28:21 AM »
Too many good ones to post:

http://www.olgalaxy.com/icons
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Something not so schlocky, but it also doesn't suit to the "strange icons" topic; Rosary Mysteries by a RC from Jordan:




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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #2714 on: November 19, 2015, 01:57:22 PM »
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #2715 on: November 19, 2015, 09:21:46 PM »
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #2716 on: November 20, 2015, 01:34:36 PM »
Is... is that Nikola Tesla?

It looks like him, but based on the bottom left hand corner, it might be the inventor of the koulourakia.
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #2717 on: November 21, 2015, 06:47:38 AM »
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« Reply #2718 on: November 23, 2015, 11:53:40 AM »
If there wasn't Holy Trinity depicted in such way, probably it would be acceptable:


No, there's more wrong with it. Adam and Eve being on top of the Earth, even if their posture is that of submission and humility, still suggests that they have dominion over the Earth, which is not the case. Also, the depiction of the dead Christ in the top of the image seems to suggest that Christ not in the same body as he was before the Crucifixion, and that he made a new body for himself for the sake of rising from the dead, and both bodies were assumed into heaven. Also notice how none of figures, not even the three figures intended to be the trinity, have a halo. Finally, there are figures at the bottom, that due to the number of wings I think are supposed to seraphim, are not displayed according to the canon, and neither are the 'cherubim' that are around the three trinitarian figures. They should look like this, with the seraphim colored red and the cherubim colored blue.



What is Dominika's image supposed to be?

An 'icon' called "The Divine Liturgy". It developed from this, canonical, icon.



It's commonly found behind the altar if an icon of the Theotokos with the Christ Child is not present.
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« Reply #2719 on: November 24, 2015, 03:54:00 PM »
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #2720 on: November 24, 2015, 09:30:41 PM »
Too many good ones to post:

http://www.olgalaxy.com/icons

Lol!!

On Sts. Coffee and Chocolate, I'm guessing St. Chocolate is the chubby one?  And who's the deity in the sky?  Abba Mocha?
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« Reply #2721 on: November 26, 2015, 06:52:33 PM »
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« Reply #2722 on: November 26, 2015, 08:28:03 PM »
I have a small icon of that. :)
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #2723 on: December 14, 2015, 02:52:39 PM »
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« Reply #2724 on: December 14, 2015, 03:20:11 PM »
"Love ... is an abyss of illumination, a mountain of fire ... . It is the condition of angels, the progress of eternity" (Climacus).

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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #2725 on: December 14, 2015, 03:33:07 PM »


What all is it supposed to mean?

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« Reply #2726 on: December 14, 2015, 03:37:08 PM »
Okay that did give me chills for a second.
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« Reply #2727 on: December 16, 2015, 12:55:08 PM »


What all is it supposed to mean?

My guess is that the faces are some kind of statement about Christ as Preincarnate Wisdom.
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« Reply #2728 on: December 16, 2015, 01:13:46 PM »
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #2729 on: December 16, 2015, 09:02:09 PM »


What all is it supposed to mean?

My guess is that the faces are some kind of statement about Christ as Preincarnate Wisdom.

I think it's called the All-Seeing Eye, it must be some sort of reference to the omnipotence of God. I want to know why the disc face has four eyes. It's downright horrifying.
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #2730 on: December 16, 2015, 09:04:11 PM »


CREEPY

Canada is creepy.  I have a feeling that's why my ancestors emigrated from there.  Of course, they ended up in New Orleans...

Oh, you're a Cajun?  I had a very good Cajun friend who owned a rather nice restaurant.  I very much like all things "Acadian" except for rhe  music.   :P
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« Reply #2731 on: December 16, 2015, 09:15:14 PM »


What all is it supposed to mean?

My guess is that the faces are some kind of statement about Christ as Preincarnate Wisdom.

I think it's called the All-Seeing Eye, it must be some sort of reference to the omnipotence of God. I want to know why the disc face has four eyes. It's downright horrifying.

I dunno, I kinda like it. It's like a trippy album cover. I mean, it's not an icon, but it is kind of interesting.
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #2732 on: December 16, 2015, 11:49:21 PM »


CREEPY

Canada is creepy.  I have a feeling that's why my ancestors emigrated from there.  Of course, they ended up in New Orleans...

Oh, you're a Cajun?  I had a very good Cajun friend who owned a rather nice restaurant.  I very much like all things "Acadian" except for rhe  music.   :P

Cajuns would never have an icon like this.

They'd have a super blue statue in a grotto in the front yard and a painting of The Virgin's Island at Pierre Part in the living room with little schlocky statues on the kitchen sink and a painting of the Immaculate Heart somewhere in the house.
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #2733 on: December 17, 2015, 01:03:20 PM »


Martyrdom of st. Stephan (maybe it's no schlock, but just strange?...)
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« Reply #2734 on: December 18, 2015, 01:22:25 AM »
Martyrdom of st. Stephan (maybe it's no schlock, but just strange?...)


I'm not understanding the gaping hole underneath St. Stephen.  I also don't get why the people stoning are painted black, like demons.  The painter also really wanted to depict them filled with hate.

Some normal depictions:
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #2735 on: December 18, 2015, 09:14:05 AM »
I wont post it because I don't have an image, and we will probably be burning it soon...

But our parish had a framed icon, painted in an extremely western style, that was of the Archangel Michael holding a sword, with Satan at his feet. The major problem with it, is that it depicts Satan, unmistakably as an African man with the stereotypical broad nose, broad forehead etc...

Nevertheless, we are getting rid of it.
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« Reply #2736 on: December 18, 2015, 09:48:44 AM »


With a few adjustements it could be really nice.
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« Reply #2737 on: December 18, 2015, 09:58:26 AM »
I wont post it because I don't have an image, and we will probably be burning it soon...

But our parish had a framed icon, painted in an extremely western style, that was of the Archangel Michael holding a sword, with Satan at his feet. The major problem with it, is that it depicts Satan, unmistakably as an African man with the stereotypical broad nose, broad forehead etc...

Nevertheless, we are getting rid of it.

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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #2738 on: December 18, 2015, 11:23:17 AM »
I wont post it because I don't have an image, and we will probably be burning it soon...

But our parish had a framed icon, painted in an extremely western style, that was of the Archangel Michael holding a sword, with Satan at his feet. The major problem with it, is that it depicts Satan, unmistakably as an African man with the stereotypical broad nose, broad forehead etc...

Nevertheless, we are getting rid of it.

Lord have mercy.

I would not at all defend such an icon but it is not uncommon to see references to demons as appearing "Ethiopian" in a lot of old Christian literature.
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #2739 on: December 18, 2015, 11:57:16 AM »
I wont post it because I don't have an image, and we will probably be burning it soon...

But our parish had a framed icon, painted in an extremely western style, that was of the Archangel Michael holding a sword, with Satan at his feet. The major problem with it, is that it depicts Satan, unmistakably as an African man with the stereotypical broad nose, broad forehead etc...

Nevertheless, we are getting rid of it.

Lord have mercy.

I would not at all defend such an icon but it is not uncommon to see references to demons as appearing "Ethiopian" in a lot of old Christian literature.

Can an Ethiopian change his skin?

But, this thread has suffered enough derails over the years lol.
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #2740 on: December 18, 2015, 12:08:09 PM »
After 61 pages, I'm amazed that the word icon is still being discussed in the thread!  :P
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #2741 on: December 19, 2015, 03:28:24 PM »
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #2742 on: December 31, 2015, 02:59:39 PM »
It's schlock, but I like it:
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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #2743 on: January 01, 2016, 09:39:57 AM »
Is this a Holy Family icon depicting them as Arabs? Probably historically accurate, but I would call it "good schlock". It's creative, but not for church, definitely.

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Re: Schlock Icons
« Reply #2744 on: January 01, 2016, 05:32:01 PM »
Is this a Holy Family icon depicting them as Arabs? Probably historically accurate, but I would call it "good schlock". It's creative, but not for church, definitely.

Palestinians, precisely.
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