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"But wisdom is justified of all her children." (Luke 7:35, KJV)
« on: September 20, 2016, 03:05:40 PM »
Discuss.

How is "Patristic teaching" justified, but by "her" children? Therefore, who are her children? Something like that. Go!

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Re: "But wisdom is justified of all her children." (Luke 7:35, KJV)
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2016, 08:20:24 PM »
It is from out of all her offspring that Sophia is shown to be just and righteous, is how I parse the Greek. On its face, it would seem to mean that Wisdom can be detected as the right wisdom by the actions of those who claim and follow her. However, in the context the explanation seems more difficult.
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Re: "But wisdom is justified of all her children." (Luke 7:35, KJV)
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2016, 09:57:07 PM »
It is from out of all her offspring that Sophia is shown to be just and righteous, is how I parse the Greek. On its face, it would seem to mean that Wisdom can be detected as the right wisdom by the actions of those who claim and follow her. However, in the context the explanation seems more difficult.

I forget what I meant to say here.
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Re: "But wisdom is justified of all her children." (Luke 7:35, KJV)
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2016, 10:29:54 PM »
It is from out of all her offspring that Sophia is shown to be just and righteous, is how I parse the Greek. On its face, it would seem to mean that Wisdom can be detected as the right wisdom by the actions of those who claim and follow her. However, in the context the explanation seems more difficult.

I think it's a metaphor, dude. (and I say that with no disrespect. because I say so.)
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Re: "But wisdom is justified of all her children." (Luke 7:35, KJV)
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2016, 10:46:12 PM »
How does it apply to Orthodoxy? It's a funny question because perhaps only time will tell.

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Re: "But wisdom is justified of all her children." (Luke 7:35, KJV)
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2016, 10:54:14 PM »
How does it apply to Orthodoxy? It's a funny question because perhaps only time will tell.

Do you actually want an answer, or are you just looking for an opportunity to "I think it's a metaphor, dude" people? 
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Re: "But wisdom is justified of all her children." (Luke 7:35, KJV)
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2016, 11:01:54 PM »
Upon further thought, I think the "all," 'pantwn,' draws attention. It and the context perhaps shift the emphasis something like this: "Wisdom is shown to be equitable from all the kinds ('pantwn') of her children." But I am afraid of forcing a meaning.

It sounds as tho you have your own idea? I'd like to hear it.
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Re: "But wisdom is justified of all her children." (Luke 7:35, KJV)
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2016, 11:03:05 PM »
How does it apply to Orthodoxy? It's a funny question because perhaps only time will tell.

Do you actually want an answer, or are you just looking for an opportunity to "I think it's a metaphor, dude" people?

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Re: "But wisdom is justified of all her children." (Luke 7:35, KJV)
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2016, 02:10:00 PM »
I don't know is it just straight naturalism? like "by all of her fruit"?