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Offline ProdigalSon

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Speaking in Tongues?
« on: December 17, 2004, 12:52:25 PM »
Hi everyone,

I have a question about the Orthodox view of the practice of "speaking in tongues as the Holy Spirit gives the utterance?"

Could anyone tell me what the Othodox take is on this practice/phenomenon?

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Re: Speaking in Tongues?
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2004, 12:54:15 PM »
It was a practice in the early church.
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Re: Speaking in Tongues?
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2004, 01:13:35 PM »
ProdigalSon,
You might start here:

http://www.goarch.org/en/ourfaith/articles/article7112.asp

And I am sure there are other opinions as well. I also think we've discussed this before and you might do a Search and see.

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Re: Speaking in Tongues?
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2004, 03:05:52 PM »
In the book "The Authentic Seal" Archimandrite Aimilianos, Abbot of the Holy Monastery of Simonos Petras, says that "speaking in tongues" is nothing else but the mystical prayer of the heart.

For he who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God, for no one understands him [i.e. no one hears him]; however, in the spirit he speaks mysteries. (1 Cor. 14:2)

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Re: Speaking in Tongues?
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2004, 04:07:39 PM »
Well, I recommend reading Fr. Seraphim Rose's "Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future." He proposes that it might be demonic. There is another book "In Peace let us pray to the Lord" by Fr. Alexis Trader. I do not know that either present themselves as THE position of The Orthodox Church on this matter as it is a relatively new phenomenon.

No matter how much they say otherwise it is not what is recorded as happening on Pentecost.

I grew up in the AOG (I left it when I was 16). After I had left and was able to compare some experiences among Pentecostals with other experiences I had, I became concerned. I remain concerned.

I later went thru the Charismatic renewal in the RC, I saw some of the same stuff like "just open your mouth and start" I never bought that. I think some of talking in tongues is that, some is a type of hysteria, some is authentic prompting of the Most Holy Spirit and some is the prompting of an unholy spirit.  Sorry that is just my opinion. 

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Re: Speaking in Tongues?
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2004, 04:18:54 PM »
Tony,

I didn't know you were born AOG.

And agreed.
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Re: Speaking in Tongues?
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2004, 04:28:03 PM »
Tony,

I didn't know you were born AOG.

And agreed.

Serge,

Yes, born into I suppose is the most accurate expression.  My mom's side is almost all Pentecostal, AOG and COG (Cleveland, TN) both. 

I was never baptised Pentecostal. 

When I was in my twenties I became involved in somethings sort of like "New Age," others a bit different, the only reason I bring it up is the following.  Some of the people "with the Holy Ghost" I saw in some AOG meetings acted much like what I saw in other possessions later.  No message, no apparent purpose other than to give the deity a body for a while.  Very scary.  This short bit does not do justice to the experience but my conscience requires I say something. 

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