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OO/EO Bishops sign deal in Sweden
« on: October 18, 2012, 03:37:04 AM »
So almost a month ago St Ignatius Orthodox Theological Seminar in Sweden arranged a dinner which brought together the Syriac Orthodox Archbishop of Sweden Benjamin Atas, the Coptic Orthodox Bishop of Scandinavia Anba Abakir, and the Romanian Orthodox Bishop of Northern Europe Macarie Dragoi.



It looks like that dinner wasn't just a one-time thing as around two weeks ago at the St Ignatius Orthodox Theological Seminar in Sweden the Syriac Orthodox Archbishop of Sweden Benjamin Atas, the Coptic Orthodox Bishop of Scandinavia Anba Abakir, the Serbian Orthodox Bishop of Scandinavia and Great Britain Dositej, and Romanian Orthodox Bishop of Northern Europe Macarie Dragoi signed a deal for cooperation in the Seminar.

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The cooperation will occur through St. Ignatius Seminar. The seminar covers both the Oriental (Syrian Orthodox, Coptic, Ethiopian, Armenian) and Byzantine (Russian, Greek, Serbian, etc.) Church families and is the first of its kind in the world. The seminar wants, through its teaching, to work for a complete reunion to take place between the two Church families and a way for this is to study theology and the Church Fathers together.



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Re: OO/EO Bishops sign deal in Sweden
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2012, 03:49:11 AM »
Source?

That sounds like a nice idea. :)

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Re: OO/EO Bishops sign deal in Sweden
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2012, 03:54:52 AM »
My source is the chairman of melthodhaye (http://melthodhaye.com/) on Facebook but I found it here in Swedish as well: http://www.sanktignatios.org/2012/10/historisk-dag-da-sankt-ignatios-stiftelse-grundades/
The Tur Abdin Timeline - A timeline of Tur Abdin (Syriac for "the Mountain of the Servants [of God]"), the heartland of the Syriac Orthodox Christians, a hilly region located in upper Mesopotamia, between the Tigris and Euphrates.

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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2012, 04:46:53 AM »
Tack!

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« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2012, 05:03:58 AM »
Varsågod :)
The Tur Abdin Timeline - A timeline of Tur Abdin (Syriac for "the Mountain of the Servants [of God]"), the heartland of the Syriac Orthodox Christians, a hilly region located in upper Mesopotamia, between the Tigris and Euphrates.

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Re: OO/EO Bishops sign deal in Sweden
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2012, 02:50:50 PM »
Interesting...
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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2012, 03:00:12 PM »
Interesting...

Any thoughts? Positive? Negative?

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« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2012, 03:01:50 PM »
Interesting...

Any thoughts? Positive? Negative?
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Re: OO/EO Bishops sign deal in Sweden
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2012, 03:16:32 PM »
Interesting...

Any thoughts? Positive? Negative?
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I can't believe the Serbs agreed to this.  Theological climate in Serbia must be changing way more than I thought
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Re: OO/EO Bishops sign deal in Sweden
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2012, 03:23:12 PM »
I am so happy, I think I just tinkled! ( ecumenistically, of course)
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« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2012, 03:35:47 PM »
I can't believe the Serbs agreed to this.  Theological climate in Serbia must be changing way more than I thought

Maybe they did a secret deal with Syriacs that they agree with this provided that Syriacs convince Armenians to get rid of heretical hats.

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Re: OO/EO Bishops sign deal in Sweden
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2012, 03:38:43 PM »
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Re: OO/EO Bishops sign deal in Sweden
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2012, 03:41:32 PM »
Interesting...

Any thoughts? Positive? Negative?
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I can't believe the Serbs agreed to this.  Theological climate in Serbia must be changing way more than I thought

I really REALLY REALLY want to hear Stashko's take on this.
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Re: OO/EO Bishops sign deal in Sweden
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2012, 09:56:33 PM »
Pretty interesting stuff.

I really REALLY REALLY want to hear Stashko's take on this.
If only Stashko were still posting... ;)

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Re: OO/EO Bishops sign deal in Sweden
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2012, 12:28:46 AM »
Interesting...

Any thoughts? Positive? Negative?
GET THAT BALL ROLLING!

I can't believe the Serbs agreed to this.  Theological climate in Serbia must be changing way more than I thought

I really REALLY REALLY want to hear Stashko's take on this.

Maybe Serbs made a secret deal with other OOs that they agree wit this on condition that other OOs convince Armenians get rid of heretical hats.

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Re: OO/EO Bishops sign deal in Sweden
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2012, 06:24:57 AM »
It seems like I left Sweden too early...

These meetings should have included a representative from the Antiochian Orthodox church, since they are highly active in Sweden specially in Göteborg, where I used to live. I know that Bishop Ignatius is visiting Sweden in Novemeber, maybe HG will be able to meet with them in a further meeting.
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Re: OO/EO Bishops sign deal in Sweden
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2012, 01:16:44 PM »
anba abakir is friends with a (clerical) friend of mine, so i have good second hand information about him.
he is very cool, so i reckon it's a cool thing.
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Re: OO/EO Bishops sign deal in Sweden
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2012, 01:49:20 PM »
I don't see how this can realistically lead to anything except maybe more mutual warm feelings. The theological issues are not resolved.

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Re: OO/EO Bishops sign deal in Sweden
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2012, 02:04:38 PM »
I don't see how this can realistically lead to anything except maybe more mutual warm feelings. The theological issues are not resolved.
Obviously the theological issues are not resolved. See:
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The seminar wants, through its teaching, to work for a complete reunion to take place between the two Church families and a way for this is to study theology and the Church Fathers together.
It furthers inter-church relations on a more local level where it could have a real impact, which is something special dialogue committees cannot accomplish.
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