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I was looking for some guidance. Since I don't seem to be going anywhere from reading the Scriptures myself, I thought that I would turn to patristic guidance for help. That being said, I am looking for a good, full commentary by the Fathers that I could read. I am familiar with St. John Chrysostom, but I don't know if there are any other fathers who would be better to read. Also, should I buy two commentaries? One for the Old Testament and one for the New? I was thinking of reading Origen of Alexandria for the Old Testament, but I am not sure where to find his works. Help? I have a budget of about $120.
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« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2012, 06:16:14 PM » |
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You'd need more than $120 to get a complete commentary on the Bible. Patristic stuff will generally be book by book, not testament by testament. For the 4 Gospels, I would really recommend vol 1. of The Orthodox New Testament, which has a lot of excellent commentary from a wide variety of patristic works. The commentary for volume 2, Acts and the Epistles, is not quite as good. |
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« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2012, 06:31:40 PM » |
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Amazon.com, ECSC and other online sites will carry commentaries. There is a list of patristic commentaries in this thread. |
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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2012, 09:52:35 PM » |
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the Ancient Christian Commentary on Scripture is excellent. You may consider determining which books you most want commentaries on and get those commentaries.
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« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2012, 11:42:21 AM » |
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Ive heard good things about this one, but I dont own it. http://www.chrysostompress.org/catalog_explanation.htmlIm interested in this topic as well. Id love to have some good commentaries as well, but I hate how expensive the books are. |
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« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2012, 11:49:12 AM » |
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I suggest St. Ambrose's Exposition of the Gospel of Luke. the Ancient Christian Commentary on Scripture is excellent. You may consider determining which books you most want commentaries on and get those commentaries.
It's so expansive, even the cd version is 320 dollar  |
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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2012, 12:38:59 PM » |
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I was looking for some guidance. Since I don't seem to be going anywhere from reading the Scriptures myself, I thought that I would turn to patristic guidance for help. That being said, I am looking for a good, full commentary by the Fathers that I could read. I am familiar with St. John Chrysostom, but I don't know if there are any other fathers who would be better to read. Also, should I buy two commentaries? One for the Old Testament and one for the New? I was thinking of reading Origen of Alexandria for the Old Testament, but I am not sure where to find his works. Help? I have a budget of about $120.
Don't do Origen, he's a heretic. If you have an e-reader why not download some of the NPNF-series as well? |
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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2012, 12:42:27 PM » |
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Don't do Origen, he's a heretic.
Much of his scriptural commentary is excellent, though. |
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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2012, 12:43:56 PM » |
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Don't do Origen, he's a heretic.
Much of his scriptural commentary is excellent, though. And rather fragmentary. |
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« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2012, 02:43:08 PM » |
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I was looking for some guidance. Since I don't seem to be going anywhere from reading the Scriptures myself, I thought that I would turn to patristic guidance for help. That being said, I am looking for a good, full commentary by the Fathers that I could read. I am familiar with St. John Chrysostom, but I don't know if there are any other fathers who would be better to read. Also, should I buy two commentaries? One for the Old Testament and one for the New? I was thinking of reading Origen of Alexandria for the Old Testament, but I am not sure where to find his works. Help? I have a budget of about $120.
Don't do Origen, he's a heretic. If you have an e-reader why not download some of the NPNF-series as well? I have an e-reader. What is NPNF? |
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« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2012, 02:47:44 PM » |
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I have an e-reader. What is NPNF?
The Nicene and Post Nicene Fathers series. It's available free from www.ccel.org |
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« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2012, 02:52:51 PM » |
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I was looking for some guidance. Since I don't seem to be going anywhere from reading the Scriptures myself, I thought that I would turn to patristic guidance for help. That being said, I am looking for a good, full commentary by the Fathers that I could read. I am familiar with St. John Chrysostom, but I don't know if there are any other fathers who would be better to read. Also, should I buy two commentaries? One for the Old Testament and one for the New? I was thinking of reading Origen of Alexandria for the Old Testament, but I am not sure where to find his works. Help? I have a budget of about $120.
Don't do Origen, he's a heretic. If you have an e-reader why not download some of the NPNF-series as well? I have an e-reader. What is NPNF? Together with the ANF, 38 (or 37?) volumes of 19th century translations of some of the major works of the church fathers. Free, in pdf format. It's almost the only thing I have on my e-reader. Link. |
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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2012, 07:02:19 PM » |
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I was looking for some guidance. Since I don't seem to be going anywhere from reading the Scriptures myself, I thought that I would turn to patristic guidance for help. That being said, I am looking for a good, full commentary by the Fathers that I could read. I am familiar with St. John Chrysostom, but I don't know if there are any other fathers who would be better to read. Also, should I buy two commentaries? One for the Old Testament and one for the New? I was thinking of reading Origen of Alexandria for the Old Testament, but I am not sure where to find his works. Help? I have a budget of about $120.
Don't do Origen, he's a heretic. If you have an e-reader why not download some of the NPNF-series as well? He is, but his heresies are pretty well contained in only certain of his writings, rather like Tertullian. |
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« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2012, 07:46:07 PM » |
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You can see the most used commentaries, 5 or 6 for free at this bible site. When you look up any verse the commentaries for the verse are at the bottom opf the page. Or you can use just the commentaries tab. http://biblecc.com/ |
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