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Re: Orthodoxy in film...
« Reply #135 on: May 23, 2008, 12:52:59 PM »
Not a movie, but in an episode of Seinfeld George converts to the Latvian Orthodox Church in order to date an Orthodox woman, while Kramer unwittingly seduces a nun. The Church in that episode is portrayed more as naïve than anything else.
I remember that episode.  Kramer accidently seduces the nun because he has, as the Latvian priest says, the Kavorka.  From the Urban online dictionary:

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(Pronounced Kah-vor-kah) The Kavorka is a word which originated from the Latvian Orthodox. It means "the lure of the animal". It is described as a curse, making someone irresistible to anyone of the opposite sex, even attractive to the same sex, as people will be naturally drawn to you. It's a heavy responsibility to have to be imposed with everyone's lusty wants, hence, it's consideration as a curse. People will want to be with you, be like you, be you.

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Re: Orthodoxy in film...
« Reply #136 on: May 23, 2008, 12:55:47 PM »
The Kavorka is a word which originated from the Latvian Orthodox. It means "the lure of the animal".

Oh, I think it originated from the mind of Larry David. Now that's dangerous! :laugh:
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Re: Orthodoxy in film...
« Reply #137 on: May 23, 2008, 12:57:20 PM »
Oh, I think it originated from the mind of Larry David. Now that's dangerous! :laugh:
Probably so.  He's pretty funny.
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Re: Orthodoxy in film...
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Re: Orthodoxy in film...
« Reply #139 on: May 23, 2008, 01:58:16 PM »
Thanks for the information!  I imagine that Hollywood, as a general rule, is fairly ignorant about Orthodoxy.  Then again, they often seem fairly ignorant about Christianity of any type.

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Re: Orthodoxy in film...
« Reply #140 on: May 23, 2008, 03:14:48 PM »
Thanks for the information!  I imagine that Hollywood, as a general rule, is fairly ignorant about Orthodoxy.  Then again, they often seem fairly ignorant about Christianity of any type.
Yeah, on the one hand, it's always kind of exciting to see us on the 'bigscreen', but on the other hand it's usually a big let down.
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Re: Orthodoxy in film...
« Reply #141 on: May 23, 2008, 03:46:15 PM »
I didn't see the movie so I don't know what the context is, but in the trailer for the movie Hitman there is a brief scene where you see orthodox priests vested in phelonion and epitrahelion with their skufya's on.
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Re: Orthodoxy in film...
« Reply #142 on: May 23, 2008, 04:10:25 PM »
"Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors" (also known in the US as "The Wild Horses of Fire"), by Serhiy Paradzhanov, a wonderful Ukrainian film director (died in the early 1990's). The motion picture was released in 1964. The action takes place in a small, poor Ukrainian village lost in the Carpathian mountains, some time in the early or mid-1800s. There are some great scenes shot in the small, but very beautiful wooden village Orthodox church. You can see the clergy in liturgical vestments, censing, icons, lighting of the candles, a choir singing "Most Holy Theotokos, Save Us" etc. All in gorgeous colors, extremely artsy and simltaneously realistic.
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Re: Orthodoxy in film...
« Reply #143 on: May 23, 2008, 07:56:54 PM »
The beginning of a James Bond movie (I think :-\) depicted Orthodoxy--can't remember which one or what was portrayed.

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« Reply #144 on: May 23, 2008, 08:10:35 PM »
The beginning of a James Bond movie (I think :-\) depicted Orthodoxy--can't remember which one or what was portrayed.

"Dracula" has a wedding scene, where Jonathan Harker and Mina get married.
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Re: Orthodoxy in film...
« Reply #145 on: May 23, 2008, 08:42:39 PM »
"Dracula" has a wedding scene, where Jonathan Harker and Mina get married.

There's also the Church scene in the beginning.

Church scenes are in the background of "Dr. Zhivago," and "Nicholas and Alexander" (now SS....)
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Re: Orthodoxy in film...
« Reply #146 on: May 23, 2008, 09:13:06 PM »
There's also the Church scene in the beginning.

Oh, I had forgotten. Years since I saw the film. I must watch it again, sometime.

edited... Oh yes, the flashback scene!
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Re: Orthodoxy in film...
« Reply #147 on: May 23, 2008, 10:50:04 PM »
"Dracula" has a wedding scene, where Jonathan Harker and Mina get married.

the butt of all Mina jokes...I joined this facebook group called "Hi! My name is Mina.  Yes, I'm a guy."  It comes to no surprise that all the male Mina's are Coptic.  But I remember in high school a substitute teacher thought I was bluffing when I said "Here" for the name "Mina."

Sorry for the sidetrack...carry on (maybe there should be a film about that too...hmmm)
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« Reply #148 on: May 23, 2008, 10:53:12 PM »
^^ :laugh:
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Re: Orthodoxy in film...
« Reply #149 on: May 25, 2008, 07:46:58 AM »
I remember seeing a film (on TV) about the rise of anti-christ where a miracle child is born in the east - one of the Greek islands - and received as a messianic figure. The child is baptised in an Orthodox Church and many members of the congregation are healed of their diseases but alas only temporarily. Needless to say the child turns out to be the anti-christ. However the Orthodox people did make the sign of the cross in the eastern fashion - head-heart, right-left.

I can't remember the film's title.
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Re: Orthodoxy in film...
« Reply #150 on: May 25, 2008, 08:14:42 AM »
Yeah, on the one hand, it's always kind of exciting to see us on the 'bigscreen', but on the other hand it's usually a big let down.

I'm of the opinion that it's best that Hollywood remain clueless about Orthodoxy, given the way they treat the Catholic church and other Christian traditions.
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Re: Orthodoxy in movies
« Reply #151 on: May 30, 2008, 07:03:12 AM »
One of the greatest Egyptian actors, Adel Imam (a Muslim) has been preparing a film entitled "Hassan and Marcos" which seems to be aimed at easing Muslim-Coptic tension. I can't make much of it, but it seems to be about an Imam and a Coptic priest who pretend to be Christian and Muslim, respectively, for the sake of protecting their families (against Muslim extremists who oppose the Imam on account of his opposition to extremism, and who oppose the Coptic priest on account of his being, well, a Coptic priest...I think)...or something like that ??? Here is a short trailer of the film with english subtitles...maybe someone else can make more of it than I can:

http://www.matigi.tv/action/viewvideo/210/Hasan_And_Marcos_Teaser/

I will speak to some friends and relatives about this and update this thread with a more accurate description of the film (which is yet to be released).
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Re: Orthodoxy in movies
« Reply #152 on: May 30, 2008, 07:50:30 AM »
I just found this online article from Watani which sheds some clearer light on the matter:

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What happens when terrorist threats are sent to religious figures or clerics, forcing them to flee for their lives?

The subject is the topic of the film Hassan and Morqos—Hassan is a common Muslim name while Morqos is a common Coptic name—directed by Ramy Imam and written by Youssef Maaty, the shooting of which has just begun. The film brings together for the first time two masters of Egyptian cinema, international film star Omar Sharif and top comedian Adel Imam, joined by Libliba, Hanaa’ al-Shorbagui, Youssef Dawoud and a host of Egyptian actors and actresses. The story line attempts to tackle the issue of national unity and the war against terrorism through the meeting of a Christian Theology professor and a Muslim Imam, both of whom are fleeing, under disguise, from the face of terrorist threats.

The original story depicted a priest but, when the filmmakers asked for the opinion of Pope Shenouda III he said it was impossible for an ordained priest to relinquish his priestly attire under any circumstance, so the character was changed into a layman, a theology professor.

The move by the filmmakers to consult the pope aroused controversy, with some criticising it as sanctioning church censorship. But, Maati told Watani, it was unreasonable to make a film on a Christian religious figure, written by a Muslim, directed by a Muslim and depicted by Muslim actors and actresses, without consulting the Church on the credibility of the details involved.

At a recent press conference held in Cairo by the film producer Emad El-Din Adeeb, he said that this was the first time in more than 50 years of Egyptian cinema that such a big production is dedicated to fighting terrorism and calling for unity between Muslims and Christians. “This is what drove me to produce the film,” he said.

On his part Adel Imam said that Pope Shenouda III greatly welcomed the film, while Omar Sharif said the film denounces all perpetrators of sectarian strife, whether Muslim or Christian. He expressed enthusiasm at working with Imam for the first time.

Source: http://www.wataninet.com/article_en.asp?ArticleID=17818
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Re: Orthodoxy in movies
« Reply #153 on: May 30, 2008, 08:02:23 AM »
And `Omar Shareef, too.  Give us more information as you get; it looks interesting.  The trailer isn't too clear on who is really who.  The beginning seems to show that Shareef's and Imaam's original stations are imaam and priest respectively (they are alone and seem to be praying naturally according to their own traditions), and towards the end, we see that Shareef is the Christian Marqus, but I am not convinced that the opening scenes were portraying the two individuals in their disguises.  Perhaps one of the two scenarios takes place in the imagination since Shareef suggests افرض انك كنت مسيحي زيّي

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Re: Orthodoxy in movies
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Re: Orthodoxy in movies
« Reply #156 on: March 27, 2013, 06:26:37 PM »
Here are some very good Russian movies:

The Admiral (about Admiral Kolchack)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Admiral_(film)

Ostrov (The Island) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Island_(2006_film)

The Romanovs: An Imperial Family
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Romanovs:_A_Crowned_Family

Tsar (2009) (probably R rated for extreme violence and cruelty)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_(film)

Andrei Rublev
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrei_Rublev_(film)
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« Reply #157 on: March 27, 2013, 08:26:47 PM »
I once watched Tsar with some really bad subtitles. Pretty good movie.
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« Reply #158 on: March 28, 2013, 07:35:40 PM »
There was a documentary on Tchaikovsky (BBC IIRC) that had a few scenes in and Orthodox church.

Also the Expendables II had a scene that took place in an Orthodox church (although no priests or monks were present).
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Re: Orthodoxy in movies
« Reply #160 on: March 30, 2013, 12:33:54 AM »
The show Friends featured a scene on one episode where a wedding was brewing, and the original minister was AWOL, so the replacement was a Greek Orthodox Priest with a big beard. They portrayed him more as a silly, jolly guy.
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« Reply #161 on: April 28, 2013, 12:13:35 AM »
Then there is one of my favorite "Orthodox" movies: Hitman
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« Reply #162 on: April 29, 2013, 03:34:26 AM »
In the five year engagement there is a scene where a couple chooses among different religious and nonreligious methods of being married...among their options were a Christian and an extreme Christian priest (dressed like an Orthodox priest)...

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