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Make it happen, bro.
EDIT: At the very least you could join a WR parish so you're not too homesick.
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« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2012, 12:15:10 AM » |
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You can even get an icon of St. Leo the great with an excerpt from his vesperal stichera on the scroll, "What shall we call thee, O Holy Father Leo, head of the Orthodox Churches of Christ?" Yes, indeed. No qualms with the papal claims of Leo I.
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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2012, 12:24:22 AM » |
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Let's create a saint like St Josaphat, but St Thomas Aquinas in Orthodox form.
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“Without music, life would be a mistake.”
“The last capitalist we hang shall be the one who sold us the rope.”
"Face the facts of being what you are, for that is what changes what you are."
"We see at once that the words absolute, divine, eternal, and so on do not express what is implied in them.
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« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2012, 12:51:36 AM » |
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Let's create a saint like St Josaphat, but St Thomas Aquinas in Orthodox form.
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« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2012, 12:54:11 AM » |
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Let's create a saint like St Josaphat, but St Thomas Aquinas in Orthodox form.
According to the Western Captivity, isn't that St. Peter Moghila or something? LOL! Frs. John Romanides and Alexander Schmemann are both scowling at you from heaven for your insolence and disbelief. |
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O Master Lord our God...who are wondrous in glory; who keeps his covenant and his mercy to them who love him with all their heart; who has given us redemption...through his only-begotten son, Jesus Christ...the life of everyone, the help of those who flee to him, the hope of those who cry to him.
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« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2012, 01:15:09 AM » |
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« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2012, 10:54:31 AM » |
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« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2012, 11:14:58 AM » |
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Ha!  Well I'm glad to see that you all are thinking about me.  But really? A scholastic Eastern Orthodox Christian? |
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"The only-begotten Son of God, wanting us to be partakers of his divinity, assumed our human nature so that, having become man, he might make men gods." - St. Thomas Aquinas
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« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2012, 11:24:06 AM » |
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« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2012, 11:27:06 AM » |
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But really? A scholastic Eastern Orthodox Christian? You could be a trendsetter. |
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« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2012, 11:46:37 AM » |
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Ha! Well I'm glad to see that you all are thinking about me. But really? A scholastic Eastern Orthodox Christian? I hear Tesla was a smart cookie...... PP |
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« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2012, 12:56:17 PM » |
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I think Papist already *is* orthodox. |
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"Right is right even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it."
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« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2012, 12:59:24 PM » |
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I think Papist already *is* orthodox. Agreed!  |
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« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2012, 01:23:22 PM » |
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« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2012, 01:36:22 PM » |
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« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2012, 01:41:56 PM » |
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I think Papist already *is* orthodox. Agreed! So, "problem" (not that there *is* a problem) solved. |
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« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2012, 01:42:29 PM » |
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I think Papist already *is* orthodox. Agreed! huh? What's not clear? |
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« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2012, 01:55:40 PM » |
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I think Papist already *is* orthodox. Agreed! huh? What's not clear? The orthodox part.......  |
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« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2012, 02:04:13 PM » |
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The Orthodox are catholic. The Catholics are orthodox. And each one will protest such till the end of time.
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« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2012, 02:10:01 PM » |
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The Orthodox are catholic. The Catholics are orthodox. And each one will protest such till the end of time.
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« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2012, 02:17:51 PM » |
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The Orthodox are catholic. The Catholics are orthodox. And each one will protest such till the end of time.
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What's so good about Cincinnati? You like it? You think Cincinnati is cool? I've never heard anyone say, 'I'm going to Cincinnati on vacation.'
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« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2012, 02:25:29 PM » |
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The Orthodox are catholic. The Catholics are orthodox. And each one will protest such till the end of time.
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“Without music, life would be a mistake.”
“The last capitalist we hang shall be the one who sold us the rope.”
"Face the facts of being what you are, for that is what changes what you are."
"We see at once that the words absolute, divine, eternal, and so on do not express what is implied in them.
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« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2012, 02:32:30 PM » |
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The Orthodox are catholic. The Catholics are orthodox. And each one will protest such till the end of time.
You're lucky Isa is out to lunch for 30 days. That explains why it's been so "tame" around here . Not to mention the lack of pretty maps . |
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« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2012, 02:35:47 PM » |
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The Orthodox are catholic. The Catholics are orthodox. And each one will protest such till the end of time.
You're lucky Isa is out to lunch for 30 days. That explains why it's been so "tame" around here . Not to mention the lack of pretty maps .  |
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« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2012, 02:39:15 PM » |
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To be honest, there are quite a few things within the Eastern Orthodox Church that I find beautiful and alluring, but those same things, I believe I can find in the Catholic Church. What is more, there are some doctrines in the Eastern Orthodox Church with which I disagree. I'm not here to fight about those things, as I'm a guest, but these are the reasons why I remain where I am... that and I'm a big 'ol honkin Thomist. |
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The Orthodox are catholic. The Catholics are orthodox. And each one will protest such till the end of time.
You're lucky Isa is out to lunch for 30 days. That explains why it's been so "tame" around here . Not to mention the lack of pretty maps . ROTFL!!  |
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« Reply #26 on: October 02, 2012, 03:57:21 PM » |
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The Orthodox are catholic. The Catholics are orthodox. And each one will protest such till the end of time.
We are also the Church of Christ, and the real witnesses of Jehovah, and the ones with the valid Baptism (so true Baptists), and the ones with the right Method to get to Heaven (Methodists), and the ones with the real Gospel (true Evangelicals). Etc, etc. But insisting on these titles doesn't facilitate discussion. |
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« Reply #27 on: October 02, 2012, 04:09:12 PM » |
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The Orthodox are catholic. The Catholics are orthodox. And each one will protest such till the end of time.
We are also the Church of Christ, and the real witnesses of Jehovah, and the ones with the valid Baptism (so true Baptists), and the ones with the right Method to get to Heaven (Methodists), and the ones with the real Gospel (true Evangelicals). Etc, etc. But insisting on these titles doesn't facilitate discussion. It was a dumb ecumenical gibe, do you jibe? |
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« Reply #28 on: October 02, 2012, 04:11:52 PM » |
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The Orthodox are catholic. The Catholics are orthodox. And each one will protest such till the end of time.
We are also the Church of Christ, and the real witnesses of Jehovah, and the ones with the valid Baptism (so true Baptists), and the ones with the right Method to get to Heaven (Methodists), and the ones with the real Gospel (true Evangelicals). Etc, etc. But insisting on these titles doesn't facilitate discussion. It was a dumb ecumenical gibe, do you jibe? 'Course I jibe. Whatever that means. I was adding to the gibe. Do you jibe? |
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« Reply #29 on: October 02, 2012, 06:16:06 PM » |
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Make it happen, bro.
EDIT: At the very least you could join a WR parish so you're not too homesick.
Which is equivalent to saying that an Eastern Orthodox should (at the very least) convert to Eastern Catholicism. How many do you know who have done that? Not too many I would guess. |
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« Reply #30 on: October 02, 2012, 07:49:09 PM » |
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Make it happen, bro.
EDIT: At the very least you could join a WR parish so you're not too homesick.
The interesting thing is that there is not much of an Eastern Orthodox presence here in Albuquerque. There is lovely Greek Orthodox parish, St. George's, which has had a very positive relationship with the local Byzantine Catholic Parish, Our Lady of Perpetual Help. There is also a small OCA mission, with very few parishoners. We definitely don't have any Western Rite Orthodox parishes. I believe there is Russian Orthodox parish just north of us in Santa Fe. In any case, there are Catholic Churches on just about every corner. |
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« Reply #31 on: October 02, 2012, 07:56:51 PM » |
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Make it happen, bro.
EDIT: At the very least you could join a WR parish so you're not too homesick.
Which is equivalent to saying that an Eastern Orthodox should (at the very least) convert to Eastern Catholicism. How many do you know who have done that? Not too many I would guess. Well get us to believe in the roman pontiff, as you do, and we'll see. |
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“Without music, life would be a mistake.”
“The last capitalist we hang shall be the one who sold us the rope.”
"Face the facts of being what you are, for that is what changes what you are."
"We see at once that the words absolute, divine, eternal, and so on do not express what is implied in them.
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« Reply #33 on: October 02, 2012, 11:37:24 PM » |
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Ha! Well I'm glad to see that you all are thinking about me. But really? A scholastic Eastern Orthodox Christian? Haven't you met Vico over at CAF? |
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« Reply #34 on: October 02, 2012, 11:46:34 PM » |
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The Orthodox are catholic. The Catholics are orthodox. And each one will protest such till the end of time.
You're lucky Isa is out to lunch for 30 days. That explains why it's been so "tame" around here . Not to mention the lack of pretty maps . Thanks, now I've gotta pick up the book...... |
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« Reply #35 on: October 03, 2012, 10:33:50 AM » |
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Ha! Well I'm glad to see that you all are thinking about me. But really? A scholastic Eastern Orthodox Christian? Haven't you met Vico over at CAF? I was banned from CAF for suggesting that Catholics and Easern Orthodox don't agree on everything. |
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« Reply #36 on: October 03, 2012, 11:05:37 AM » |
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I was banned from CAF for suggesting that Catholics and Easern Orthodox don't agree on everything. Vico is supposed to be Eastern Catholic, but any thread he goes into he answers with citations from the Code of Canon Law, CCC, Papal documents, etc. You can't be more legalistic than that, and this is from someone who says he is EC. |
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« Reply #37 on: October 03, 2012, 11:27:57 AM » |
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I was banned from CAF for suggesting that Catholics and Easern Orthodox don't agree on everything. Vico is supposed to be Eastern Catholic, but any thread he goes into he answers with citations from the Code of Canon Law, CCC, Papal documents, etc. You can't be more legalistic than that, and this is from someone who says he is EC. Don't the Eastern Orthodox also have a canon law that they must follow, and don't they cite the Church Fathers regularly? |
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« Reply #38 on: October 03, 2012, 11:33:14 AM » |
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I was banned from CAF for suggesting that Catholics and Easern Orthodox don't agree on everything. Vico is supposed to be Eastern Catholic, but any thread he goes into he answers with citations from the Code of Canon Law, CCC, Papal documents, etc. You can't be more legalistic than that, and this is from someone who says he is EC. Don't the Eastern Orthodox also have a canon law that they must follow, and don't they cite the Church Fathers regularly? Canon Law is interpreted by the discretion of Bishops. It is not a strict legal system. |
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« Reply #39 on: October 03, 2012, 11:36:35 AM » |
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I was banned from CAF for suggesting that Catholics and Easern Orthodox don't agree on everything. Vico is supposed to be Eastern Catholic, but any thread he goes into he answers with citations from the Code of Canon Law, CCC, Papal documents, etc. You can't be more legalistic than that, and this is from someone who says he is EC. Vico's posts are always so horribly boring. |
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« Reply #40 on: October 03, 2012, 12:53:03 PM » |
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The Orthodox are catholic. The Catholics are orthodox. And each one will protest such till the end of time.
We are also the Church of Christ, and the real witnesses of Jehovah, and the ones with the valid Baptism (so true Baptists), and the ones with the right Method to get to Heaven (Methodists), and the ones with the real Gospel (true Evangelicals). Etc, etc. But insisting on these titles doesn't facilitate discussion. Jehovah is a total misnomer. |
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« Reply #41 on: October 03, 2012, 01:09:14 PM » |
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Jehovah is a total misnomer.
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« Reply #42 on: October 03, 2012, 01:16:04 PM » |
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Vico's posts are always so horribly boring.
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« Reply #43 on: October 03, 2012, 01:27:55 PM » |
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Don't the Eastern Orthodox also have a canon law that they must follow, and don't they cite the Church Fathers regularly?
The purpose of Canon Laws have become different between East and West. Sadly, every internet Roman Catholic thinks he is a Canon Law expert and can use it to win internet debates or admonish someone else. |
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Don't the Eastern Orthodox also have a canon law that they must follow, and don't they cite the Church Fathers regularly?
The purpose of Canon Laws have become different between East and West. Sadly, every internet Roman Catholic thinks he is a Canon Law expert and can use it to win internet debates or admonish someone else. I won't even touch the stuff. For a person to really use canon law in a debate, that person has to be pretty well acquainted with the law. |
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