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« on: September 28, 2012, 03:44:06 PM »

Do orthodox christians honor St. Anne( mother of Virgin Mary) ?

If yes, why do orthodox christians honor St. Anne( Mother of Virgin Mary)? What has she contributed to the Kingdom of God?
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« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2012, 03:52:38 PM »

We not only honor St. Anna, the Virgin's mother, but we also honor St. Joachim, her father.

They are Christ's grandparents.





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« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2012, 04:02:17 PM »

We not only honor St. Anna, the Virgin's mother, but we also honor St. Joachim, her father.

They are Christ's grandparents.







What have they contributed to the Kingdom of God? What has they done that deserve the christians to follow and imitate??
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« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2012, 04:08:39 PM »

What have they contributed to the Kingdom of God? What has they done that deserve the christians to follow and imitate??

Brought up Mary so properly that she could become the Mother of God (and they became God's grandparents). It can be assumed they are models of Christian (grand)parenthood.
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« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2012, 04:15:50 PM »

Well, even if they weren't the Grandparents....these were two very devout and faithful individuals who never doubted God, never complained about him, but, were steadfast in their belief and trust in God.

The two were married for 50 years and were not able to conceive a child.  In those days a childless couple was looked down upon, as if they were displeasing to God and therefore, barren.  Both must have endured much spiritual torture, as well as outright taunting....and yet, they never wavered in their belief and devotion to God.

Both prayed daily that God should grant them a child...even well in to their old age.

When the angel of the Lord informed them that they would parent a child, they didn't even know if were to be a boy or a girl, but, they promised to bring this child as a gift to the Lord, to serve in the Temple.  

Imagine....your whole life you've wanted a baby.  People have avoided you, ridiculed you, humiliated you because you were barren.  All of a sudden you have a child, in your old age, when most women can no longer bare children....and out of your great love for God, you willingly give this child away to serve Him.  What a sacrifice that must have been.

God found these two married people worthy to be the parents of the Mother of God.

Why wouldn't you honor them?

If only we had an ounce of their faith, their steadfastness, humility and belief.

Lord, have mercy!

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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2012, 04:13:03 AM »

Well, even if they weren't the Grandparents....these were two very devout and faithful individuals who never doubted God, never complained about him, but, were steadfast in their belief and trust in God.

The two were married for 50 years and were not able to conceive a child.  In those days a childless couple was looked down upon, as if they were displeasing to God and therefore, barren.  Both must have endured much spiritual torture, as well as outright taunting....and yet, they never wavered in their belief and devotion to God.

Both prayed daily that God should grant them a child...even well in to their old age.

When the angel of the Lord informed them that they would parent a child, they didn't even know if were to be a boy or a girl, but, they promised to bring this child as a gift to the Lord, to serve in the Temple.  

Imagine....your whole life you've wanted a baby.  People have avoided you, ridiculed you, humiliated you because you were barren.  All of a sudden you have a child, in your old age, when most women can no longer bare children....and out of your great love for God, you willingly give this child away to serve Him.  What a sacrifice that must have been.

God found these two married people worthy to be the parents of the Mother of God.

Why wouldn't you honor them?

If only we had an ounce of their faith, their steadfastness, humility and belief.

Lord, have mercy!



Where does this story come from?

Can we find this story in any  historical document?
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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2012, 05:29:42 AM »

Some catholic christians say that Virgin Mary is the Jesus' mother. Thus, Intercession to Virgin Mary is more poweful and effective than praying directly to Jesus.  And St Anne is the mother of Jesus' Mother. Intercession to St Anne is even more powerfull and effective than to Virgin Mary.

 Do orthodox christians agree with this?
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« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2012, 06:28:52 AM »

New stuff I haven't learned yet!  I like when this happens!
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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2012, 06:51:24 AM »

Well, even if they weren't the Grandparents....these were two very devout and faithful individuals who never doubted God, never complained about him, but, were steadfast in their belief and trust in God.

The two were married for 50 years and were not able to conceive a child.  In those days a childless couple was looked down upon, as if they were displeasing to God and therefore, barren.  Both must have endured much spiritual torture, as well as outright taunting....and yet, they never wavered in their belief and devotion to God.

Both prayed daily that God should grant them a child...even well in to their old age.

When the angel of the Lord informed them that they would parent a child, they didn't even know if were to be a boy or a girl, but, they promised to bring this child as a gift to the Lord, to serve in the Temple.  

Imagine....your whole life you've wanted a baby.  People have avoided you, ridiculed you, humiliated you because you were barren.  All of a sudden you have a child, in your old age, when most women can no longer bare children....and out of your great love for God, you willingly give this child away to serve Him.  What a sacrifice that must have been.

God found these two married people worthy to be the parents of the Mother of God.

Why wouldn't you honor them?

If only we had an ounce of their faith, their steadfastness, humility and belief.

Lord, have mercy!



Where does this story come from?

Can we find this story in any  historical document?

The "story" is an absolute part of the teaching of the Holy Orthodox Church.  I'm sure it is founded in writings of the early Church Fathers. The "Presentation of the Mother of God to the Temple," is among the "12 Great Feasts" of the Orthodox Church, which commemorates Sts. Joachim and Anna's fulfillment of their promise to God, if He would honor them with a child.

"...the holy righteous ancestors of God Joachim and Anna..." are commemorated during every Divine Liturgy, the chief Eucharistic Service of the Orthodox Church, during the Dismissal.



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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2012, 06:57:01 AM »

Some catholic christians say that Virgin Mary is the Jesus' mother. Thus, Intercession to Virgin Mary is more poweful and effective than praying directly to Jesus.  And St Anne is the mother of Jesus' Mother. Intercession to St Anne is even more powerfull and effective than to Virgin Mary.

 Do orthodox christians agree with this?

No, the Orthodox Church does not rank the "power" and "effectiveness" of intercessors.  An Orthodox Christian may appeal to Sts. Joachim and Anna; Mary, the Mother of God, the "Theotokos," who is considered to be "above all saints;" or any saints in support of their prayers to our Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ.
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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2012, 07:18:20 AM »

Do orthodox christians honor St. Anne( mother of Virgin Mary) ?

If yes, why do orthodox christians honor St. Anne( Mother of Virgin Mary)? What has she contributed to the Kingdom of God?

Sts. Joachim and Anna "contributed" "The One Who is Wider than the Heavens,"* as "She contained the Uncontainable One,"* our "Mediatrix"* who is our connection between Heaven and Earth, one reason why she is typically depicted in an Orthodox Church in the apse of the East wall of the Sanctuary.

The Mother of God is depicted in iconography with a blue inner garment symbolizing her Earthly nature, under a red cape outer garment, symbolizing the royal nature she took on by accepting her calling to bear the Son of God.

Dispite her humanity, she is considered "spotless" and "without sin."


*From the ancient hymnology of the Orthodox Church
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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2012, 07:43:57 AM »

Is there a recommended publishing where someone could study a little more into this?  It's new to me.
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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2012, 08:18:34 AM »

Some catholic christians say that Virgin Mary is the Jesus' mother. Thus, Intercession to Virgin Mary is more poweful and effective than praying directly to Jesus.  And St Anne is the mother of Jesus' Mother. Intercession to St Anne is even more powerfull and effective than to Virgin Mary.

 Do orthodox christians agree with this?

No. There is absolutely nothing wrong with praying to St Anne, she is a good and powerful intercessor. But, Orthodoxy teaches that the Virgin is honored above all saints and even the angels, because she conceived and bore and nurtured the Son of God.
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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2012, 08:55:44 AM »


Where does this story come from?

Can we find this story in any  historical document?
Have you read The Protoevangelium of James? As a written document, it is commonly dated in the mid-second century. Undoubtedly it was in oral tradition before that.
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Where does this story come from?

Can we find this story in any  historical document?
Have you read The Protoevangelium of James? As a written document, it is commonly dated in the mid-second century. Undoubtedly it was in oral tradition before that.

And the Protoevangelion also informs and underpins a great deal of the Orthodox hymnography and iconography concerning the Mother of God and her feasts.
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