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« on: September 26, 2012, 11:03:04 PM »

Has anyone heard of this teaching? I heard from a guy that the clouds are made of God. Is this Orthodox?
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« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2012, 11:05:46 PM »

Has anyone heard of this teaching? I heard from a guy that the clouds are made of God. Is this Orthodox?

I was eating a nice juicy pear and then I spat it all over myself reading this. Thanks Alveus.
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« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2012, 11:10:13 PM »


I was eating a nice juicy pear and then I spat it all over myself reading this. Thanks Alveus.

Ewwww. TMI.  Shocked laugh laugh
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« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2012, 11:12:39 PM »

Has anyone heard of this teaching? I heard from a guy that the clouds are made of God. Is this Orthodox?

Definitely not Orthodox teaching. What, God is made of water vapor and a bit of dirt? Where did this guy get this from?
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« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2012, 11:13:03 PM »

Has anyone heard of this teaching? I heard from a guy that the clouds are made of God. Is this Orthodox?

No. And heck no.
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« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2012, 11:14:35 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2012, 11:18:06 PM »



'Shopped, I'm sure.
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« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2012, 11:19:47 PM »

You wouldn't speak such a thing if you only had the faith of a tomato seed...
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« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2012, 11:21:31 PM »

Let's stick to the OP, guys.
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« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2012, 11:23:18 PM »

Let's stick to the OP, guys.

To be honest I thought the OP was a joke...  someone actually said that?  Well, were they perhaps confused as to what the idea of God being ominpresent means?
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« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2012, 11:24:46 PM »

"The clouds are, verily, made of God." - Saint Cumulo of Nimbus
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« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2012, 11:27:12 PM »

"The clouds are, verily, made of God." - Saint Cumulo of Nimbus

You got his name wrong: It's St Nimbus of Cumulo, a tiny village in the Sicilian wilderness. He's a pre-schism saint.  Wink
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« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2012, 11:31:42 PM »

Yes, this is true. It's called Cloud Theology. Sort of like Cloud Computing for Seminary grads.
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« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2012, 05:43:56 PM »

Has anyone heard of this teaching? I heard from a guy that the clouds are made of God. Is this Orthodox?

I'm really puzzled, Alveus. Really, truly puzzled.

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« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2012, 06:39:31 PM »

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Perhaps ialmisry can contribute a pertinent map?

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« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2012, 06:55:34 PM »

Everybody knows the angels make clouds out of candy.
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« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2012, 07:01:24 PM »

Has anyone heard of this teaching? I heard from a guy that the clouds are made of God.

"And there was a cloud that overshadowed them: and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him."

"For throughout all their journeys, the cloud of the LORD was on the tabernacle by day, and there was fire in it by night, in the sight of all the house of Israel."
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« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2012, 07:13:15 PM »

It appears that the controversy over the nature of clouds was a side issue during the great Palamite debates about created vs. uncreated grace. The matter was overshadowed by the more pressing questions and was never resolved; to this day, nubes ex deus remains a viable theologoumenon.
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It appears that the controversy over the nature of clouds was a side issue during the great Palamite debates about created vs. uncreated grace. The matter was overshadowed by the more pressing questions and was never resolved; to this day, nubes ex deus remains a viable theologoumenon.
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« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2013, 03:17:09 AM »

Indeed.
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« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2013, 08:12:39 AM »

Has anyone heard of this teaching? I heard from a guy that the clouds are made of God. Is this Orthodox?

Mr. A Guy is well known in Orthodox circles.  Actually, he is well known in all circles as he is quoted often along with Mr. They Say.
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« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2013, 09:36:45 AM »

Bows and flows of angel hair
And ice cream castles in the air
And feather canyons everywhere
I've looked at clouds that way...
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« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2013, 10:24:23 AM »

There are created and uncreated clouds:

Exodus 13:21, 14:19, 16:10, 19:9, 20:21, 24:16, 33:9, 34:5, 40:34; Leviticus 16:2; Numbers 10:34, 11:25; Deuteronomy 5:22, 31:15; 1/3 Kings 8:10, 18:44; Job 22:14; 37:11-16; Psalms 96:2, 98:7, 103:3, 147:8; Isaiah 19:1; Jeremiah 10:3; 51:16; Daniel 7:13; Matthew 17:5, 24:30; Mark 9:7; Luke 9:34; Acts 1:9; Hebrews 12:1; Revelation 1:7, 10:1, 14:14. 
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« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2013, 11:07:34 AM »

Has anyone heard of this teaching? I heard from a guy that the clouds are made of God. Is this Orthodox?

No, not according to Science.
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« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2013, 01:37:21 PM »

Silly theology.  Clouds are not God.  They're just merely the dust of His feet  Wink
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« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2013, 01:58:15 PM »

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Mr. A Guy is well known in Orthodox circles.  Actually, he is well known in all circles as he is quoted often along with Mr. They Say.

I've got that guy's book!
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« Reply #26 on: December 02, 2013, 02:06:24 PM »

Has anyone heard of this teaching? I heard from a guy that the clouds are made of God. Is this Orthodox?

Mr. A Guy is well known in Orthodox circles.  Actually, he is well known in all circles as he is quoted often along with Mr. They Say.

I've got that guy's book!

Those guys are always being quoted at our annual parish meetings it seems... Ms. Someone Said is usually there as well. Wink
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« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2013, 02:20:59 PM »

Has anyone heard of this teaching? I heard from a guy that the clouds are made of God. Is this Orthodox?

Mr. A Guy is well known in Orthodox circles.  Actually, he is well known in all circles as he is quoted often along with Mr. They Say.

I've got that guy's book!

That's Doctor That Guy to us lesser folk.  He received a PhD in Sociology with a minor in Liberation Theology.  He knows what he's talking about.
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« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2013, 09:43:39 PM »

Has anyone heard of this teaching? I heard from a guy that the clouds are made of God. Is this Orthodox?

Clouds are made of water vapor. If you worship water, I suppose one could be justified making that argument. IIRC, the Syrian Bardaisan made taught that God was water. St. Ephraim the Syrian quipped that Bardaisan had water where his brains ought to be.
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« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2013, 09:46:25 PM »

Silly theology.  Clouds are not God.  They're just merely the dust of His feet  Wink

That makes them close to humanity, since all we are is dust in the wind. Dust in the wind...
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« Reply #31 on: December 03, 2013, 11:56:40 PM »

We are all made of stars.
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« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2013, 01:33:52 AM »

I refer our vexed audience to the 14th century work, The Cloud of Unknowing.
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