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Clouds are Made of God?
« on: September 26, 2012, 11:03:04 PM »
Has anyone heard of this teaching? I heard from a guy that the clouds are made of God. Is this Orthodox?

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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2012, 11:05:46 PM »
Has anyone heard of this teaching? I heard from a guy that the clouds are made of God. Is this Orthodox?

I was eating a nice juicy pear and then I spat it all over myself reading this. Thanks Alveus.
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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2012, 11:10:13 PM »

I was eating a nice juicy pear and then I spat it all over myself reading this. Thanks Alveus.

Ewwww. TMI.  :o :laugh: :laugh:
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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2012, 11:12:39 PM »
Has anyone heard of this teaching? I heard from a guy that the clouds are made of God. Is this Orthodox?

Definitely not Orthodox teaching. What, God is made of water vapor and a bit of dirt? Where did this guy get this from?
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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2012, 11:13:03 PM »
Has anyone heard of this teaching? I heard from a guy that the clouds are made of God. Is this Orthodox?

No. And heck no.
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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
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« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2012, 11:18:06 PM »
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« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2012, 11:19:47 PM »
You wouldn't speak such a thing if you only had the faith of a tomato seed...

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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2012, 11:21:31 PM »
Let's stick to the OP, guys.

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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2012, 11:23:18 PM »
Let's stick to the OP, guys.

To be honest I thought the OP was a joke...  someone actually said that?  Well, were they perhaps confused as to what the idea of God being ominpresent means?

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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2012, 11:24:46 PM »
"The clouds are, verily, made of God." - Saint Cumulo of Nimbus
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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2012, 11:27:12 PM »
"The clouds are, verily, made of God." - Saint Cumulo of Nimbus

You got his name wrong: It's St Nimbus of Cumulo, a tiny village in the Sicilian wilderness. He's a pre-schism saint.  ;)
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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2012, 11:31:42 PM »
Yes, this is true. It's called Cloud Theology. Sort of like Cloud Computing for Seminary grads.
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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2012, 05:43:56 PM »
Has anyone heard of this teaching? I heard from a guy that the clouds are made of God. Is this Orthodox?

I'm really puzzled, Alveus. Really, truly puzzled.

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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2012, 06:39:31 PM »
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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2012, 06:55:34 PM »
Everybody knows the angels make clouds out of candy.
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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2012, 07:01:24 PM »
Has anyone heard of this teaching? I heard from a guy that the clouds are made of God.

"And there was a cloud that overshadowed them: and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him."

"For throughout all their journeys, the cloud of the LORD was on the tabernacle by day, and there was fire in it by night, in the sight of all the house of Israel."
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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2012, 07:13:15 PM »
It appears that the controversy over the nature of clouds was a side issue during the great Palamite debates about created vs. uncreated grace. The matter was overshadowed by the more pressing questions and was never resolved; to this day, nubes ex deus remains a viable theologoumenon.
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« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2012, 07:51:06 PM »
It appears that the controversy over the nature of clouds was a side issue during the great Palamite debates about created vs. uncreated grace. The matter was overshadowed by the more pressing questions and was never resolved; to this day, nubes ex deus remains a viable theologoumenon.
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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2013, 03:17:09 AM »
Indeed.
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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2013, 08:12:39 AM »
Has anyone heard of this teaching? I heard from a guy that the clouds are made of God. Is this Orthodox?

Mr. A Guy is well known in Orthodox circles.  Actually, he is well known in all circles as he is quoted often along with Mr. They Say.
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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2013, 09:36:45 AM »
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I've looked at clouds that way...
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« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2013, 10:24:23 AM »
There are created and uncreated clouds:

Exodus 13:21, 14:19, 16:10, 19:9, 20:21, 24:16, 33:9, 34:5, 40:34; Leviticus 16:2; Numbers 10:34, 11:25; Deuteronomy 5:22, 31:15; 1/3 Kings 8:10, 18:44; Job 22:14; 37:11-16; Psalms 96:2, 98:7, 103:3, 147:8; Isaiah 19:1; Jeremiah 10:3; 51:16; Daniel 7:13; Matthew 17:5, 24:30; Mark 9:7; Luke 9:34; Acts 1:9; Hebrews 12:1; Revelation 1:7, 10:1, 14:14. 

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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2013, 11:07:34 AM »
Has anyone heard of this teaching? I heard from a guy that the clouds are made of God. Is this Orthodox?

No, not according to Science.
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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2013, 01:37:21 PM »
Silly theology.  Clouds are not God.  They're just merely the dust of His feet  ;)
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« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2013, 01:58:15 PM »
Has anyone heard of this teaching? I heard from a guy that the clouds are made of God. Is this Orthodox?

Mr. A Guy is well known in Orthodox circles.  Actually, he is well known in all circles as he is quoted often along with Mr. They Say.

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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
« Reply #26 on: December 02, 2013, 02:06:24 PM »
Has anyone heard of this teaching? I heard from a guy that the clouds are made of God. Is this Orthodox?

Mr. A Guy is well known in Orthodox circles.  Actually, he is well known in all circles as he is quoted often along with Mr. They Say.

I've got that guy's book!

Those guys are always being quoted at our annual parish meetings it seems... Ms. Someone Said is usually there as well. ;)
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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2013, 02:20:59 PM »
Has anyone heard of this teaching? I heard from a guy that the clouds are made of God. Is this Orthodox?

Mr. A Guy is well known in Orthodox circles.  Actually, he is well known in all circles as he is quoted often along with Mr. They Say.

I've got that guy's book!

That's Doctor That Guy to us lesser folk.  He received a PhD in Sociology with a minor in Liberation Theology.  He knows what he's talking about.
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« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2013, 01:10:25 AM »
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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2013, 09:43:39 PM »
Has anyone heard of this teaching? I heard from a guy that the clouds are made of God. Is this Orthodox?

Clouds are made of water vapor. If you worship water, I suppose one could be justified making that argument. IIRC, the Syrian Bardaisan made taught that God was water. St. Ephraim the Syrian quipped that Bardaisan had water where his brains ought to be.
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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2013, 09:46:25 PM »
Silly theology.  Clouds are not God.  They're just merely the dust of His feet  ;)

That makes them close to humanity, since all we are is dust in the wind. Dust in the wind...
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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
« Reply #31 on: December 03, 2013, 11:56:40 PM »
We are all made of stars.
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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2013, 01:33:52 AM »
I refer our vexed audience to the 14th century work, The Cloud of Unknowing.

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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
« Reply #33 on: August 27, 2015, 08:47:09 PM »
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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
« Reply #34 on: September 23, 2015, 12:54:11 PM »
On further investigation, it seems the idea cited in the OP was voiced by Abp Petrosian.
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“A goose to hatch the Crystal Egg after an Eagle had half-hatched it! Aye, aye, to be sure, that’s right,” said the Old Woman of Beare. “And now you must go find out what happened to it. Go now, and when you come back I will give you your name.”
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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
« Reply #35 on: September 23, 2015, 01:12:07 PM »
On further investigation, it seems the idea cited in the OP was voiced by Abp Petrosian.
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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2015, 01:47:39 PM »
I think clouds are made out of candy. Fluffy, fluffy candy.
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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
« Reply #37 on: September 23, 2015, 02:27:22 PM »
I think clouds are made out of candy. Fluffy, fluffy candy.

I'm sure that must explain, along with your avatar.......,well.....something, anyway. :angel:  Please don't ask me what, though! 8)
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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
« Reply #38 on: September 23, 2015, 03:25:46 PM »
I really wish that this thread would have resulted in painfully in-depth analyses of historical, scriptural, and patristic texts. You disappointed me with your mostly stupid and cheeky responses, OC.net.
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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
« Reply #39 on: September 23, 2015, 04:24:29 PM »
I really wish that this thread would have resulted in painfully in-depth analyses of historical, scriptural, and patristic texts. You disappointed me with your mostly stupid and cheeky responses, OC.net.
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« Reply #40 on: December 26, 2015, 03:41:40 PM »
These nacreous clouds are signs of God's wonderful world.

We should see more of these as we head into another mini-ice age called a maunder minimum.

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Also known as "nacreous" or "mother of pearl" clouds, icy PSCs form in the lower stratosphere when temperatures drop to around minus 85ºC. That's how cold it has to be for ice crystals to form in the very dry stratosphere. High-altitude sunlight shining through tiny ice particles ~10µm across produce the characteristic bright iridescent colors by diffraction and interference. ...

"Polar stratospheric clouds far outshine and have much more vivid colours than ordinary iridescent clouds, which are very much poor relations and seen frequently all over the world," writes atmospheric optics expert Les Cowley. "Once seen they are never forgotten."
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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
« Reply #41 on: December 26, 2015, 04:35:09 PM »
Has anyone heard of this teaching? I heard from a guy that the clouds are made of God. Is this Orthodox?

No; it sounds rather like Neptune worship to me.
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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
« Reply #42 on: April 27, 2017, 08:50:06 PM »
Has anyone heard of this teaching? I heard from a guy that the clouds are made of God. Is this Orthodox?

No; it sounds rather like Neptune worship to me.

Wrong.
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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
« Reply #43 on: April 27, 2017, 09:55:26 PM »
I like clouds.
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Re: Clouds are Made of God?
« Reply #44 on: April 27, 2017, 11:29:43 PM »
When I was a child growing up in Jersey City, I thought clouds were made from oil refineries.  Then I realized...these are what will replace clouds when we end the world :P
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