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Ancient Faith Publications prayer book
« on: October 22, 2014, 07:06:14 PM »
Has anyone purchased a copy of the prayer book recently published by Ancient Faith Publications, and if so, what do you think of it?

http://store.ancientfaith.com/the-ancient-faith-prayer-book/

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Re: Ancient Faith Publications prayer book
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2014, 07:12:05 PM »
I've heard it's pretty bare and not worth purchasing.

I think it's hard for any prayer book to beat the one put out by the Erie Old Ritualists.
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Re: Ancient Faith Publications prayer book
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2014, 08:25:36 PM »
From what I've read, this prayerbook is supposed to be an alternative to the prayerbook which use Jacobean English.  I think this prayerbook is a solution in search of a problem.  It is pretty stripped down though it does have more psalms in the morning prayer section, for instance.  I just don't see what need it is satisfying. If you want a truncated, non-Jacobean English, GOARCH produces one.
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Re: Ancient Faith Publications prayer book
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2014, 09:15:58 PM »
Looking at the contents, I really don't see the point of publishing this prayer book. I am generally puzzled by the proliferation of prayer books which often have bare bones material and do not offer any apparent advantage over others.
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Re: Ancient Faith Publications prayer book
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2014, 09:18:07 PM »
I wish they would work on a Horologion or even a Psalter that does not require you to buy an analogion or steroids. 
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Re: Ancient Faith Publications prayer book
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2014, 11:26:37 PM »
I've heard it's pretty bare and not worth purchasing.

I think it's hard for any prayer book to beat the one put out by the Erie Old Ritualists.

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Re: Ancient Faith Publications prayer book
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2014, 04:25:03 AM »
Thank you everyone for your responses. 

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Re: Ancient Faith Publications prayer book
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2014, 05:31:57 AM »
Looking at the contents, I really don't see the point of publishing this prayer book. I am generally puzzled by the proliferation of prayer books which often have bare bones material and do not offer any apparent advantage over others.
Because Conciliar Press wanted to market one to its folk. :P
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Re: Ancient Faith Publications prayer book
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2014, 09:02:56 AM »
Because we needed a prayer book with "Ancient Faith" in the title. Next will be a publication of the "Holy Ancient Faith Bible," followed up by an "Ancient Faith Psalter." If we're lucky, we might even get a spin-off comic series titled, "Orthoman: Defender of the Ancient Faith."

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Re: Ancient Faith Publications prayer book
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2014, 11:18:50 AM »
Because we needed a prayer book with "Ancient Faith" in the title. Next will be a publication of the "Holy Ancient Faith Bible," followed up by an "Ancient Faith Psalter." If we're lucky, we might even get a spin-off comic series titled, "Orthoman: Defender of the Ancient Faith."

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no you need more emphasis on Ancient. Needs to be Ancient Ancient faith holy bible. Come on you would buy that one for sure

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Re: Ancient Faith Publications prayer book
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2014, 11:21:32 AM »
Because we needed a prayer book with "Ancient Faith" in the title. Next will be a publication of the "Holy Ancient Faith Bible," followed up by an "Ancient Faith Psalter." If we're lucky, we might even get a spin-off comic series titled, "Orthoman: Defender of the Ancient Faith."

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no you need more emphasis on Ancient. Needs to be Ancient Ancient faith holy bible. Come on you would buy that one for sure

But which ancient faith are we talking about?

I've type in ancientfaith.org instead of ancientfaith.com several times by accident, and needless to say, the results are not the same.
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Re: Ancient Faith Publications prayer book
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2014, 04:20:59 PM »
Because we needed a prayer book with "Ancient Faith" in the title. Next will be a publication of the "Holy Ancient Faith Bible"


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Re: Ancient Faith Publications prayer book
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2017, 01:42:09 PM »
Because we needed a prayer book with "Ancient Faith" in the title. Next will be a publication of the "Holy Ancient Faith Bible," followed up by an "Ancient Faith Psalter." If we're lucky, we might even get a spin-off comic series titled, "Orthoman: Defender of the Ancient Faith."

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Re: Ancient Faith Publications prayer book
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2017, 02:13:59 PM »
Because we needed a prayer book with "Ancient Faith" in the title. Next will be a publication of the "Holy Ancient Faith Bible," followed up by an "Ancient Faith Psalter." If we're lucky, we might even get a spin-off comic series titled, "Orthoman: Defender of the Ancient Faith."

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Well whaddaya know...

I suppose it is needed to compete with the modern faith psalter or the liberal Protestant Psalter or the Hyper-Sedevacanist Psalter.
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Re: Ancient Faith Publications prayer book
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2017, 02:16:42 PM »
Because we needed a prayer book with "Ancient Faith" in the title. Next will be a publication of the "Holy Ancient Faith Bible," followed up by an "Ancient Faith Psalter." If we're lucky, we might even get a spin-off comic series titled, "Orthoman: Defender of the Ancient Faith."

;)

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Also available in a "Deluxe Edition."
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Re: Ancient Faith Publications prayer book
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2017, 02:49:29 PM »
Because we needed a prayer book with "Ancient Faith" in the title. Next will be a publication of the "Holy Ancient Faith Bible," followed up by an "Ancient Faith Psalter." If we're lucky, we might even get a spin-off comic series titled, "Orthoman: Defender of the Ancient Faith."

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Also available in a "Deluxe Edition."

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Re: Ancient Faith Publications prayer book
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2017, 03:23:04 PM »
Apart from the gross branding/ marketing, I have to ask, as usual, "Why do we need this?" There are already 10 or so English Orthodox psalter translations, some in contemporary English, some in "hieratic" English, with varying amounts of supplementary material published by different groups. Can problems be found in all of them? Sure. Has this "dedicated group of Orthodox monks (who wish to remain anonymous)" finally hit on the superior translation (using the Masoretic, corrected according to the LXX, whatever that's supposed to mean)? I highly doubt it. I suspect the decision to publish another entirely new psalter was driven entirely by marketing considerations (if not for the anonymous monks, then for Ancient Faith Publishing). Repackaging, say, the Jordanville psalter, or the Holy Myrrhbearers Psalter, would I guess entail sharing profits with them, which simply wouldn't do.

I wish we could just get all these psalter tinkerers into one room together and ask each one, "Why? Why? WHY?!" 
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Thomas Hardy, Tess of the D'Urbervilles

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Re: Ancient Faith Publications prayer book
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2017, 04:07:00 PM »
I wish we could just get all these psalter tinkerers into one room together and ask each one, "Why? Why? WHY?!"

We'll do this at the next pan-Orthodox Not Council™.

Seriously, though, this is a grosser version of the issue of so many official and unofficial translations of the services across the diaspora jurisdictions.
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