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« on: June 22, 2017, 10:28:29 PM »
In an introductory scene, when Hyppolita is explaining to Diana the purpose of the Amazons for maintaining peace on earth, a musical phrase is repeated; it's from the Byzantine Divine Liturgy: eirene pasi.
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Re: Wonder Woman
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2017, 01:12:16 PM »
In an introductory scene, when Hyppolita is explaining to Diana the purpose of the Amazons for maintaining peace on earth, a musical phrase is repeated; it's from the Byzantine Divine Liturgy: eirene pasi.
Very cool! Really like the movie, btw.
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Re: Wonder Woman
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2017, 01:16:48 PM »
Yes it was great.

As someone with daughters, I found it quite moving.

The moviemakers did decide to turn her from Diana into Venus about half-way thru, and that even propels the climax ("Love will save the world"), but, hey, it's Hollywood.
« Last Edit: June 23, 2017, 01:17:38 PM by Porter ODoran »
"Love ... is an abyss of illumination, a mountain of fire ... . It is the condition of angels, the progress of eternity" (Climacus).

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Re: Wonder Woman
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2017, 02:23:17 PM »
I wondered at the polytheism in the movie.

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« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2017, 02:32:51 PM »
I wondered at the polytheism in the movie.

I don't know if DC's Greek gods are actual gods or just extremely powerful beings.

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« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2017, 02:58:06 PM »
I wondered at the polytheism in the movie.

I don't know if DC's Greek gods are actual gods or just extremely powerful beings.

They are gods of the atheist or agnostic imagination.
"Love ... is an abyss of illumination, a mountain of fire ... . It is the condition of angels, the progress of eternity" (Climacus).

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Re: Wonder Woman
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2017, 03:54:50 PM »
You should boycott the movie.

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Re: Wonder Woman
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2017, 04:03:53 PM »
You should boycott the movie.

If there were profits going to the Israeli government you might have a point. We don't punish individuals; that's prejudice.
"Love ... is an abyss of illumination, a mountain of fire ... . It is the condition of angels, the progress of eternity" (Climacus).

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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2017, 04:24:17 PM »
You should boycott the movie.

If there were profits going to the Israeli government you might have a point. We don't punish individuals; that's prejudice.

She served for two years in the israel deffence forces, when their was a war against Lebanon, always in 2015 she supported the war in Gaza.
It is not always a money profit, it is a cultural image of a country, because of that israel promote her.

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Re: Wonder Woman
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2017, 04:29:37 PM »
You should boycott the movie.

If there were profits going to the Israeli government you might have a point. We don't punish individuals; that's prejudice.

She served for two years in the israel deffence forces, when their was a war against Lebanon, always in 2015 she supported the war in Gaza

All that means is she's an Israeli.

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It is not always a money profit, it is a cultural image of a country, because of that israel promote her.

So you're afraid people will think Israeli women are superheroes?
"Love ... is an abyss of illumination, a mountain of fire ... . It is the condition of angels, the progress of eternity" (Climacus).

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Re: Wonder Woman
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2017, 04:56:22 PM »
You should boycott the movie.

If there were profits going to the Israeli government you might have a point. We don't punish individuals; that's prejudice.

She served for two years in the israel deffence forces, when their was a war against Lebanon, always in 2015 she supported the war in Gaza

All that means is she's an Israeli.

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It is not always a money profit, it is a cultural image of a country, because of that israel promote her.

So you're afraid people will think Israeli women are superheroes?

You can be from israel and don't support the israel politics.when she participate in the war in 2006 she may killed innocent people, the majority of people who died was innocent.

It is not an image of superheroes, it is an image that israel try to promote her country, that she is a peaceful country who like beauty and cultural event. Not like the one against her.

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Re: Wonder Woman
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2017, 04:59:42 PM »
I'm not defending Israeli wars. Everyone in Israel serves in the military as a young person. There's no good reason to try to punish one young woman for it.
"Love ... is an abyss of illumination, a mountain of fire ... . It is the condition of angels, the progress of eternity" (Climacus).

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Yes we who are far from sainthood we can recognize a living saint and I'm talking from personal experience.Yes they are gentle soo gentle it can not be described it is like gentleness and humility in one and also they have this light this energy it's beyond words...and when you are near them you feel ecstatic and very happy

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« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2017, 05:26:04 PM »
I'm not defending Israeli wars. Everyone in Israel serves in the military as a young person. There's no good reason to try to punish one young woman for it.

For us it is an anti normalisation. So you will participate in a concert for a band that support a racist group just because they play good music.

Hollywoood didn't tolarate political statement from gibson, but she hasn't any problem when gadot support the war against Gaza.

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Re: Wonder Woman
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2017, 05:29:55 PM »
I'm not defending Israeli wars. Everyone in Israel serves in the military as a young person. There's no good reason to try to punish one young woman for it.

For us it is an anti normalisation. So you will participate in a concert for a band that support a racist group just because they play good music.

Hollywoood didn't tolarate political statement from gibson, but she hasn't any problem when gadot support the war against Gaza.

You should choose your battles wisely. Picking on a single young person from some country you don't like isn't going to be effective. But good luck.
"Love ... is an abyss of illumination, a mountain of fire ... . It is the condition of angels, the progress of eternity" (Climacus).

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Yes we who are far from sainthood we can recognize a living saint and I'm talking from personal experience.Yes they are gentle soo gentle it can not be described it is like gentleness and humility in one and also they have this light this energy it's beyond words...and when you are near them you feel ecstatic and very happy

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Re: Wonder Woman
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2017, 05:57:54 PM »
I did not know she was Israeli until after I saw the film. :police: :-X

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Re: Wonder Woman
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2017, 06:34:11 PM »
I couldn't go see it in the cinema, but I'll get the DVD as soon as it comes out. Until then, what gives me a big Cheshire Cat grin is seeing another princess from my childhood grow up to become a general. ;D
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Re: Wonder Woman
« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2017, 06:50:51 PM »
I couldn't go see it in the cinema, but I'll get the DVD as soon as it comes out. Until then, what gives me a big Cheshire Cat grin is seeing another princess from my childhood grow up to become a general. ;D

Surely it's still in theaters?
« Last Edit: June 23, 2017, 06:51:05 PM by Porter ODoran »
"Love ... is an abyss of illumination, a mountain of fire ... . It is the condition of angels, the progress of eternity" (Climacus).

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Re: Wonder Woman
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2017, 07:03:30 PM »
I couldn't go see it in the cinema, but I'll get the DVD as soon as it comes out. Until then, what gives me a big Cheshire Cat grin is seeing another princess from my childhood grow up to become a general. ;D

Surely it's still in theaters?

Yes, but I still can't go for the foreseeable future. It's okay - the DVD will cost just a little over the price of a single ticket and will last a lot more than a single viewing. :)
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Re: Wonder Woman
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2017, 07:28:38 PM »
I'm not defending Israeli wars. Everyone in Israel serves in the military as a young person. There's no good reason to try to punish one young woman for it.

For us it is an anti normalisation. So you will participate in a concert for a band that support a racist group just because they play good music.

Hollywoood didn't tolarate political statement from gibson, but she hasn't any problem when gadot support the war against Gaza.

You should choose your battles wisely. Picking on a single young person from some country you don't like isn't going to be effective. But good luck.

It is not just a country that i don't like, it is a country that i think till now her existent is not normal. That is the difference between our point of view.

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Re: Wonder Woman
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2017, 08:06:57 PM »
I'm not defending Israeli wars. Everyone in Israel serves in the military as a young person. There's no good reason to try to punish one young woman for it.

For us it is an anti normalisation. So you will participate in a concert for a band that support a racist group just because they play good music.

Hollywoood didn't tolarate political statement from gibson, but she hasn't any problem when gadot support the war against Gaza.

You should choose your battles wisely. Picking on a single young person from some country you don't like isn't going to be effective. But good luck.

It is not just a country that i don't like, it is a country that i think till now her existent is not normal. That is the difference between our point of view.

Nope that's not our difference. I agree and understand that the creation of Israel was abnormal and has caused much harm. I just don't agree that picking on some individual citizen will solve anything. That's just mean.
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Re: Wonder Woman
« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2017, 03:34:23 PM »

I enjoyed the movie...in the theater.
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Re: Wonder Woman
« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2017, 12:14:10 AM »
Never liked super heroes and this stream of infantile movies about them boggles my mind.  :o
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