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Re: the roles of mary in orthodox church??
« Reply #90 on: December 27, 2012, 08:21:54 AM »
Did any of you -- particularly those of you who are cradle Orthodox (or cradle Catholic) ever think it was alright to call Mary the Mother of the Trinity?

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Re: the roles of mary in orthodox church??
« Reply #91 on: December 27, 2012, 08:33:30 AM »
Did any of you -- particularly those of you who are cradle Orthodox (or cradle Catholic) ever think it was alright to call Mary the Mother of the Trinity?

No.
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Re: the roles of mary in orthodox church??
« Reply #92 on: December 27, 2012, 08:38:43 AM »
Would Orthodox Christians call Virgin Mary as Mother of the world or Mother of all people , like Catholic Christians?
Any comment?

Well, the Orthodox do call her the "Mother of all living" among other things (http://theorthodoxchurch.info/blog/ocrc/2009/06/st-mary-in-the-orthodox-church/) so that would presumably mean the same as "Mother of all people" or "Mother of the world".

What is your problem with those specific titles?
Jesus is God and king of king, so Mary is Mother of God and Mother of King,e.g.Queen.

But how these titles of Mary (e.g.Mother of all world , Mother of all people, Mother of all living) come from?

Is Mary also the mother of those who are not in Christ e.g .Non-Christians?( Since Mary is mother of ALL people/ALL living)
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Re: the roles of mary in orthodox church??
« Reply #93 on: December 27, 2012, 08:42:03 AM »

Jesus is God and king of king, so Mary is Mother of God and Mother of King,e.g.Queen.

But how these titles of Mary (e.g.Mother of all world , Mother of all people, Mother of all living) come from?

Then he said to the disciple, “Behold, your mother!” (John 19:27)

Is Mary also the mother of those who are not in Christ e.g .Non-Christians?( Since Mary is mother of ALL people/ALL living)

Now that's a good question.
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Re: the roles of mary in orthodox church??
« Reply #94 on: December 27, 2012, 08:57:57 AM »
Mary is the first person who knows and believes in Christ.She is the first Christian and so all our spiritual mother.I think it is appropriate.

However , the title of Mother of ALL people and ALL Living seems incorrect. Because all people/All living also include those who do not believe in Christ. And this also means that Mary is the mother of those who are not in Christ,e.g. non-christians.
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Re: the roles of mary in orthodox church??
« Reply #95 on: December 27, 2012, 10:42:07 AM »
Mary is the first person who knows and believes in Christ.She is the first Christian and so all our spiritual mother.I think it is appropriate.

However , the title of Mother of ALL people and ALL Living seems incorrect. Because all people/All living also include those who do not believe in Christ. And this also means that Mary is the mother of those who are not in Christ,e.g. non-christians.

It's my understanding the The Theotokos is called the "Mother of the All the Living" because she is the Second Eve, as Christ is the Second Adam. Where Eve is tempted and disobeys, the Blessed Virgin is obedient and bears the savior of the world.

She becomes the Mother of All the Living by virtue of her fulfilling the role that Eve was given in the beginning, to be submitted completely to the will of God just as Christ is submitted to the will of God even onto death, and death on a cross.
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