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Offline spiltteeth

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Any swans fans ?
« on: September 20, 2012, 04:18:56 PM »
Swans the band I mean. Michael Gira and friends just put out a new album SEER. I consider them the greatest Christian band ever, tho most find the lyrics dark or hateful. Also their on tour now. Next month in NYC I might go check it out.
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Re: Any swans fans ?
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2012, 04:31:56 PM »
I really like some of their earlier work... Children of God, Great Annihilator... I never thought of them as a Christian band though. For some reason Michael Gira marching around the stage in bondage did not evoke "Christian band" to me.
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Re: Any swans fans ?
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2012, 04:33:49 PM »
Thought you were talking about the AFL club, I was about to trash talk. :police:



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Re: Any swans fans ?
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2012, 04:40:37 PM »
Quote from: Iconodule on September 20, 2012, 04:31:56 PM
I really like some of their earlier work... Children of God, Great Annihilator... I never thought of them as a Christian band though. For some reason Michael Gira marching around the stage in bondage did not evoke "Christian band" to me.

ah, that may have been before he converted. His new band, Angels of Light is great, especially the album "my father will guide me up a rope to the sky"
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Re: Any swans fans ?
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2012, 04:58:13 PM »
Quote from: spiltteeth on September 20, 2012, 04:40:37 PM
Quote from: Iconodule on September 20, 2012, 04:31:56 PM
I really like some of their earlier work... Children of God, Great Annihilator... I never thought of them as a Christian band though. For some reason Michael Gira marching around the stage in bondage did not evoke "Christian band" to me.

ah, that may have been before he converted. His new band, Angels of Light is great, especially the album "my father will guide me up a rope to the sky"

I've not heard of this conversion. Are you sure of that?

For anyone who's wondering why the Swans are so great... here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hI5Eg6Ias4
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But it had not been in Tess's power - nor is it in anybody's power - to feel the whole truth of golden opinions while it is possible to profit by them. She - and how many more - might have ironically said to God with Saint Augustine, "Thou hast counselled a better course than thou hast permitted."
Thomas Hardy, Tess of the D'Urbervilles

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Re: Any swans fans ?
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2012, 09:50:22 AM »
My dad loves this band. (He's 60 this year)
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Re: Any swans fans ?
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2012, 09:34:39 PM »
Quote from: Iconodule on September 20, 2012, 04:58:13 PM
Quote from: spiltteeth on September 20, 2012, 04:40:37 PM
Quote from: Iconodule on September 20, 2012, 04:31:56 PM
I really like some of their earlier work... Children of God, Great Annihilator... I never thought of them as a Christian band though. For some reason Michael Gira marching around the stage in bondage did not evoke "Christian band" to me.

ah, that may have been before he converted. His new band, Angels of Light is great, especially the album "my father will guide me up a rope to the sky"

I've not heard of this conversion. Are you sure of that?

For anyone who's wondering why the Swans are so great... here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hI5Eg6Ias4

Well, its not certain. In an interview this year Gira said he'd been frequenting a Catholic church recently. Also he's said that he has religious aspirations. His lyrics are full of Christian imagery, but when asked about it he gives vague answers. Personally I believe he is Christian, albeit a Flannery O'Connor/southern gothic type, but wants to keep it on the dl because people will automatically reject his message if they identify him as such. A lot of fans already complain about all the Christian references.
On the other hand he has said that he finds the idea of anthropomorphizing God absurd and he has spoken harshly of dogmatic religion.
So...not sure, but really his lyrics only seem to make sense in a Christian context. 
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Re: Any swans fans ?
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2012, 10:42:56 PM »
I need to thank you for starting this thread. I've forgotten how much I loved this band. Listening to them again now, I think I like them even better than I did in high school. I used to blast "New Mind" out of my dorm window and people would ask, "Who was playing that 'damn you to hell' song?"
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But it had not been in Tess's power - nor is it in anybody's power - to feel the whole truth of golden opinions while it is possible to profit by them. She - and how many more - might have ironically said to God with Saint Augustine, "Thou hast counselled a better course than thou hast permitted."
Thomas Hardy, Tess of the D'Urbervilles
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