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Offline Jonathan Gress

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Moscow Patriarchate participating at Sant'Egidio
« on: September 18, 2012, 03:46:12 PM »
I just came across this wonderful video, showing how people of different faiths can rise above their dogmatic differences and pray for that which all religions have as their common aim: world peace!

If you skip ahead to 59:00, you will even see a representative of the Moscow Patriarchate lighting the ecumenical lampada. It is certainly comforting to know that the MP was not serious about it's opposition to ecumenical prayer, which it published back in 2000: a truly heart-rending rejection of decades of leadership in the causes of peace and social justice! Thankfully, we are starting to see in them a renewed commitment to the unification of people of all faiths and walks of life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32BHtFmWXBc&feature=player_embedded#!

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Re: Moscow Patriarchate participating at Sant'Egidio
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2012, 04:48:56 PM »
My sarcasm detector is beeping. :)
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Re: Moscow Patriarchate participating at Sant'Egidio
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2012, 05:50:23 PM »
Sorry, it should be "its opposition", not "it's opposition".

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Re: Moscow Patriarchate participating at Sant'Egidio
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2012, 06:29:09 PM »
His entire forum is like that. It's no wonder they are called "Irregular".
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Re: Moscow Patriarchate participating at Sant'Egidio
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2012, 04:29:00 AM »
Here is what Romanian Elders have to say about ecumenism:

http://youtu.be/m-RdNeKlFs8
http://youtu.be/7o7UGLTauHI

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Re: Moscow Patriarchate participating at Sant'Egidio
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2012, 04:52:08 AM »
My sarcasm detector is beeping. :)

Same here.

Here is what Romanian Elders have to say about ecumenism:

http://youtu.be/m-RdNeKlFs8
http://youtu.be/7o7UGLTauHI

The second one I watched multiple times. I cannot but laugh when he talks about the three great errors since the creation of the world. He's brilliant.
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Re: Moscow Patriarchate participating at Sant'Egidio
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2012, 05:31:34 AM »
I cannot but laugh when he talks about the three great errors since the creation of the world. He's brilliant.

I suspect that he was referring to something St. Justin Popovich said...

"In the history of the human race there have been three principle falls: that of Adam, that of Judas, and that of the pope. The principle characteristic of falling into sin is always the same: wanting to be good for one's own sake; wanting to be perfect for one's own sake; wanting to be God for one's own sake." - St. Justin Popovich, Orthodox Faith and Life in Christ, (Institute for Byzantine and Modern Greek Studies, 1994), p. 105
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Re: Moscow Patriarchate participating at Sant'Egidio
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2012, 09:09:35 AM »
I just came across this wonderful video, showing how people of different faiths can rise above their dogmatic differences and pray for that which all religions have as their common aim: world peace!

If you skip ahead to 59:00, you will even see a representative of the Moscow Patriarchate lighting the ecumenical lampada. It is certainly comforting to know that the MP was not serious about it's opposition to ecumenical prayer, which it published back in 2000: a truly heart-rending rejection of decades of leadership in the causes of peace and social justice! Thankfully, we are starting to see in them a renewed commitment to the unification of people of all faiths and walks of life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32BHtFmWXBc&feature=player_embedded#!

Yeah, yeah, we get it: MP=Bad. HOTCA=Good.

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Re: Moscow Patriarchate participating at Sant'Egidio
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2012, 10:52:14 AM »
Just another one of those nutters in an non-canonical Orthodox Church
sounding off about another pet concern...I am certainly NO SUPPORTER of ecumenism

BUT I do just wonder do these people ever look
at themselves with the same scathing and merciless scrutiny that
they apply to all the Canonical Orthodox Patriarchates???
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Re: Moscow Patriarchate participating at Sant'Egidio
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2012, 11:10:31 AM »
Just another one of those nutters in an non-canonical Orthodox Church
sounding off about another pet concern...I am certainly NO SUPPORTER of ecumenism

BUT I do just wonder do these people ever look
at themselves with the same scathing and merciless scrutiny that
they apply to all the Canonical Orthodox Patriarchates???

Again - much of this endless patter on 'ecumenism' goes to how one parses the word itself. As to the MP and the EP's positions on the subject, it really should be no surprise that while they have differences in nuance, differences in approach and differences in the publicity they append to ecumenical matters,the substance of their positions are for the most part similar- and to no one's surprise on this and other forums which I frequent - are positions to which I agree in general.

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Re: Moscow Patriarchate participating at Sant'Egidio
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2012, 11:19:55 AM »
If you skip ahead to 59:00, you will even see a representative of the Moscow Patriarchate lighting the ecumenical lampada.

Second worst heresy (after Armenian hats).

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Re: Moscow Patriarchate participating at Sant'Egidio
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2012, 11:38:32 AM »
Just another one of those nutters in an non-canonical Orthodox Church
sounding off about another pet concern...I am certainly NO SUPPORTER of ecumenism

BUT I do just wonder do these people ever look
at themselves with the same scathing and merciless scrutiny that
they apply to all the Canonical Orthodox Patriarchates???

Again - much of this endless patter on 'ecumenism' goes to how one parses the word itself. As to the MP and the EP's positions on the subject, it really should be no surprise that while they have differences in nuance, differences in approach and differences in the publicity they append to ecumenical matters,the substance of their positions are for the most part similar- and to no one's surprise on this and other forums which I frequent - are positions to which I agree in general.

If you actually agree with the position of the EP and MP, that's not what I have issue with. My post was aimed more at those who try to pretend the MP believes one thing, when its actions show it believes something else.