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« Reply #45 on: September 19, 2012, 03:23:56 PM »

This article from MSNBC.Com may be of interest:  http://cosmiclog.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/18/13945001-reality-check-on-jesus-and-his-wife?lite
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« Reply #46 on: September 19, 2012, 03:34:01 PM »

I doubt that this is true. No woman would marry a man who was always right.
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« Reply #47 on: September 19, 2012, 03:54:33 PM »

Dr. King's forthcoming article on the fragment addresses some of the issues raised about the fragment: http://news.hds.harvard.edu/files/King_JesusSaidToThem_draft_0917.pdf
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« Reply #48 on: September 19, 2012, 04:33:31 PM »

Just wait until James Cameron gets involved!
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« Reply #49 on: September 19, 2012, 04:35:36 PM »

I doubt that this is true. No woman would marry a man who was always right.

Stealing this. Sorry.
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« Reply #50 on: September 19, 2012, 04:38:55 PM »

Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

I doubt that this is true. No woman would marry a man who was always right.

Stealing this. Sorry.

Best to give his spouse the real credit then eh? Wink

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« Reply #51 on: September 19, 2012, 04:59:31 PM »

Well that's why I asked if I was understanding Punch correctly, because it strikes me as distasteful but could have a reasonable explanation...

Habte explained my position quite well.  Consider the concept of apostasy.  One cannot apostatize if they were never part of "the Bride of Christ".  Yet the Scriptures tell us that there will be a great apostasy.  Christ Himself even asked if He would find Faith.  Are there any of us here that have not committed adultery against our Bridegroom when we give in to the seduction of the Devil?
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« Reply #52 on: September 19, 2012, 07:30:57 PM »

Who declared it 'authentic'? The Church? And if not the Church, then what does calling it 'authentic' even mean? Probably just "really, really old", which, yeah okay fine, but who really cares? Lots of writings are really old. It doesn't make them true.

The whole topic is ridiculous, for even those monks, who reached a higher plane of human existence, have been able to free themselves of all physical desires, so how can one say that God was not free?  That those outside of Christianity should even consider it a topic of discussion, only shows their ignorance of Christianity.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #53 on: September 19, 2012, 08:45:21 PM »

I doubt that this is true. No woman would marry a man who was always right.

They just deny he was right , like always. Grin

I found it does me no good being right. Wink
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« Reply #54 on: September 19, 2012, 09:50:12 PM »

Just wait until James Cameron gets involved!

I was hoping for Geraldo Rivera, but I guess that works too.
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« Reply #55 on: September 20, 2012, 12:43:02 AM »

Jesus speaks about the church being his bride... Hmm, I wonder what this could mean?
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« Reply #56 on: September 20, 2012, 12:57:45 AM »

Jesus speaks about the church being his bride... Hmm, I wonder what this could mean?
It turns out that Mary Magdalene's middle name was "Ecclesia".  Grin
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« Reply #57 on: September 20, 2012, 07:32:49 AM »

"His Eminence Metropolitan Methodios is grateful to the Reverend Dr. Theodore Stylianopoulos for responding to recent media reports concerning a 4th century Coptic text. Father Stylianopoulos is Professor Emeritus of New Testament at Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology."

To read the statement from Fr Ted, go here: http://www.boston.goarch.org/news/metropolis_news/2012/1000.html
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« Reply #58 on: September 21, 2012, 06:55:42 PM »

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/21/my-take-i-dont-know-if-jesus-was-married-and-i-dont-care/?hpt=hp_t3

The above commentators words probably seem ridiculous to most of us but sadly probably resonate with most of the people who will read it.
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« Reply #59 on: September 24, 2012, 03:30:36 PM »

I remember reading one author assert that since Jesus was at the Marriage at Cana around the age that Jewish teenagers of that era were usually wed, this was proof that He was married.

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« Reply #60 on: September 24, 2012, 03:52:16 PM »

Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

I remember reading one author assert that since Jesus was at the Marriage at Cana around the age that Jewish teenagers of that era were usually wed, this was proof that He was married.





All the more instances as to why I strongly suggest that the Bible come with a Spiritual Parental Advisory Warning to warn folks not to read the Bible without the assistance of their spiritual fathers, and if they have none, then firsts things first, get one!

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« Reply #61 on: September 28, 2012, 08:59:02 PM »

Today the new york times reported the Vatican is calling it a fake.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/19/us/historian-says-piece-of-papyrus-refers-to-jesus-wife.html
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« Reply #62 on: October 01, 2012, 07:29:34 PM »

Documentary on Smithsonian channel postponed amid doubts of authenticity. More tests are being done.

http://news.yahoo.com/doc-papyrus-fragment-purporting-jesus-had-wife-delayed-214312152.html
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« Reply #63 on: October 07, 2012, 06:07:24 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiUZ2qy90_I
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« Reply #64 on: October 07, 2012, 08:22:09 PM »

Today the new york times reported the Vatican is calling it a fake.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/19/us/historian-says-piece-of-papyrus-refers-to-jesus-wife.html

Of course they would. DaVinci Code and all that. Remember all those popes of the early centuries sending out squadrons of monks with axes to suppress the truth in between getting martyred?
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« Reply #65 on: October 08, 2012, 07:19:16 PM »


I am informed that I violated a rule by posting this link alone. I hereby rectify that situation by posting the video description:

"The Christian world is reeling from the discovery of an ancient document suggesting that Jesus was married. And by "reeling from" I mean "not in the slightest bit affected by." Here's why."
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