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Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« on: December 10, 2004, 11:43:04 AM »
Hi ya'll.

I've scheduled time to upgrade the board on January 1st, 2005.  I have rewritten the majority of it from the ground-up, resulting in a faster, more streamlined board engine, while improving [and adding] significant features.  In other words, it's going to look rather different but function the same, if not better.

The people on the board who graciously took the time to test it have had nothing but great reviews so far, so I am assured you will all enjoy it as well.  It is definitely going to have a more next generation look and feel to it.  I have also equipped it to handle under load a bit better.

However, since this is your community just as much as it is ours, I would be appreciative if you could offer any comments in this thread about features or elements on this board that should be either added, modified, or eliminated.  Are there any interface issues?  

I am interested in keeping this the most populous, and in my opinion best, Orthodox forum on the Internet.  I need your input.  A lot of folks lurk here or visit from time to time but offer no input.  It would be nice if you could voice your opinions.

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Re:Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2004, 12:01:52 PM »
If at all possible, it would be nice if when anyone posts anything critical of my posts that either:

1) the offending posters computer reboots continuously for a period not to exceed 15 hours

or;

2) the offending post is changed to say "Hmmm. Very thoughtful post, TomS. At first I disagreed with you, but upon further reflection, I see the wisdom in your words."

Thanks for your support!

P.S. Then again, you could always just change my post to read "Hi I am TomS and sometimes I am a dumbass."
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Re:Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2004, 12:54:39 PM »
Come on, I wanted something serious not funny stuff.


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Re:Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2004, 12:59:18 PM »
Hey now Rob, no cussing, don't make me warn you!  Seriously, you showed me before the upgrade (tho I didn't test it) and it looks great, just going to take some getting used to, ie the new look.  But I think it will work great.  Some of the new features that are present under the members name when they post, I dunno, they seem kinda busy.  (I forget what that thermometer thing was used to gauge.)  But that's just my opinion.
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Re:Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2004, 01:10:43 PM »
Come on, I wanted something serious not funny stuff.

Then stop looking in the mirror
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Re:Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2004, 01:13:10 PM »
After my initial trepidation, the new, new board looks great!

It is obviously a Labor of Love...

You go, CodeMaster!

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Re:Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2004, 01:18:00 PM »
Then stop looking in the mirror

Tom, don't make us install that thing where we change all of your posts.  See now I've yelled at both of you, so quit the swearing and personal attacks.  (Yea I think I'm overstepping my bounds, only what my 3rd day as a permanent mod?)
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Re:Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2004, 01:28:36 PM »
Don't worry Kim I got your back.
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Re:Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2004, 02:24:09 PM »
Look Tom, I think you're a cool guy in person, but when you come on this board you have a tendency to act like a child.  People have told you this countless times so it will probably bounce off your head, but I solicited an honest question and I got a joke answer.

When you dedicate hours of labor to something and receive answers like the one you posted you might expect a little anger.


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Re:Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2004, 02:26:56 PM »
You mean like: "Screw you guys. I'm goin' home?"

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Re:Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2004, 02:34:03 PM »
More like: "You can do it yourself."

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Re:Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2004, 02:46:47 PM »
Robert,

I have a question...will our profiles, signatures, etc. be retained after the upgrade?

(btw, u know this, but i think you are doing an awesome and amazing job keeping OCnet up and running and keeping it cutting edge and at the head of the pack ;) thank you for all your hard work)
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Re:Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2004, 02:48:50 PM »
yea everything will be here. signatures,posts, pm, et al.

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Re:Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2004, 05:29:14 PM »
I haven't seen the new design, so it's hard to say, but I noticed this.
Some of the new features that are present under the members name when they post, I dunno, they seem kinda busy.  (I forget what that thermometer thing was used to gauge.)  But that's just my opinion.
I'll have to disagree.  The busier the better  ;D
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Re:Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2004, 05:35:26 PM »
Another idea...have you done anything with the smileys?  A "worried" or "unsure" smiley would be useful
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Re:Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2004, 05:37:26 PM »
To see what too busy is: www.christianforums.com

That is too busy :) (smiley)
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Re:Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2004, 05:39:08 PM »
Ok, that's overdoing it, but just a little lol
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Re:Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2004, 06:02:39 PM »
WHOA that is insane.  You can BLESS the other members...I'm amazed...nevermind, Rob, yours is FINE!
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Re:Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2004, 06:55:30 PM »
To see what too busy is: www.christianforums.com

That is too busy :) (smiley)

I think it mostly reflects that Christianity is bigger than just Orthodoxy.

(You set yourself up for that one.) :) :-)


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Re:Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2004, 07:09:23 PM »
I do like the Orthodox smileys that are available on that board on the Ancient Way portion.  There are some of Orthodox crossing themselves, priests blessing, bishops blessing and censing, etc.

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Re:Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2004, 09:49:24 PM »
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I do like the Orthodox smileys that are available on that board on the Ancient Way portion.  There are some of Orthodox crossing themselves, priests blessing, bishops blessing and censing, etc.

WOW that sounds awesome!!!!
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Re:Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2004, 08:13:00 AM »
I think it mostly reflects that Christianity is bigger than just Orthodoxy.

er..., no. It doesn't.

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Re: Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2004, 11:16:52 PM »
Why is my ISP number showing! Is outrage1 Is outrage!!

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Re: Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2004, 11:21:53 PM »
When you click on your IP, this disclaimer should be popping up on your screen:

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Your IP address is shown only to you and moderators. Remember that this information is not identifying, and that most IPs change periodically.

You cannot see other member's IP addresses, and they cannot see yours.

Is not outrage so very much!  ;D

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Re: Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2004, 11:35:32 PM »

I think it mostly reflects that Christianity is bigger than just Orthodoxy.

(You set yourself up for that one.) :) :-)

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Re: Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #25 on: December 14, 2004, 11:40:12 PM »
this is minor, but is there any way to put an additional link to "show unread posts since last visit" at the bottom of every page as well as at the top? i find myself having to scroll up as soon as i finish reading every thread to get to the link again, and it's makin me dizzy :)
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Re: Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #26 on: December 14, 2004, 11:47:33 PM »


I think it mostly reflects that Christianity is bigger than just Orthodoxy.

(You set yourself up for that one.) :) :-)



My point was all of the smilies, things you can purchase for your profile with your blessing bank that you can use as a savings account and earn interest on etc etc, it's too busy!

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Re: Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #27 on: December 14, 2004, 11:49:06 PM »
why do only some and not all threads (topics) have the "rate this topic" option? i wanted to rate a thread ive been reading and the button isnt there...

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Re: Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2004, 06:10:04 AM »
Just a reflection on the new presentation. When looking at the bar above, i.e. 'home' 'help' 'search', etc., might the smaller size and lack of contrast present difficulties for those with low vision? Similarly the forum listings? Yes, it's pretty but is it accessible being the question?

Anyone who is sight impaired got a view?
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Re: Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2004, 09:08:38 AM »
Just a reflection on the new presentation. When looking at the bar above, i.e. 'home' 'help' 'search', etc., might the smaller size and lack of contrast present difficulties for those with low vision? Similarly the forum listings? Yes, it's pretty but is it accessible being the question?

Anyone who is sight impaired got a view?

I don't recall anyone saying it's difficult to read. You can increase the size of the text in your browser if the text is too small (in IE, view->textsize)
All of the administrators and global moderator (not sure about John) wear some sort of vision correction and we can alll see/read it fine. In addition, no one else has said anything either. But if they want the buttons bigger, I suppose that can be done. What do you say?

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Re: Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #30 on: December 15, 2004, 09:10:16 AM »
why do only some and not all threads (topics) have the "rate this topic" option? i wanted to rate a thread ive been reading and the button isnt there...

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I haven't made every board a "ratings" board yet. But soon when I get around to it.


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Re: Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #31 on: December 15, 2004, 09:11:07 AM »
this is minor, but is there any way to put an additional link to "show unread posts since last visit" at the bottom of every page as well as at the top? i find myself having to scroll up as soon as i finish reading every thread to get to the link again, and it's makin me dizzy :)


I don't really want to, can't you use the back button on your browser?


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Re: Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #32 on: December 15, 2004, 09:43:13 AM »

All of the administrators and global moderator (not sure about John) wear some sort of vision correction and we can alll see/read it fine. In addition, no one else has said anything either. But if they want the buttons bigger, I suppose that can be done. What do you say?


I probably ought to get my eyes checked soon :P. When reading books I now have to hold them the same distance from my eyes as the computer screen normally is. With modern browsers font size really should not be a problem as I think most have an option to scale up not only the text but images as well. Opera does this very well IMO.

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Re: Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #33 on: December 15, 2004, 10:39:58 AM »
well, when you change the text size, the size of the text in the buttons doesn's increase, only the size of the other text on the screen

p.s. not that i have a problem with the size of the text :)
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Re: Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #34 on: December 15, 2004, 02:53:44 PM »


I don't really want to, can't you use the back button on your browser?



i thought that using the "back" button on forums like this undoes the action you have done as well, like if i am working my way thru "posts since my last visit" and im reading a thread, and then press "back" to get back to the "posts since my list visit" page, wouldnt the thread i just read still be on the list?

and FYI, at some point i did say something about the fonts being too small, but Anastasios gave me the tip of increasing the font size on my browser...so gphadraig is not the only one to have said anything :)
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Re: Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #35 on: December 15, 2004, 07:12:28 PM »
I just click back on the OC.net Community link at the bottom of each page, where it separates into links for General Forums | Board News | Topic: Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
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Re: Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #36 on: December 15, 2004, 07:39:26 PM »
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I just click back on the OC.net Community link at the bottom of each page, where it separates into links for General Forums | Board News | Topic: Board Upgrade - Jan 1st

actually, that sorta works...first i click one of those to get back to the top of the page, then i click "list posts since last visit" and continue my browsing :) 2 clicks instead of one, but that's better than getting dizzy from scrolling back up every time - thanx for that tip, Kim!
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Re: Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #37 on: December 25, 2004, 03:39:03 AM »
I miss the old profiles! It was possible to format the text, and the greatest thing was that the column was wide enough so that a large amount of text was easy to read. Also, manual line-breaks don't seem to work anymore! Look at my profile and you'll understand what I mean. I could write my profile breafer and just refer to my homepage for more about me, but then I wouldn't get to create a distinct image of myself for OC.net users

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Re: Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #38 on: December 25, 2004, 11:35:11 PM »
I miss the old profiles! It was possible to format the text, and the greatest thing was that the column was wide enough so that a large amount of text was easy to read. Also, manual line-breaks don't seem to work anymore! Look at my profile and you'll understand what I mean. I could write my profile breafer and just refer to my homepage for more about me, but then I wouldn't get to create a distinct image of myself for OC.net users

I am currently away from home, so I cannot address this issue at the moment.

However, I will look into fiixing the problems you describe, by adding formatting and fixing the space.

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Re:Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #39 on: December 26, 2004, 03:54:16 AM »
I do like the Orthodox smileys that are available on that board on the Ancient Way portion.  There are some of Orthodox crossing themselves, priests blessing, bishops blessing and censing, etc. 

I checked that out...would it be copyright infringement to use them here?
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Re: Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #40 on: December 26, 2004, 05:33:43 AM »
I like more the chat room indicator on the main page .. thanks the new board looks really cool :D
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Re: Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #41 on: December 26, 2004, 09:45:35 AM »
i thought that using the "back" button on forums like this undoes the action you have done as well, like if i am working my way thru "posts since my last visit" and im reading a thread, and then press "back" to get back to the "posts since my list visit" page, wouldnt the thread i just read still be on the list?

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I swear that I posted this in the wee hours of the night before falling asleep, but it isn't here ??? - so, ...

The absence of a link at the bottom of the screen page to accomplish what you're asking seems, for some inexplicable reason, to be a common aspect of architecture to all on-line message boards, regardless of the system on which they are built. Not sure why that is, other than to aggravate folks like you and myself, who object to having to scroll through what we already bothered to read - "been there, done that, why revisit?"

Your "back" button doesn't undo what you've done (unless you are in the process of drafting a reply to a post and so unwise as to use it before posting the reply :o). In all other instances, what it does is to return you to a place in time, with respect to the forum's use, that presages that in which you were before its (the button's) use; if you can't get your head around the place/time/use premise (sounds like an obscure philosophical concept from metaphysics), not to worry - it sounded so convoluted that I couldn't stop myself from typing it ;).

Instead, hit your "back" button, then hit "refresh" in the drop-down "view" menu. It will cause the screen's contents to be refreshed to a current state of information O0. I find the extra keystroke needed to do so is infinitely less aggravating than scrolling back to the top of the page.

That was a long way to go to get to a 1 sentence of useful advice, wasn't it :-? Think I'll have coffee now - that's the problem, brain cells lulled by turkey and, as yet, unstimulated.

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Re: Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #42 on: December 26, 2004, 03:45:06 PM »
Thank you for the tip, Neil :) I have solved the problem by using the "go up" button, where i click that once and then click on my link to "posts since last visit"...i had never noticed the "go up" and "go down" buttons, and they are turning out to be very helpful :) your explanation of how the back button effects fora such as this oneis quite accurate, in my opinion (i didn't find it convoluted at all), and i will remember your tip about the refresh button as well :) thanx, and hope you had a Merry Christmas! :)
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Re: Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #43 on: December 27, 2004, 02:49:17 PM »
Well, I'm back home now so I can go ahead and get started this week on the suggested upgrades.

Neil, I will incorporate your idea and add al ink at the bottom to view unread posts.

I will also fix the biography thing.

Anything else that is irking nayone that they want fixed?

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Re:Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #44 on: December 27, 2004, 02:59:14 PM »


I checked that out...would it be copyright infringement to use them here?

Not sure,
you got a link where I can check them out?

I actually have a new set of smilies to use after Old Calendar Xmas is o ver.

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Re: Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #45 on: December 27, 2004, 03:08:31 PM »
A online beer/beverage dispenser, por favor.

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Re:Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #46 on: December 27, 2004, 03:17:35 PM »
Not sure,
you got a link where I can check them out?

http://www.christianforums.com/t728777-seeking-orthodox-emoticonsmilie-ideas.html&page=2

And, as you can see, one's in my sig now...if you go through the (23-page!) thread, you'll see he/she does give permission to use these on other forums as long as we cite him/her.
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Re:Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #47 on: December 27, 2004, 03:18:43 PM »
I actually have a new set of smilies to use after Old Calendar Xmas is o ver.

Lookin' forward to 'em!
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Offline Donna Rose

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Re: Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #48 on: December 27, 2004, 04:40:08 PM »
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Neil, I will incorporate your idea and add al ink at the bottom to view unread posts.

OH so if I ask for it, I'm told to find another way, but if someone else asks for it, you're on top of it...I see how it is. ???
hmmmm...

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Re: Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #49 on: December 27, 2004, 04:47:57 PM »
Oh oh,

Beware a woman's scorn.

james(married 27years) oy vey
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Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, the good fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the difference.

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Re: Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #50 on: December 27, 2004, 07:54:09 PM »
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Neil, I will incorporate your idea and add a link at the bottom to view unread

OH so if I ask for it, I'm told to find another way, but if someone else asks for it, you're on top of it...I see how it is. ???

Donna,

It's because the Pope returned the Icon of the Theotokos and the Relics of Saint John Chrysostom.  Bob wanted to do something reciprocal for Catholics  ;).  It helps, too, that I promised to send him a platter of hummous, tabouli, fatayah, and kibbee, to enjoy after the Fast  O0.

Many years,

Neil
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Re: Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #51 on: December 28, 2004, 01:24:19 AM »
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A online beer/beverage dispenser, por favor.

I am inclined to agree with James on this one.

If you can make it happen, I would be indebted to you for filling my life (and glass) with happiness.   :D

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Re: Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #52 on: December 29, 2004, 01:46:49 PM »
Well, in the searchable Member List,
www.orthodoxchristianity.net/newboard/index.php?action=mlist
, you could strike the Position -column, but add Location as a column.

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Re: Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #53 on: January 02, 2005, 10:25:00 AM »
A request for us Netscape users,

Could you do something so that, when we put italics into a long message, it doesn't automatically throw the cursor all the way back up to the top of the message?

"Highlight...italics...dang it!...scroll down...highlight something else...italics...dang it!...scroll down..."  ;D
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Re: Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #54 on: January 02, 2005, 09:35:24 PM »
Quit wasting time, install that keg & tap, we're getting thirsty.

JB

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Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, the good fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the difference.

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Re: Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #55 on: January 05, 2005, 03:15:12 AM »
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Quit wasting time, install that keg & tap, we're getting thirsty.

You'd think the added benefits to all would speed this process up!  :D

with frosty mug in hand - waiting in eager anticipation,
Aaron

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Re: Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #56 on: January 05, 2005, 07:08:10 AM »
Is anybody else experiencing "No Unread Posts Since Your Last Visit", when you know there have to be (it's been 24 hrs since I was last here)?

Neil
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Re: Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #57 on: January 05, 2005, 11:49:55 AM »
No I always find like 14 or more unread after 24 hrs, it's working in Africa :D lol
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Re: Board Upgrade - Jan 1st
« Reply #58 on: January 10, 2005, 11:40:50 AM »
love the new smileys!  :book: hehehe
hmmmm...