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Re: I am Godless
« Reply #45 on: September 18, 2012, 02:41:36 PM »
I don't know if it's right to completely dismiss him as an attention whore, there maybe more going on in the background than we realize.

I agree with this. Judging from what he has told us, James haven't had what I would call the easiest childhood. There could be many reasons to why he is having these inner conflicts.

In America, we put such people on ice floes and tell them to figure it out and call it love.

Ice floes?  Lucky.  In my day, people were only given a piece of driftwood to hang on to.  Ice floe...pshaw!
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Re: I am Godless
« Reply #46 on: September 18, 2012, 02:42:46 PM »
The same goes for most women no matter their age. ;)

Let me tell you about this date I once had...
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Re: I am Godless
« Reply #47 on: September 18, 2012, 03:02:44 PM »
At least this thread taught me not to rush things when I enter the catechumenate, a valuable lesson.

Another lesson learnt from Trevor and James: Hyperdox Hermans get burnouts quickly, so don't overdo it.
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Re: I am Godless
« Reply #48 on: September 18, 2012, 03:27:41 PM »
The same goes for most women no matter their age. ;)

Let me tell you about this date I once had...

I could probably tell the same story...
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Re: I am Godless
« Reply #49 on: September 18, 2012, 03:55:03 PM »

....you are just meeting the wrong women.
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« Reply #50 on: September 18, 2012, 04:50:29 PM »

....you are just meeting the wrong women.
That wouldn't happen so much if the right women weren't already taken. :police:
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« Reply #51 on: September 18, 2012, 05:08:54 PM »

....you are just meeting the wrong women.

Yep.  Lots and lots of them.   :P
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« Reply #52 on: September 18, 2012, 05:11:03 PM »

....you are just meeting the wrong women.

Yep.  Lots and lots of them.   :P
It's getting harder these days to find a woman without alot of baggage.
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« Reply #53 on: September 18, 2012, 06:21:43 PM »
I imagine I will keep this a secret and still attend my Church, just so that my parents do not discover my godlessness and try to convert me back to Protestantism.

Probably a good idea, in my personal estimation.

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Re: I am Godless
« Reply #54 on: September 18, 2012, 06:30:08 PM »
I imagine I will keep this a secret and still attend my Church, just so that my parents do not discover my godlessness and try to convert me back to Protestantism.

Probably a good idea, in my personal estimation.

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In the end, Anakin turned from the dark side, you know.

It is kind of a nerdy reference re: apostasy, however.
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Re: I am Godless
« Reply #55 on: September 18, 2012, 06:48:58 PM »
May the Lord have mercy on you for your blasphemies. I say this with all the sincerity I can possibly muster.
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Re: I am Godless
« Reply #56 on: September 18, 2012, 07:00:50 PM »
You are Godless?

Perhaps.

But you're also being a self-aggrandizing attention whore, but that's what a teenage boy is when he has something like the internet at his disposal.  Knock it off and grow up.

Oh, and Carl, we had little to do with this.  Many of us saw this coming from a mile away and he would've done this no matter who he had contact with.  The only person who should shoulder any blame other than James himself is his priest who baptised this immature child without much of a support network, but I'm sure he already knows that.

This doesn't help at all. All posts like this do is fuel the fire.

And all the coddling has done what? 

Tough love situation, folks. 

Precisely.

First he was on his way to becoming a Bishop, then he hated Protestants and this led to him wanting to marry an Orthodox, Catholic or Atheist girl but not a Protestant because at least the atheist would be good in bed, then he became horny, then he got mad that God "made" us horny but wouldn't let us fornicate, then he turned into a Communist, now he's a horny malatheist communard.

The best thing we all can do is stop giving him the attention and let him think things through.

Thus I propose we derail the attention-thread.



Hey Marc, I hear Isa was saying that there are maps that prove that the paleo diet is bogus.



There.  That should do it.

O rats. I was going to do the Paleo diet! What now? Are there any map-supported diets? Isa, help!
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Re: I am Godless
« Reply #57 on: September 18, 2012, 07:34:10 PM »

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Re: I am Godless
« Reply #58 on: September 19, 2012, 02:45:05 AM »
Well... this is a real wake-up call for me and I imagine other catechumens who have been struggling lately.  :o Lord have mercy...
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« Reply #59 on: September 19, 2012, 04:20:03 AM »
Well... this is a real wake-up call for me and I imagine other catechumens who have been struggling lately.  :o Lord have mercy...
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Re: I am Godless
« Reply #60 on: September 19, 2012, 06:16:48 AM »
I do wonder if we somehow contributed to this. Lord have mercy!

Do you think there should be an age limit or moratorium on 500 words + confession posts?

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Re: I am Godless
« Reply #61 on: September 20, 2012, 09:33:28 PM »
This is very disheartening, I hope you will find your way James.

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Re: I am Godless
« Reply #62 on: September 20, 2012, 09:38:18 PM »

....you are just meeting the wrong women.

Yep.  Lots and lots of them.   :P
It's getting harder these days to find a woman without alot of baggage.
...especially at the airport.
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Re: I am Godless
« Reply #63 on: September 20, 2012, 09:45:12 PM »
These threads never end well. Or... um... begin well. Nevermind.

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Re: I am Godless
« Reply #64 on: September 20, 2012, 09:51:01 PM »
This one reminded me of the book of Job, Where all the friends try and explain his problems.When all they really can do is just be there for him.
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Re: I am Godless
« Reply #65 on: September 20, 2012, 10:50:25 PM »
Good. Christianity does not need a ¨Christian¨ like you anyways.

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« Reply #66 on: September 20, 2012, 10:59:19 PM »
Good. Christianity does not need a ¨Christian¨ like you anyways.
O rly?
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Re: I am Godless
« Reply #67 on: September 20, 2012, 10:59:47 PM »
No. Com'on, that's garbage, Green Umbrella. Even if JamesR were just looking for attention or whatever, it's still not a good thing that this is happening. Christianity may not "need" a person like James (an odd idea), but a person like James certainly needs Christianity. A person like me does, too. We all do.

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« Reply #68 on: September 20, 2012, 11:00:05 PM »
Good. Christianity does not need a ¨Christian¨ like you anyways.
O rly?

Yeah, really.

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« Reply #69 on: September 20, 2012, 11:02:22 PM »
Good. Christianity does not need a ¨Christian¨ like you anyways.
O rly?

Yeah, really.
And you come to this conclusion how?
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Re: I am Godless
« Reply #70 on: September 20, 2012, 11:09:29 PM »
Good. Christianity does not need a ¨Christian¨ like you anyways.

That is not for you to decide unless you are a bishop, invested with the power to bind and loose.
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« Reply #71 on: September 20, 2012, 11:22:34 PM »
Sometimes I feel like the meekness on this forum is a bit much.

James said he believes in God but hates Him and loves Satan. It does not get more blasphemous than that. Someone get out the fire and brimstone!
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« Reply #72 on: September 20, 2012, 11:23:26 PM »
Sometimes I feel like the meekness on this forum is a bit much.

James said he believes in God but hates Him and loves Satan. It does not get more blasphemous than that. Someone get out the fire and brimstone!
Better than hubris.

And really his comment was completely uncalled for.
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Re: I am Godless
« Reply #73 on: September 20, 2012, 11:23:36 PM »
Good. Christianity does not need a ¨Christian¨ like you anyways.

Christianity doesn't "need" anyone. We need Christianity.

I'm going to need this.

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« Reply #74 on: September 20, 2012, 11:24:53 PM »
Sometimes I feel like the meekness on this forum is a bit much.

James said he believes in God but hates Him and loves Satan. It does not get more blasphemous than that. Someone get out the fire and brimstone!
Better than hubris.

And really his comment was completely uncalled for.

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« Reply #75 on: September 20, 2012, 11:25:44 PM »
Sometimes I feel like the meekness on this forum is a bit much.

James said he believes in God but hates Him and loves Satan. It does not get more blasphemous than that. Someone get out the fire and brimstone!
Better than hubris.

And really his comment was completely uncalled for.

Also, Achronos, would you like your money by mail or PayPal?
LOL did we wager a bet on him?
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« Reply #76 on: September 20, 2012, 11:38:24 PM »
Good. Christianity does not need a ¨Christian¨ like you anyways.
O rly?

Yeah, really.
And you come to this conclusion how?

Well, let us see. He says God is unfair. No, he goes beyond that and says he ¨hates¨ God. He says Satan is not such a bad guy. He says God is a ¨tyrant¨ He says he wishes he was the one who could have crucified God. He says God is a ¨monster¨

Yes I understand him perfect. He wants to move God to the side so he can go do whatever he wants. We are all...¨weak minded people and senile old folks¨ and he is  ¨more intelligent than 90% of people my age and many people older than me..¨ and blah, blah, blah.

So yeah. I have no trouble say we do not need Christians like him. I do not anyways.


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« Reply #77 on: September 20, 2012, 11:44:38 PM »
Glad to see when the prodigal son comes back you won't be there with open arms.
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« Reply #78 on: September 20, 2012, 11:45:17 PM »
Good. Christianity does not need a ¨Christian¨ like you anyways.
O rly?

Yeah, really.
And you come to this conclusion how?

Well, let us see. He says God is unfair. No, he goes beyond that and says he ¨hates¨ God. He says Satan is not such a bad guy. He says God is a ¨tyrant¨ He says he wishes he was the one who could have crucified God. He says God is a ¨monster¨

Yes I understand him perfect. He wants to move God to the side so he can go do whatever he wants. We are all...¨weak minded people and senile old folks¨ and he is  ¨more intelligent than 90% of people my age and many people older than me..¨ and blah, blah, blah.

So yeah. I have no trouble say we do not need Christians like him. I do not anyways.

Then its a good thing it doesn't matter at all what you "need" in the context of someone else's salvation.

Also saying what you've said can only serve to worsen James' state of mind. Anyone trying to drive someone who is already despairing and in pain away from Christianity is exactly the WORST thing you could be doing, its completely satanic.
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Re: I am Godless
« Reply #79 on: September 20, 2012, 11:57:05 PM »
Glad to see when the prodigal son comes back you won't be there with open arms.

Oh I love a prodigal son as much as the next, but that is not where this person is right now. Quite the opposite actually.

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« Reply #80 on: September 21, 2012, 12:01:11 AM »
Glad to see when the prodigal son comes back you won't be there with open arms.

Oh I love a prodigal son as much as the next, but that is not where this person is right now. Quite the opposite actually.
Trust me, he will be back.

I sympathize with biro alot more now.
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« Reply #81 on: September 21, 2012, 12:09:34 AM »
Good. Christianity does not need a ¨Christian¨ like you anyways.
O rly?

Yeah, really.
And you come to this conclusion how?

Well, let us see. He says God is unfair. No, he goes beyond that and says he ¨hates¨ God. He says Satan is not such a bad guy. He says God is a ¨tyrant¨ He says he wishes he was the one who could have crucified God. He says God is a ¨monster¨

Yes I understand him perfect. He wants to move God to the side so he can go do whatever he wants. We are all...¨weak minded people and senile old folks¨ and he is  ¨more intelligent than 90% of people my age and many people older than me..¨ and blah, blah, blah.

So yeah. I have no trouble say we do not need Christians like him. I do not anyways.

Then its a good thing it doesn't matter at all what you "need" in the context of someone else's salvation.

Also saying what you've said can only serve to worsen James' state of mind. Anyone trying to drive someone who is already despairing and in pain away from Christianity is exactly the WORST thing you could be doing, its completely satanic.

No, what is Satanic is someone making excuses for someone who makes hate filled ranting posts against God.

Hey JamesR, you think you are so smart, you are not. You think you have the market covered on suffering, you do not. You think you are the only one who has to fight against passions, you are not. You think you are the only one who can make ranting post that you know many people will find offensive and insensitive, you are not. You are not special buddy. You hate God and want to rant against him, get lost. We do not want to hear it.

 

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« Reply #82 on: September 21, 2012, 12:13:51 AM »
When it's raining on me, I won't opt for that green umbrella because it won't give me shelter from the storm.
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« Reply #83 on: September 21, 2012, 12:14:23 AM »
I haven't made any excuses at all for James.

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« Reply #84 on: September 21, 2012, 12:28:10 AM »
I haven't made any excuses at all for James.

I hope not. Look at what he says...

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Hell, I wish I was the one who could have crucified Him--it would be good payback for all the crap He let me go through.

Hey JamesR, I saw a 32 year old woman die of breast cancer several years ago. What do you think she went through? I know a 41 year old woman dying of cancer right now with her two young children staying by her bed at night. Oh, but God is unfair to you and a tyrant because you can not fornicate.  ::)
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Re: I am Godless
« Reply #85 on: September 21, 2012, 08:47:57 AM »
How old are you Green_Umbrella?

I'm going to need this.

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« Reply #86 on: September 21, 2012, 09:18:27 AM »
How old are you Green_Umbrella?

What Church do you belong to?

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« Reply #87 on: September 21, 2012, 10:32:58 AM »
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« Reply #88 on: September 21, 2012, 10:36:46 AM »
Good. Christianity does not need a ¨Christian¨ like you anyways.
O rly?

Yeah, really.
And you come to this conclusion how?

Well, let us see. He says God is unfair. No, he goes beyond that and says he ¨hates¨ God. He says Satan is not such a bad guy. He says God is a ¨tyrant¨ He says he wishes he was the one who could have crucified God. He says God is a ¨monster¨

Yes I understand him perfect. He wants to move God to the side so he can go do whatever he wants. We are all...¨weak minded people and senile old folks¨ and he is  ¨more intelligent than 90% of people my age and many people older than me..¨ and blah, blah, blah.

So yeah. I have no trouble say we do not need Christians like him. I do not anyways.

Then its a good thing it doesn't matter at all what you "need" in the context of someone else's salvation.

Also saying what you've said can only serve to worsen James' state of mind. Anyone trying to drive someone who is already despairing and in pain away from Christianity is exactly the WORST thing you could be doing, its completely satanic.

No, what is Satanic is someone making excuses for someone who makes hate filled ranting posts against God.

Hey JamesR, you think you are so smart, you are not. You think you have the market covered on suffering, you do not. You think you are the only one who has to fight against passions, you are not. You think you are the only one who can make ranting post that you know many people will find offensive and insensitive, you are not. You are not special buddy. You hate God and want to rant against him, get lost. We do not want to hear it.

 

I think the kid is a total dweeb and all, but seriously, I can tell you from personal experience that when you tick off God enough He is more than capable of fighting His own battles.  I've gotten mad at God before.  I assure you, if he is worth saving or has the possibility of repentance, his life is going to go to shiite and he will have a choice - blame God further or unscrew himself. 
Das ist des Jägers Ehrenschild, daß er beschützt und hegt sein Wild, weidmännisch jagt, wie sich’s gehört, den Schöpfer im Geschöpfe ehrt.

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Re: I am Godless
« Reply #89 on: September 21, 2012, 10:38:22 AM »
Good. Christianity does not need a ¨Christian¨ like you anyways.
O rly?

Yeah, really.
And you come to this conclusion how?

Well, let us see. He says God is unfair. No, he goes beyond that and says he ¨hates¨ God. He says Satan is not such a bad guy. He says God is a ¨tyrant¨ He says he wishes he was the one who could have crucified God. He says God is a ¨monster¨

Yes I understand him perfect. He wants to move God to the side so he can go do whatever he wants. We are all...¨weak minded people and senile old folks¨ and he is  ¨more intelligent than 90% of people my age and many people older than me..¨ and blah, blah, blah.

So yeah. I have no trouble say we do not need Christians like him. I do not anyways.

Then its a good thing it doesn't matter at all what you "need" in the context of someone else's salvation.

Also saying what you've said can only serve to worsen James' state of mind. Anyone trying to drive someone who is already despairing and in pain away from Christianity is exactly the WORST thing you could be doing, its completely satanic.

No, what is Satanic is someone making excuses for someone who makes hate filled ranting posts against God.

Hey JamesR, you think you are so smart, you are not. You think you have the market covered on suffering, you do not. You think you are the only one who has to fight against passions, you are not. You think you are the only one who can make ranting post that you know many people will find offensive and insensitive, you are not. You are not special buddy. You hate God and want to rant against him, get lost. We do not want to hear it.
Speak for yourself, pal. >:( If you are actually a team of posters submitting posts under the same one user account, then a few people here want to hear about it, since such behavior will get you banned from this forum. Otherwise, you are just one poster representing your point of view and your point of view only.
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