"Jesus prayer"

[Anastasia1]

I have heard of the Jesus prayer, "Lord Jesus, Son of God, have mercy on, a sinner."  I learned this from Catholics but heard it was used in the EO churches.  Is this common in the OO churches?

[sheenj]

I have heard of the Jesus prayer, "Lord Jesus, Son of God, have mercy on, a sinner."  I learned this from Catholics but heard it was used in the EO churches.  Is this common in the OO churches?

I don't know about the others but it's not in the Syrian tradition. That shouldn't stop anyone from using it though; it's a very beautiful prayer, short and sweet, and to the point.

[Hiwot]

In the Ethiopian tradition we do not call the prayer the ' Jesus Prayer' if you say that people will think it is the Lord's Prayer the " Our Father" . we call the prayer we pray with the aide our prayer beads or with the lines of our fingers ' the Arrow prayer' it has lots of variety of forms but is usually prayed in the shortest form i.e. " Lord have mercy " Lord have mercy on me a sinner" 'Lord Jesus Christ have mercy on me!" "Lord Christ have mercy one me a sinner" "hear us O Lord, Our God and our Savior!"there are other versions of arrow prayers ' for the sake of Mary Christ have mercy on us!" and one can insert the name of a saint one chooses and pray that way also. it gets even shorter fervent calling out, "O Christ!" " O Lord!".

[Aram]

The Jesus Prayer is something I've only encountered from the EO, and to my knowledge is not a part of the Armenian tradition.

[dzheremi]

I've found some writings by modern Copts that mention that this is a good prayer to pray, such as some of the writings of HG Bishop Mettaous, but nothing that indicates that it is a part of Coptic tradition. Can anyone provide evidence of it being used historically in the Coptic Church?

[Salpy]

The simple phrase "Lord have mercy" ("Der voghormya") is definitely a part of the Armenian tradition and, as I understand it, that is the basic root of the Jesus Prayer.  Its usage, however, has not been as elaborately developed by our Church as it has been among the EO's.  

[Salpy]

I've found some writings by modern Copts that mention that this is a good prayer to pray, such as some of the writings of HG Bishop Mettaous, but nothing that indicates that it is a part of Coptic tradition. Can anyone provide evidence of it being used historically in the Coptic Church?

See EA's post here:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,12740.msg173806.html#msg173806

[Aram]

The simple phrase "Lord have mercy" ("Der voghormya") is definitely a part of the Armenian tradition and, as I understand it, that is the basic root of the Jesus Prayer.  Its usage, however, has not been as elaborately developed by our Church as it has been among the EO's.  

Der Voghormya is not the same thing as the Jesus Prayer. Maybe the same vague idea, but Armenians do not have the Jesus Prayer as it is constituted and understood in the EO world.

[Hiwot]

I've found some writings by modern Copts that mention that this is a good prayer to pray, such as some of the writings of HG Bishop Mettaous, but nothing that indicates that it is a part of Coptic tradition. Can anyone provide evidence of it being used historically in the Coptic Church?

See EA's post here:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,12740.msg173806.html#msg173806

thank you Salpy, the prayer beads are also called Mequtaria in Ethiopia as well literally translates as ' to count with' they come in numbers of 33,41, 64, 100 and more. but the first three are the most common ones.

the sound the beads make as the christian prays with them is said to be like thunder to the ears of demons although soft and soothing to the person who hears them

[Hiwot]

The simple phrase "Lord have mercy" ("Der voghormya") is definitely a part of the Armenian tradition and, as I understand it, that is the basic root of the Jesus Prayer.  Its usage, however, has not been as elaborately developed by our Church as it has been among the EO's. 

Der Voghormya is not the same thing as the Jesus Prayer. Maybe the same vague idea, but Armenians do not have the Jesus Prayer as it is constituted and understood in the EO world.

Edit Hi Aram, in Armenia, is there a prayer bead used by the monks?

[dzheremi]

Thanks, Salpy. I know that the prayer rope is a part of the Coptic tradition, but I was asking about the Jesus Prayer. Like EA writes there, it is more common to use to pray the 41 Kyrie eleisons with it, not the Jesus Prayer.

[Aram]

The simple phrase "Lord have mercy" ("Der voghormya") is definitely a part of the Armenian tradition and, as I understand it, that is the basic root of the Jesus Prayer.  Its usage, however, has not been as elaborately developed by our Church as it has been among the EO's. 

Der Voghormya is not the same thing as the Jesus Prayer. Maybe the same vague idea, but Armenians do not have the Jesus Prayer as it is constituted and understood in the EO world.

Edit Hi Aram, in Armenia, is there a prayer bead used by the monks?

No. Armenian culture includes worry beads, which is borrowed from other middle eastern cultures, but there isn't really a religious connotation there. We don't really have a tradition of prayer ropes or beads.

[Hiwot]

The simple phrase "Lord have mercy" ("Der voghormya") is definitely a part of the Armenian tradition and, as I understand it, that is the basic root of the Jesus Prayer.  Its usage, however, has not been as elaborately developed by our Church as it has been among the EO's. 

Der Voghormya is not the same thing as the Jesus Prayer. Maybe the same vague idea, but Armenians do not have the Jesus Prayer as it is constituted and understood in the EO world.

Edit Hi Aram, in Armenia, is there a prayer bead used by the monks?

No. Armenian culture includes worry beads, which is borrowed from other middle eastern cultures, but there isn't really a religious connotation there. We don't really have a tradition of prayer ropes or beads.

Thank you Aram, I did not know that.

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