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The Royal Society of Physicians is getting ready for an exhibition on his life and work


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The x-ray imaging commissioned for the exhibition reveals that Dee was originally standing in a circle of human skulls. Why Glindoni painted them out is unknown, but Birkwood said it was easy to imagine it was on the instructions of the probably unnerved person who commissioned it.

The Royal Society wants people to remember him as an early scientist more than as an occultist who thought he could conjure angels.

My response is that one could say similar things about Newton. One thing you can say about Dee and not Newton, though, is that Dee in his capacity of adviser to Queen Elizabeth I was the first person to propose the concept of an overseas British Empire (and thus has centuries of blood on his hands, but never mind...)

I did like this part, though:

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Dee’s library of 4,000 volumes was one of the biggest and most remarkable in Europe and he seems to have read everything, diligently digesting and questioning all of it.

Dee clearly became frustrated that an account of the Trojan War by Dictys Cretensis omitted the best bit of the story. In one margin he wrote: “Nihil hic de equo Troiano,” which might be roughly translated today as “where’s the horse?”
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It's a pretty good metaphor for how some modern scientists like to whitewash (or simply ignore) their intellectual history.
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I'm actually surprised that John Dee was anything more for history than an occultist. I had never heard of this queen-counselling side of his.
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It's a pretty good metaphor for how some modern scientists like to whitewash (or simply ignore) their intellectual history.

Yep
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Should have kept the skulls.
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I'm actually surprised that John Dee was anything more for history than an occultist. I had never heard of this queen-counselling side of his.

That's because the sensational always survives longer than the mundane.
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Interesting painting. Thanks for sharing

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The only thing I knew about John Dee was that he was the original 007.  And that knowledge came from a video game... great post.
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The only thing I knew about John Dee was that he was the original 007.  And that knowledge came from a video game... great post.

Although this Serb may have been a bigger influence on Fleming's character design.
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The only thing I knew about John Dee was that he was the original 007.  And that knowledge came from a video game... great post.

And that game no doubt got it from the fact that often affixed this symbol to his signature:

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Interesting painting. Thanks for sharing

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