New rule on obscenity

[Carl Kraeff (Second Chance)]

Please check out the rule that was just posted on the Rules section (and I am also copying below for your convenience). Please be beware. Second Chance

* Obscenity, Blasphemy, Profanity, et al. -- Obscenities and blasphemies are not permitted anywhere on the forum. To accommodate strong polemics on the Private Forum, we will permit a few of the stronger scatological (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/scatological) profanities there. These words, however, will be permitted ONLY on the Private Forum; their use on the Public Forum is still forbidden. Other words such as "damn" and "hell", when used as expletives, will be permitted on all Public and Private boards as long as they're not used as part of a blasphemy. We reserve the right to moderate some language not on the list if it is way outside the bounds of common decency. If you're not sure about the appropriateness of a word or expression, please PM a moderator before using it on the forum.

Except for "BS," all acronyms (STFU, WTF, etc.), abbreviations (F-off, etc.), and semi-censored versions (F**K, BULLS**T, etc.) of forbidden words are also forbidden.  Quite simply, harsh, obscene, or foul language is not appropriate for an Orthodox Christian message board.  Our Lord is present even in the forums and we don't feel like hosting your foul language on our servers--free expression is one thing, but on a Christian message board you will have to act like a Christian even in a theoretically unmoderated sub-section of the board.

[Maria]

Please check out the rule that was just posted on the Rules section (and I am also copying below for your convenience). Please be beware. Second Chance

* Obscenity, Blasphemy, Profanity, et al. -- Obscenities and blasphemies are not permitted anywhere on the forum. To accommodate strong polemics on the Private Forum, we will permit a few of the stronger scatological (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/scatological) profanities there. These words, however, will be permitted ONLY on the Private Forum; their use on the Public Forum is still forbidden. Other words such as "damn" and "hell", when used as expletives, will be permitted on all Public and Private boards as long as they're not used as part of a blasphemy. We reserve the right to moderate some language not on the list if it is way outside the bounds of common decency. If you're not sure about the appropriateness of a word or expression, please PM a moderator before using it on the forum.

Except for "BS," all acronyms (STFU, WTF, etc.), abbreviations (F-off, etc.), and semi-censored versions (F**K, BULLS**T, etc.) of forbidden words are also forbidden.  Quite simply, harsh, obscene, or foul language is not appropriate for an Orthodox Christian message board.  Our Lord is present even in the forums and we don't feel like hosting your foul language on our servers--free expression is one thing, but on a Christian message board you will have to act like a Christian even in a theoretically unmoderated sub-section of the board.

Praise the Lord.

Glory to Jesus Christ! Glory forever.

Thanks be to God.

Yippee. Yahoo. Awesome. Thanks.

[does a happy dance]

[Carl Kraeff (Second Chance)]

For the record, this new policy had the input from all moderators--input that Father George masterfully synthesized into the finished product that you see.

[Fr. George]

You are far too kind; I've never had my use of Ctrl-X and Ctrl-V called "masterful" before!

[Maria]

You are far too kind; I've never had my use of Ctrl-X and Ctrl-V called "masterful" before!

It is the careful use of Ctrl-X and Ctrl-V that is so masterful.

Axios.

[Shiny]

I have a suggestion.

Why not automatically censor the words being used? Or have it so the word gets replaced with something like "blam!"?

[Maria]

I have a suggestion.

Why not automatically censor the words being used? Or have it so the word gets replaced with something like "blam!"?

Automatic censoring would work and we would not be offended.
Censored words could be replaced by [bless]
Thus the person would not benefit from cursing another as he would be blessing them. 
More importantly, mods would be able to detect that a violation and automatic tripping of the censor had occurred.

[Shiny]

And that's exactly what I had in mind.

I use vulgarities in my daily speech and sometimes it might slip once and awhile on this board.

Before you try to say change my ways, I won't. But it would be a nice filter just in case one slips up occasionally.

[Iconodule]

What the [theosis] is going on up in this [metanoia]?

[Shiny]

What the [theosis] is going on up in this [metanoia]?

Orthodox vocabulary would be an excellent filter!

[Maria]

What the [theosis] [metanoia] is going on up in this [metanoia]?

Orthodox vocabulary would be an excellent filter!

Fixed it for ya (FIFY).

The censor could create a lot of tautologies, but bolded words surrounded by brackets would notify posters that something was seriously amiss. This would enable them to fix it in a timely manner and save moderators a lot of time.

[Maria]

What is the Greek word for bless?

Perhaps that would be a good substitution for any cuss words that need to be filtered.

[Iconodule]

Because we all know how Greek has magical powers that English doesn't.

[OrthoNoob]

Because we all know how Greek has magical powers that English doesn't.

Actually, it's just the opposite. English has magical powers because it was invented by witches.

[William]

I have a suggestion.

Why not automatically censor the words being used? Or have it so the word gets replaced with something like "blam!"?

"-blam!-"? What kind of stupid website would use that as a filter?

[Maria]

[Eleison] is another good Greek word. We all need mercy.

[vamrat]

One of the forums I used to frequent had it so that anytime you made the four letter scatalogical reference, whether it was preceded by a male bovine or not, [shivermetimbers].  That is my suggestion as I thought that was [hesychism]ing hilarious.

[Basil 320]

What is the Greek word for bless?

Perhaps that would be a good substitution for any cuss words that need to be filtered.

evloiete.  "Bless, Master," Is "Evlogison, Despota."

[Basil 320]

How about "freak'n," Carl, on the Private Forum>Politics, is that ok?

[Maria]

One of the forums I used to frequent had it so that anytime you made the four letter scatalogical reference, whether it was preceded by a male bovine or not, [shivermetimbers].  That is my suggestion as I thought that was [hesychism]ing hilarious.

There is the legitimate word "scat" when referring to cougar scat, coyote scat, and rabbit scats.
It is funny how that word is not considered offensive perhaps because it is more scientific.

However, I doubt that you would hear anyone saying, "I don't give a scat."

To the Mods: would scat be prohibited in the public forums?

[Maria]

One of the forums I used to frequent had it so that anytime you made the four letter scatalogical reference, whether it was preceded by a male bovine or not, [shivermetimbers].  That is my suggestion as I thought that was [hesychism]ing hilarious.

One of the forums I sometimes visit used to use [wash my mouth] for all blasphemies, profanities, and vulgar speech. Much could not be filtered. Sick people will try to avoid the filter by devious means in their attempt to shock people; such are true trolls.

Then the admins changed that automatic censor to [bless and do not curse]

Their filter is weird. For a vulgar four letter word, there would be a string of [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse].

Another forum used [repent] for any nasty words.

Still another forum would change the female word for dog to [dog]; Ass would be changed to [donkey]; gay would be changed to [homosexual], etc. That requires a lot of programming.

Inserting the same word filter is much easier on the Admin who is inputting all that data.

[Basil 320]

Add an "a" to "scat" and you have the Greek word for it.

[Maria]

Add an "a" to "scat" and you have the Greek word for it.

Are you saying that scat comes from the Greek scata?

Coyotes scatter their scata all over our hillsides.

Scatterbrained ... this word comes from the OE
I wonder if the ancient Greeks influenced the OE.

[PeterTheAleut]

I have a suggestion.

Why not automatically censor the words being used? Or have it so the word gets replaced with something like "blam!"?

That's discrimination against men named Dick!

[Maria]

I have a suggestion.

Why not automatically censor the words being used? Or have it so the word gets replaced with something like "blam!"?

That's discrimination against men named Dick!

Ah. It is very hard to censor that word. You cannot ban the lowercase version without banning the name Dick too. In politics, sometimes people will want to refer to Nixon as Tricky Dick.

With the censor in place, Tricky Dick will be come Tricky [bless and do not curse]

[dzheremi]

With the censor in place, Tricky Dick will be come Tricky [bless and do not curse]

I would have voted for that. Sounds trustworthy and Christian.

[Shiny]

I have a suggestion.

Why not automatically censor the words being used? Or have it so the word gets replaced with something like "blam!"?

That's discrimination against men named Dick!

We can just start calling them by their real name, Richard. BTW how did Dick ever come out of Richard anyway?

[Carl Kraeff (Second Chance)]

Why do the Brits have a dish called "spotted dick"?

I have the answer from the usually semi-reliable Wiki:

Spotted dick is a British steamed suet pudding containing dried fruit (usually currants) commonly served with custard. Spotted refers to the dried fruit (which resemble spots) and dick may be a contraction or corruption of the word pudding (from the last syllable) or possibly a corruption of the word dough[1] or dog, as "spotted dog" is another name for the same dish with the use of plums rather than currants. Another explanation offered for the word "dick" is that is the German word for "thick."

Check out the rest of the article for a sterling example of community standards. (Did you catch my use of "sterling"?)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotted_dick

[orthonorm]

I have a suggestion.

Why not automatically censor the words being used? Or have it so the word gets replaced with something like "blam!"?

That's discrimination against men named Dick!

We can just start calling them by their real name, Richard. BTW how did Dick ever come out of Richard anyway?

Well, I am not quite sure what you are asking . . .

But those crazy Brits like their richardlous rhymes.

Richard -> Rick -> Dick

[Carl Kraeff (Second Chance)]

I have a suggestion.

Why not automatically censor the words being used? Or have it so the word gets replaced with something like "blam!"?

At Intel School, one of the instructors used "rhubarb" as a one word substitute, as in "So, the rhubarb rhubarb rhubarb took hold of his rhubarb and blasted the rhubarb _____ to rhubarb pieces."

[orthonorm]

I have a suggestion.

Why not automatically censor the words being used? Or have it so the word gets replaced with something like "blam!"?

That's discrimination against men named Dick!

We can just start calling them by their real name, Richard. BTW how did Dick ever come out of Richard anyway?

Well, I am not quite sure what you are asking . . .

But those crazy Brits like their richardlous rhymes.

Richard -> Rick -> Dick

Cause I can't stop myself. Calling someone a dick is attested to in the English language long before dick becomes slang for penis.

Richard was such a common English name that it's colloquial nickname became a way of referring to just about any guy in a colloquial fashion.

So calling someone a dick isn't within the scope of the history of the English language a necessarily term of disparagement, quite the opposite.

[J Michael]

I have a suggestion.

Why not automatically censor the words being used? Or have it so the word gets replaced with something like "blam!"?

Why not just use proper English without obscenities or foul language?  Do it enough and it will become automatic and you won't have to abdicate personal responsibility to a mechanical censor.    Or, as in the above example, you can just say "Rhubarb" every time you want to say anything at all, and leave it at that.  Everyone else can make it mean whatever they want!! 

[Shiny]

Hey orthonorm. Is the F word the most interchangable word in the English language?

[orthonorm]

These "substitutions" in the attempt to stop people from acting like "adolescents" makes them into precocious grade schoolers instead.

Not
an
improvement.

Bottom line, this is adult speech. Some adults just can't use it well nor appreciate it when it is.

Never cared so much for lazily labeling any adult behavior as being [insert younger age group], cause it makes no sense. If adults do it, it is adult behavior. And it suggests that somehow adults have some monopoly on virtue.

They don't.

But neither do they have the market cornered on vice.

[orthonorm]

Hey orthonorm. Is the F word the most interchangable word in the English language?

At one time, in my mouth it certainly was.

I don't say it nearly as much as I used too. Which shocks many.

But still I do hit beautiful moments where it just finds itself wonderfully within the middle of another word.

I would say in some places it certainly carries the most semantic content of any word. (EDIT: It acts much like a (modal) particle.)

Middle class and above white people used to and sometimes wonder why I even use it at times.

They don't even understand the fact it carries endearment, even within certain American English speaking circles. Not nearly so prescribed as a certain other word which some adults can't seem to manage does in Australian English.

Another word, I am not shy of.

I do feel sorry for those people who find themselves labeling certain words as "bad" or "unusable".

[Shiny]

Yeah my parents wouldn't allow that language in the household, apparently it was the "Christian" thing to do. I love using the F word because it puts more emphasis in what I'm saying and I like to use it when I'm joking alot. How were these words even associated with bad, from a Christian perspective anyway? I just don't see how they are unclean.

[orthonorm]

Yeah my parents wouldn't allow that language in the household, apparently it was the "Christian" thing to do. I love using the F word because it puts more emphasis in what I'm saying and I like to use it when I'm joking alot. How were these words even associated with bad, from a Christian perspective anyway? I just don't see how they are unclean.

The connection to things sexual or "dirty" parts of the body, usually used in sex as well.

I understand the blaspheming part, but hey you can eat pork, but we are still going to pretend to have a sanctified language. (Don't quote the whole all things are allowed but not all edify.)

I wonder if calling someone scum or scumbag will fall under these rules (I am truly wondering, not complaining) cause you can usually tell someone's age by their reaction to these words.

Used to be banned on TV, radio, and used within the MPAA rating system. As scum was ejaculate and scumbag was used condom.

Then you get the loan words from Yiddish than more than a few of us use, like schmuck, which means foreskin.

EDIT: Again, not complaining, just wondering aloud, as I am fascinated with language especially English, which I think is the greatest language that has ever existed.

Yes. I said it.

[Shiny]

Yeah that makes alot of sense, nothing I disagree with.

When I started taking Spanish classes, I had a much more deeper appreciation of the English language and I realized just how inferior other languages are. English is just beautiful, but I do like Spanish only when it is sung.

[Maria]

Entering words into a word filter can be tricky. The Admin doing so must be careful as funny things can happen.

I remember posting "association" and seeing this: [repent]ociation.

Then at another forum, someone asked a question about etiquette:
"Is it more proper to eat apple pie a la mode with a spoon or a fork?"

The filter changed the text to read: Is it more proper to eat apple pie a la mode with a s[repent] or with a fork?

What can be hilarious is when a substitute word is used by the filter.

For example, someone posted the words of an old song:

Perry Como sang, "I feel so gay."
The filter changed the words to, "I feel so homosexual."

[Shiny]

If we can find a way to filter Isa's post directly anytime anal sex is brought up in a discussion, that would be the best thing ever.

[Maria]

If we can find a way to filter Isa's post directly anytime anal sex is brought up in a discussion, that would be the best thing ever.

I agree. He seems obsessed with such obscene topics, but hey, you just had to open the door for him to make his expected comment. Counting 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

[sheenj]

If we can find a way to filter Isa's post directly anytime anal sex is brought up in a discussion, that would be the best thing ever.

I'm soooo going to need context on this.

[Shiny]

If we can find a way to filter Isa's post directly anytime anal sex is brought up in a discussion, that would be the best thing ever.

I'm soooo going to need context on this.

The hilarity starts here:
http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,46830.0.html

He's made plenty of heated vehement arguments over anal sex on this board.

[sheenj]

If we can find a way to filter Isa's post directly anytime anal sex is brought up in a discussion, that would be the best thing ever.

I'm soooo going to need context on this.

The hilarity starts here:
http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,46830.0.html

Wow, the amount of butt hurt on that thread was hilarious, and slightly ironic given the topic.

[mike]

When I started taking Spanish classes, I had a much more deeper appreciation of the English language and I realized just how inferior other languages are. English is just beautiful, but I do like Spanish only when it is sung.

Keep convincing yourself...

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