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« on: August 28, 2012, 01:07:19 AM »

Before anyone says "But only Orthodoxy is true, who cares what they believe about you after death", I just think this would be a little interesting to me.

So being an Orthodox Christian, how well does my afterlife forecast look in other religions? Like Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, etc.? Because I don't see any other religion "dooming people to Hell" like Christianity. (I know that's a grotesque observation but for the sake of discussion...)
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« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2012, 01:10:05 AM »

Before anyone says "But only Orthodoxy is true, who cares what they believe about you after death", I just think this would be a little interesting to me.

So being an Orthodox Christian, how well does my afterlife forecast look in other religions? Like Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, etc.? Because I don't see any other religion "dooming people to Hell" like Christianity. (I know that's a grotesque observation but for the sake of discussion...)
Not sure about the others. But in Islam you will endure very grotesque physical torments for eternity. There is even one account in the Quran, AFAIK, where God taunts the hell-bounded Christians for believing in the Trinity.
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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2012, 01:11:53 AM »

Before anyone says "But only Orthodoxy is true, who cares what they believe about you after death", I just think this would be a little interesting to me.

So being an Orthodox Christian, how well does my afterlife forecast look in other religions? Like Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, etc.? Because I don't see any other religion "dooming people to Hell" like Christianity. (I know that's a grotesque observation but for the sake of discussion...)
Not sure about the others. But in Islam you will endure very grotesque physical torments for eternity. There is even one account in the Quran, AFAIK, where God taunts the hell-bounded Christians for believing in the Trinity.
Whoa seriously? Can you quote specific verses from the Quran?
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« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2012, 01:14:27 AM »

Before anyone says "But only Orthodoxy is true, who cares what they believe about you after death", I just think this would be a little interesting to me.

So being an Orthodox Christian, how well does my afterlife forecast look in other religions? Like Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, etc.? Because I don't see any other religion "dooming people to Hell" like Christianity. (I know that's a grotesque observation but for the sake of discussion...)
Not sure about the others. But in Islam you will endure very grotesque physical torments for eternity. There is even one account in the Quran, AFAIK, where God taunts the hell-bounded Christians for believing in the Trinity.
Whoa seriously? Can you quote specific verses from the Quran?
Lots of the Quran is on hell.  The Hadith reports go into much more detail on that.
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« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2012, 01:16:11 AM »

In Buddhism and Hinduism you'd just be reincarnated. In Judaism you'd go to Heaven as it's more or less universalist.
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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2012, 01:26:32 AM »

But reincarnated into what? A frog?
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« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2012, 01:28:35 AM »

In Odinism you could get into the Golden Hall if you kill a bunch of b****es bravely.  Or perhaps you'd get chosen by Freyja to 'keep her company'.  Either way, if this weren't a false heathen religion I could definitely get behind the Norse afterlife.
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« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2012, 02:01:29 AM »

Before anyone says "But only Orthodoxy is true, who cares what they believe about you after death", I just think this would be a little interesting to me.

So being an Orthodox Christian, how well does my afterlife forecast look in other religions? Like Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, etc.? Because I don't see any other religion "dooming people to Hell" like Christianity. (I know that's a grotesque observation but for the sake of discussion...)
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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2012, 02:06:07 AM »

Before anyone says "But only Orthodoxy is true, who cares what they believe about you after death", I just think this would be a little interesting to me.

So being an Orthodox Christian, how well does my afterlife forecast look in other religions? Like Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, etc.? Because I don't see any other religion "dooming people to Hell" like Christianity. (I know that's a grotesque observation but for the sake of discussion...)
Islam: Probably some sort of People of the Book pardon.


The Quran disagrees with this assessment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjytT49ZyXY
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« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2012, 02:25:29 AM »

Before anyone says "But only Orthodoxy is true, who cares what they believe about you after death", I just think this would be a little interesting to me.

So being an Orthodox Christian, how well does my afterlife forecast look in other religions? Like Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, etc.? Because I don't see any other religion "dooming people to Hell" like Christianity. (I know that's a grotesque observation but for the sake of discussion...)
Islam: Probably some sort of People of the Book pardon.


The Quran disagrees with this assessment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjytT49ZyXY

The Quran disagrees with the concept of the People of the Book?
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« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2012, 03:22:46 AM »

Before anyone says "But only Orthodoxy is true, who cares what they believe about you after death", I just think this would be a little interesting to me.

So being an Orthodox Christian, how well does my afterlife forecast look in other religions? Like Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, etc.? Because I don't see any other religion "dooming people to Hell" like Christianity. (I know that's a grotesque observation but for the sake of discussion...)
Islam: Probably some sort of People of the Book pardon.


The Quran disagrees with this assessment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjytT49ZyXY

That's a very... "physical" hell.
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« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2012, 03:25:24 AM »

Before anyone says "But only Orthodoxy is true, who cares what they believe about you after death", I just think this would be a little interesting to me.

So being an Orthodox Christian, how well does my afterlife forecast look in other religions? Like Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, etc.? Because I don't see any other religion "dooming people to Hell" like Christianity. (I know that's a grotesque observation but for the sake of discussion...)
Islam: Probably some sort of People of the Book pardon.


The Quran disagrees with this assessment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjytT49ZyXY

That's a very... "physical" hell.

Quotes went too fast for me to read, and I wasn't pausing it every 2 seconds...  (though Christian hell is physical as well  angel )
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« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2012, 03:27:18 AM »

Here, have a look at the Hindu hell  Shocked

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Reminds me of the Apocalypse of Peter  angel
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(though Christian hell is physical as well  angel )

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« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2012, 03:44:26 AM »

In Judaism there is no Heaven or Hell. You just obey God and in return enjoy a peaceful life on Earth. When you die you go to the place of the dead like everyone else and that is it. Your life on Earth is really the only thing that your decisions affect. In Islam, you can go to Hell, but Hell is not considered eternal. In the end it is believed that everyone will be united to Allah. In Hinduism, you would just keep getting reincarnated and I do not know what comes after that. In Buddhism you will keep being reincarnated until you achieve enlightenment and enter into Nirvana. As to what Nirvana exactly is, no one really knows. Buddhism is a pretty obscure, confusing religion that is very mysterious about these types of things.
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« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2012, 03:54:36 AM »

In Judaism there is no Heaven or Hell.

While there is disagreement whether there is a hell, there clearly is a heaven. Judaism teaches "All Israel has a share in the World to Come". The World to Come, or Olam Haba in Hebrew, clearly is a concept of heaven. It is for all Jews, as well as righteous non-Jews.
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In Judaism there is no Heaven or Hell.

While there is disagreement whether there is a hell, there clearly is a heaven. Judaism teaches "All Israel has a share in the World to Come". The World to Come, or Olam Haba in Hebrew, clearly is a concept of heaven. It is for all Jews, as well as righteous non-Jews.

That 'world to come' is the Christian state of Heaven that Jesus brought along. But since Jews deny Jesus, they do not believe that this 'world to come' has arrived yet, therefore, they are still subject to Sheol, or 'the place of the dead' until this 'world to come' comes.
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« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2012, 04:36:24 AM »

The Jews believe that in the end of the days, there will be a World to Come. It is not related to the Jewish concept of the Messiah, whose actin circle will be this world. Also, the Jews believe that each of them has his place in the World to Come, so the don't see a need for a Redeemer, as we have in Christ.
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« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2012, 07:34:41 AM »

In Odinism you could get into the Golden Hall if you kill a bunch of b****es bravely.  Or perhaps you'd get chosen by Freyja to 'keep her company'.  Either way, if this weren't a false heathen religion I could definitely get behind the Norse afterlife.
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« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2012, 09:03:35 AM »

But reincarnated into what? A frog?

That would depend on how skillfully you use this human life.
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« Reply #22 on: August 28, 2012, 09:05:20 AM »

Before anyone says "But only Orthodoxy is true, who cares what they believe about you after death", I just think this would be a little interesting to me.

So being an Orthodox Christian, how well does my afterlife forecast look in other religions? Like Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, etc.? Because I don't see any other religion "dooming people to Hell" like Christianity. (I know that's a grotesque observation but for the sake of discussion...)
Not sure about the others. But in Islam you will endure very grotesque physical torments for eternity. There is even one account in the Quran, AFAIK, where God taunts the hell-bounded Christians for believing in the Trinity.

My favorite part is where Allah says he will burn the skin off of the people in hell with scalding hot water. But when that's over, he will give each person new skin and do it all over again... and again. OUCH.
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« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2012, 09:12:10 AM »

In Buddhism you will keep being reincarnated until you achieve enlightenment and enter into Nirvana. As to what Nirvana exactly is, no one really knows. Buddhism is a pretty obscure, confusing religion that is very mysterious about these types of things.

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The Pali word Nibbana is formed of Ni and Vana. Ni is a negative particle and Vana means lusting or craving. "It is called Nibbana, in that it is a departure from the craving which is called Vana, lusting." Literally, Nibbana means non-attachment.

It may also be defined as the extinction of lust, hatred and ignorance, "The whole world is in flames," says the Buddha. "By what fire is it kindled? By the fire of lust, hatred and ignorance, by the fire of birth, old age, death, pain, lamentation, sorrow, grief and despair it is kindled."

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Nibbana of the Buddhists is neither a mere nothingness nor a state of annihilation, but what it is no words can adequately express. Nibbana is a Dhamma which is "unborn, unoriginated, uncreated and unformed." Hence, it is eternal (Dhuva), desirable (Subha), and happy (Sukha).
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« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2012, 10:19:22 AM »

Before anyone says "But only Orthodoxy is true, who cares what they believe about you after death", I just think this would be a little interesting to me.

So being an Orthodox Christian, how well does my afterlife forecast look in other religions? Like Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, etc.? Because I don't see any other religion "dooming people to Hell" like Christianity. (I know that's a grotesque observation but for the sake of discussion...)
Not sure about the others. But in Islam you will endure very grotesque physical torments for eternity. There is even one account in the Quran, AFAIK, where God taunts the hell-bounded Christians for believing in the Trinity.

My favorite part is where Allah says he will burn the skin off of the people in hell with scalding hot water. But when that's over, he will give each person new skin and do it all over again... and again. OUCH.

That's a very physical hell  Shocked
Is there a... "spiritual" hell/punishment in Islam ? Like, deprived of God's love, etc ?
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(though Christian hell is physical as well  angel )

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Is there any particular reason that you think the "deprived of God's love" thing is more spiritual and less physical?
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i always thought Native American spirituality was like Abrahamic faiths..on eGreat Spirit. I'm not sure about the Happy Hunting ground though. I'd rather go to a Happy Dog Park and spend eternity with a couple of schnauzers.
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« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2012, 11:32:12 AM »

But reincarnated into what? A frog?

That would depend on how skillfully you use this human life.
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« Reply #29 on: August 28, 2012, 11:35:31 AM »

NVM!
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That's a very physical hell  Shocked
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Is there any particular reason that you think the "deprived of God's love" thing is more spiritual and less physical?

Faith ?
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« Reply #31 on: August 28, 2012, 11:53:35 AM »

NVM!
That's what Brahman said.
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That's a very physical hell  Shocked
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Is there any particular reason that you think the "deprived of God's love" thing is more spiritual and less physical?

Faith ?

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« Reply #33 on: August 28, 2012, 12:19:47 PM »

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Faith is something spiritual, no ? I mean, God's love comes by faith too (but not only, I mean, you need to have faith to "feel" God's love) ?

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong (I'm still learning  Grin )
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« Reply #34 on: August 28, 2012, 04:55:05 PM »

Before anyone says "But only Orthodoxy is true, who cares what they believe about you after death", I just think this would be a little interesting to me.

So being an Orthodox Christian, how well does my afterlife forecast look in other religions? Like Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, etc.? Because I don't see any other religion "dooming people to Hell" like Christianity. (I know that's a grotesque observation but for the sake of discussion...)
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