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Saints We Hold in Common...
« on: August 26, 2012, 06:46:37 AM »
Out of curiosity, which saints from after the mid-5th century do both Oriental and Eastern Orthodox accept as being saints (e.g. Sts. Maximos the Confessor, John of Damascus, etc.?)

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Re: Saints We Hold in Common...
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2012, 06:48:10 AM »
Saint Isaac of Nineveh ?

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Re: Saints We Hold in Common...
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2012, 12:13:03 PM »
St. Simeon the Stylite, St. John Climacus, St. Theodora, St. Daniel the Stylite (venerated by Armenian Orthodox, AFAIK), St. Marina (venerated by Chalcedonian RCs and Coptic Orthodox), Sts. John and Barsanuphius of Gaza.

The list goes on...
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« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2012, 07:57:01 PM »
Actually, I recently learned that the St. Daniel venerated by the Armenians in early December is another Daniel, who was one of the Desert Fathers in Egypt.   The book that said he was Daniel the Stylite was in error.

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« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2012, 07:59:26 PM »
Actually, I recently learned that the St. Daniel venerated by the Armenians in early December is another Daniel, who was one of the Desert Fathers in Egypt.   The book that said he was Daniel the Stylite was in error.
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Re: Saints We Hold in Common...
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2012, 03:54:25 PM »
Abba Isaiah of Scetis, the Spiritual Father of Sts. Barsanuphius and John

St. Jacob of Serugh

St. Arethas (al-Harith) & the Martyrs of Najran and the Ethiopian King Ellesbaas (Ella Atsbeha or Kaleb)

 
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« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2012, 04:28:29 PM »
St. Jacob of Serugh
I was not aware that the Eastern (Byzantine) Orthodox held up Mor Jacob of Serugh as a saint.
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« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2012, 08:18:15 AM »
St. Jacob of Serugh
I was not aware that the Eastern (Byzantine) Orthodox held up Mor Jacob of Serugh as a saint.

I came across this a while back,

St Jacob of Serug: The Theotokos and the Archangel
http://ancientfaith.com/podcasts/holyfathers/st_jacob_of_serug_the_theotokos_and_the_archangel
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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2012, 08:20:09 AM »
St. Mary of Egypt is another post-Chalcedonian Saint we both honor.
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« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2012, 01:46:10 PM »
St. Mary of Egypt is another post-Chalcedonian Saint we both honor.

Was she an OO or an EO?

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Re: Saints We Hold in Common...
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2012, 01:49:30 PM »
St. Mary of Egypt is another post-Chalcedonian Saint we both honor.

Was she an OO or an EO?

According to wikipedia she died in 421.
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« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2012, 02:21:36 PM »
According to wikipedia she died in 421.

Looks like there's some dispute on the date. My reading was from an EO site so that's why I assumed she was from the Sixth Century.

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There is disagreement among various sources regarding the dates of St. Mary's life. The dates given above correspond to those in the Catholic Encyclopedia. The Bollandists place her death in 421, others give the date of her death as 522 (see Orthodox Wiki article, below), or 530 (see Prolog from Ohrid, April 1). The only clue given in her Vita is the fact that the day of her repose was April 1, which is stated to be Holy Thursday, meaning that Easter fell on April 4 that year.

If one consults a perpetual calendar that is keyed to the Julian Calendar (the one in use at the time), one finds that there are 24 years[5] in the relevant centuries on which April 1 occurs on a Thursday.[6] Of these, the years on which Easter would fall on April 4 according to the Julian Calendar are: 443, 454, 527, 538, and 549.[7]

It is notable that the Synaxarion states that Zosimas lived during the reign of the Emperor Theodosius the Younger,[8] who reigned from 408 to 450. According to tradition, Zosimas lived almost a hundred years, dying in the sixth century, and the Vita states that he was fifty-three years old when he met St. Mary.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_of_Egypt
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