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With the hysteria over the arrest of a Christian girl with Down’s syndrome on a charge of blasphemy yet to blow over, the brutally tortured body of an 11-year-old Christian boy has been found in Pakistan’s Punjab province. The body of Samuel Yaqoob, was discovered with his lips and nose cut off, his stomach removed and his legs mutilated. According to police the body was later burned and could hardly be recognized. Relatives identified the corpse from a distinctive mark on the boy’s forehead. Read on - http://rt.com/news/boy-torture-pakistan-christian-440/ |
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With the hysteria over the arrest of a Christian girl with Down’s syndrome on a charge of blasphemy yet to blow over, the brutally tortured body of an 11-year-old Christian boy has been found in Pakistan’s Punjab province. The body of Samuel Yaqoob, was discovered with his lips and nose cut off, his stomach removed and his legs mutilated. According to police the body was later burned and could hardly be recognized. Relatives identified the corpse from a distinctive mark on the boy’s forehead. Read on - http://rt.com/news/boy-torture-pakistan-christian-440/But... but... those friendly-looking left-wing politicians told me Islam was the religion of peace. |
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Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ! Another martyr Saint in paradise Literally, a hell of a way to get there  stay blessed, habte selassie |
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Oh. My. Heavens. This is absolutely appalling. Lord have mercy. Another martyr Saint in paradise The sheer viciousness of the murder makes me wonder if attaining the exaulted status of a martyr was really worth it for this dear kid. Kyrie eleison. Gospodie pomilui. Yā Rabbu irḥam. |
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Oh. My. Heavens. This is absolutely appalling. Lord have mercy. Another martyr Saint in paradise The sheer viciousness of the murder makes me wonder if attaining the exaulted status of a martyr was really worth it for this dear kid. Kyrie eleison. Gospodie pomilui. Yā Rabbu irḥam. A martyr is someone that dies willingly for his faith, and I doubt this poor boy did, but he is a child and therefore sinless and there is a special place in paradise for children.  |
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Hopefully Islam will self destruct, not only because of what it does to non Muslims, but because it suppress' its own people as well. It's a religion of hatreds and revenge, which makes it the antithesis of Christianity where the peace of the Holy Spirit overcomes passion. |
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Lord have mercy on the boy, and all the suffering Christians of Pakistan. As to the perpetrators of this inhuman atrocity, blessed is He who will repay them as they have treated us. May they repent and be spared.
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Can no one on this forum ever just feel sorrow at the sins of the world, and the horrible sufferings people experience, instead of feeling hatred toward other human beings - who have the image of God in them, and are most certainly not animals.
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Can no one on this forum ever just feel sorrow at the sins of the world, and the horrible sufferings people experience, instead of feeling hatred toward other human beings - who have the image of God in them, and are most certainly not animals.
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Can no one on this forum whose name is JamesRottnek just comment on the situation discussed in this thread without turning the negative reaction towards the murderers into some kind of litmus test of our Christianity? Is it wrong to react negatively to the news of the mutilation and murder of a young child? Christ Jesus told us that it would be better for any who lead the young astray to be thrown into the sea, so how much worse will unrepentant child-murderers have it?
Again, may they repent and be spared, because I don't see how any appeal to the humanity that they long ago abandoned in favor of killing God's children will lessen the punishment that they will receive in the hereafter. To simply appeal to humanity...well, everyone who is in hell was also created in the image of God, weren't they? Our actions matter, murder is wrong, and God is both merciful and just.
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With the hysteria over the arrest of a Christian girl with Down’s syndrome on a charge of blasphemy yet to blow over, the brutally tortured body of an 11-year-old Christian boy has been found in Pakistan’s Punjab province. The body of Samuel Yaqoob, was discovered with his lips and nose cut off, his stomach removed and his legs mutilated. According to police the body was later burned and could hardly be recognized. Relatives identified the corpse from a distinctive mark on the boy’s forehead. Read on - http://rt.com/news/boy-torture-pakistan-christian-440/As a Punjabi and an Orthodox Church, this hurts me extra. اللہ رحم کر! Lord Have Mercy! |
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That's the biggest insult of all, the mockery of God's image that these animalistic actions represent. Actually calling them animals is an insult to animals since animals have no sins. They merely react according to their physical needs. No one knows though, when a 'spirit' of evil permeates the air what people are capable of doing, and without a doubt it's alive and well in that part of the world. Anyway these things are conceived and planned in Islam so Christians will get up and leave. There is no difference in what goes on now, than what went on at the beginning of the last century in Anatolia, right before the mass genocides and deportations. In Egypt, the police have been delaying responses to Christians when they're being attacked, in the same way they were doing in Turkey so that the Christians would get up and leave. In one recent case, the police car ran over some Christians protesting the burning of their church. This doesn't mean that Muslims of different sects aren't being attacked as well, but Christians tend to be the perfect scapegoats. I have been told it's because Christians are wealthier, and for that reason they call themselves the Jews of Egypt. I did read an article by someone who studied the situation and compared it to Germany before WWII. He said the Copts better get out of there, but as they say where to? There are ten million Copts and Egypt is their country, they have no other one. What nation is going to take in ten million people? All the Copts have is their prayers, and that's exactly what they do; they pray. |
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Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ! Lord have mercy. Could barely finish reading the article.
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Bad Word - muslims and Bad Word - islam the religion of peace God forgive me Whats wrong with them. Why are they so threatened by Christians. Don't they have any compassion, feelings, any conscience? This is an 11 year old child they did that to. WT Bad Word |
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The problem is you have many Muslims who will say this is not Islam.
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F - muslims and F - islam the religion of peace God forgive me Whats wrong with them. Why are they so threatened by Christians. Don't they have any compassion, feelings, any conscience? This is an 11 year old child they did that to. WTF I was thinking about this, and recalled that the Pakistani government complained to Greece about the illegals being sent back to them. Pakistan doesn't want them back, so attacking a Christian child to force Christians to leave Pakistan, might be in retaliation. I guess its an Islamic tit for tat. Islamists have a history of retaliating on people that have no connection with their grievances. The Pakistanis are being persecuted in Greece since the people are suffering and can't feed the half million illegals. They've been taking their anger out on them for having contributed to the situation. In return, the Pakis are now killing the people they rob, which of course makes the Greeks angrier.  |
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The problem is you have many Muslims who will say this is not Islam.
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I just want to throw this out there, but the religion of this boy may not have been the reason. It is believed that he was raped and then murdered to cover up the crime. This happens surprisingly often. Usually to poor children, some of whom are Christian.
I'm not saying that this was not the reason, only that the "evidence" is somewhat lacking at the moment. The linked RT article drew very few concrete connections between the crime and the boy's faith, but simply used the backdrop of the recent blasphemy case to draw parallels. In my opinion, irresponsible journalism.
Regardless, appalling crime. Lord have mercy!
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I just want to throw this out there, but the religion of this boy may not have been the reason. It is believed that he was raped and then murdered to cover up the crime. This happens surprisingly often. Usually to poor children, some of whom are Christian.
I'm not saying that this was not the reason, only that the "evidence" is somewhat lacking at the moment. The linked RT article drew very few concrete connections between the crime and the boy's faith, but simply used the backdrop of the recent blasphemy case to draw parallels. In my opinion, irresponsible journalism.
Regardless, appalling crime. Lord have mercy!
People living in an area usually have an idea of what's going on, and the Christians there are starting to leave...as they did in Iraq, parts of Palestine and Egypt, as well as other places in the Middle East where Christians have been attacked. I can understand though why these things are not mentioned more in the Western press, since it does encourage hate crimes. It's unfortunate that the press in that part of the world, doesn't have the same ethics and standards. |
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I just want to throw this out there, but the religion of this boy may not have been the reason. It is believed that he was raped and then murdered to cover up the crime. This happens surprisingly often. Usually to poor children, some of whom are Christian.
I'm not saying that this was not the reason, only that the "evidence" is somewhat lacking at the moment. The linked RT article drew very few concrete connections between the crime and the boy's faith, but simply used the backdrop of the recent blasphemy case to draw parallels. In my opinion, irresponsible journalism.
Regardless, appalling crime. Lord have mercy!
People living in an area usually have an idea of what's going on, and the Christians there are starting to leave...as they did in Iraq, parts of Palestine and Egypt, as well as other places in the Middle East where Christians have been attacked. I can understand though why these things are not mentioned more in the Western press, since it does encourage hate crimes. It's unfortunate that the press in that part of the world, doesn't have the same ethics and standards. The Western press doesn't mention these things because the West has a confusing history of supporting the Islamists as you can see in the recent "revolutions" that have been popping up everywhere in the Middle East. The main reason why Christians are leaving Palestine is because of Zionist persecution. Before the fall of Hussein and the Egyptian Revolution, the relationship between Christians and Muslims was somewhat normal. |
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« Reply #38 on: August 26, 2012, 01:23:11 AM » |
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Before the fall of Hussein and the Egyptian Revolution, the relationship between Christians and Muslims was somewhat normal.
No. While recent events may have help fan the fires in the Middle East, they by no means created them. An example from Egypt about a couple years before September 11th, and several years before having entered Iraq: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosheh_MassacresHe does have a point, though. Men such as Hussein and Assad protected/protect the Christians in their countries. May God have mercy on the soul of Saddam, and may He grant Assad many victories. |
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It is an education process for me as I learn about the psychology of spiritual apostasy. And others get the benefit of perhaps hearing righteousness for the first time.
Blessed are the Peacemakers, for they shall be called the sons of God.
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« Reply #39 on: August 26, 2012, 05:58:31 PM » |
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He does have a point, though. Men such as Hussein and Assad protected/protect the Christians in their countries. May God have mercy on the soul of Saddam, and may He grant Assad many victories.
The Christian-Muslim relations still could not have been called "somewhat normal," even with the tyrants suppressing the Islamists. |
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« Reply #40 on: August 26, 2012, 06:15:48 PM » |
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Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ! He does have a point, though. Men such as Hussein and Assad protected/protect the Christians in their countries. May God have mercy on the soul of Saddam, and may He grant Assad many victories.
The Christian-Muslim relations still could not have been called "somewhat normal," even with the tyrants suppressing the Islamists. Exactly. However these things are complicated by the day to day conditions. Folks want to find security and stability, even at the cost of others security, because in all actuality, in life under despotism all bets are off stay blessed, habte selassie |
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"Yet stand aloof from stupid questionings and geneologies and strifes and fightings about law, for they are without benefit and vain." Titus 3:10
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« Reply #41 on: August 26, 2012, 07:26:51 PM » |
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Before the fall of Hussein and the Egyptian Revolution, the relationship between Christians and Muslims was somewhat normal.
No. While recent events may have help fan the fires in the Middle East, they by no means created them. An example from Egypt about a couple years before September 11th, and several years before having entered Iraq: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosheh_MassacresYes...I agree! I didn't say that these events created/started the attacks on Christians. But if you look at history, the really hard persecutions on the Copts didnt start till the early 80s (which I think is still fairly modern). If we were to go back in time...before the 70s, Christians and Muslims probably lived together in a SOMEWHAT peaceful situation. |
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Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Have Mercy Upon Me a Sinner!
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« Reply #42 on: August 26, 2012, 07:37:43 PM » |
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Lord have mercy!
animals.
Lord have mercy! I get what you're saying with the "animals" comment, but it's a societal problem of cognitive dissonance to call someone an "animal" or a "monster" when they do something evil. It's a way to put those people outside of human nature so people don't have to face up to the truth that we are all capable of great evil. Those people are made in the image of God just as their victim is. Lord have mercy on them and may this new martyr pray for us. |
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