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« on: August 20, 2012, 07:26:11 PM » |
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I've read that Catholics (at leastsome) believe sex is just for reproduction. What is our take on that?
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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2012, 07:48:43 PM » |
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It's also unitive.
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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2012, 07:48:58 PM » |
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I have made my opinion quite clear on this in the Dating/Marriage discussion. As for why, sometimes I find it is better to thank God than to continually asking Him why things are the way they are...  |
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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2012, 08:17:43 PM » |
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I've read that Catholics (at leastsome) believe sex is just for reproduction.
I've seen some inconsistency within Orthodox as well when it comes to this topic. I have heard the same argument from several preachers but I've always found that extreme and unrealistic  . I believe God made sex pleasurable and wonderful so we could enjoy it. Definitely God's design for sex and its place in human life ought to be beyond reproduction. St Paul said: 1 Corinthians 7:2-5 "But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband. The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. The wife's body does not belong to her alone but also to her husband. In the same way, the husband's body does not belong to him alone but also to his wife. Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control."[/b] I think this says it all  ! Definitely will like to hear what others say In christ, Bytania |
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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2012, 08:43:50 PM » |
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Hi bytania !
But then Saint Paul says :
1 Corinthians 7:6 "But I say this as a concession, not as a commandment".
What is the teaching of the Church ?
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« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2012, 08:57:58 PM » |
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I think Bill Nye once described sex as basically the proverbial carrot-on-a-stick to get organisms to reproduce. I doubt he would say God has anything to do with it, but it sounds legit.
But to take a pragmatic approach: The unitive aspect, IMO, is mostly in the sense that a it provides the organism with a stable source of sexual pleasure. That is, you don't need to run around chasing after mates every year like animals, because you are united in a stable relationship. Stable relationships tend to imply co-dependence and mutual obedience, which are things that help us in our struggle for holiness. In that roundabout sense it is important to marriage, for those who are called to that theotic (?) path.
I don't think it needs to be theologized beyond that. Relationships are all about choices and sex is not a bare necessity, as any impotent marriage can show you. Some seem to turn sex into some mystical communion with eternity or something, and that's just bizarre to me. That's not to take a low view of sex; it is what it is. It is a bodily function to be used in moderation, in a specific context, for specific purposes, just like eating and sleeping.
I would say the primary point of sex is reproduction, and unity is a natural part of it. I don't think the two can be rightly separated.
Those are my random musings on the subject.
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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2012, 09:04:22 PM » |
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The answer is simple, because He loves us and wants us to be happy. I really pitty all of the frigid and impotents out there that do not understand this. It is even worse when they try to rob the rest of us of our joy.
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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2012, 09:37:26 PM » |
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Hi bytania !
But then Saint Paul says :
1 Corinthians 7:6 "But I say this as a concession, not as a commandment".
What is the teaching of the Church ?
Even if he said it as a concession, what difference does it make? Its his advice to us (like many of the letters he wrote). As far the teaching of the Church goes, sexuality must be reigned in, and restricted to the confines of marriage. That's what's agreed upon. Whether for reproduction or pleasure, the Bible does not try to portray sex as a sin as long as it is confined within marriage. I'm sure others can say more. The answer is simple, because He loves us and wants us to be happy. I really pitty all of the frigid and impotents out there that do not understand this. It is even worse when they try to rob the rest of us of our joy.
!! Can we enjoy ONE thing without trying to prove it as a sinful act. Geez lol |
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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2012, 10:03:12 PM » |
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The answer is simple, because He loves us and wants us to be happy. I really pitty all of the frigid and impotents out there that do not understand this. It is even worse when they try to rob the rest of us of our joy.
!! Can we enjoy ONE thing without trying to make it a sin NO! The smile is satan's piano! |
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It is an education process for me as I learn about the psychology of spiritual apostasy. And others get the benefit of perhaps hearing righteousness for the first time.
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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2012, 10:08:46 PM » |
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The answer is simple, because He loves us and wants us to be happy. I really pitty all of the frigid and impotents out there that do not understand this. It is even worse when they try to rob the rest of us of our joy.
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