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« Reply #45 on: August 21, 2012, 01:22:34 AM » |
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Adam and Eve were married and they existed before controlling lust became an issue.
Were they married or were they cohabitating?  The Bible calls Eve Adam's wife in English at least. Good thing the Bible was written in English. Without my morning coffee in me yet pulling out the text in Greek would be pointless, but in man European languages the words for wife / woman and likewise man / husband are the same. I'm going to call BS on most of this thread. Marriage is a lot more than sex. If I were to make a list of the five most important aspects of marriage, I don't think sex would be included. To make a marriage work it takes humility, patience, understanding, communication and love - not the Hollywood fuzzy happy sort of stuff. How unchristian to develop these virtues. |
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« Reply #46 on: August 21, 2012, 01:34:34 AM » |
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Adam and Eve were married and they existed before controlling lust became an issue.
Were they married or were they cohabitating? The Bible calls Eve Adam's wife in English at least. Good thing the Bible was written in English. Without my morning coffee in me yet pulling out the text in Greek would be pointless, but in man European languages the words for wife / woman and likewise man / husband are the same. I'm referring to Genesis 2:24, which is about marriage according to the Gospels. |
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« Reply #47 on: August 21, 2012, 09:27:13 AM » |
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Adam and Eve were married and they existed before controlling lust became an issue.
Were they married or were they cohabitating? The Bible calls Eve Adam's wife in English at least. Good thing the Bible was written in English. Without my morning coffee in me yet pulling out the text in Greek would be pointless, but in man European languages the words for wife / woman and likewise man / husband are the same. I'm going to call BS on most of this thread. Marriage is a lot more than sex. If I were to make a list of the five most important aspects of marriage, I don't think sex would be included. To make a marriage work it takes humility, patience, understanding, communication and love - not the Hollywood fuzzy happy sort of stuff. How unchristian to develop these virtues. You are talking about virtues, I am talking about reasons. You can love outside of marriage. You just can't screw outside of marriage and still follow the religion. There is no canon or law or anything that tells me that I can only practice humility, patience, understanding, communication, and love within the confines of marriage. There are plenty of rules and regulations saying you cannot have sex with a woman you are not married to. |
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It is an education process for me as I learn about the psychology of spiritual apostasy. And others get the benefit of perhaps hearing righteousness for the first time.
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« Reply #48 on: August 21, 2012, 03:45:39 PM » |
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Adam and Eve were married and they existed before controlling lust became an issue.
Were they married or were they cohabitating? The Bible calls Eve Adam's wife in English at least. Good thing the Bible was written in English. Without my morning coffee in me yet pulling out the text in Greek would be pointless, but in man European languages the words for wife / woman and likewise man / husband are the same. I'm going to call BS on most of this thread. Marriage is a lot more than sex. If I were to make a list of the five most important aspects of marriage, I don't think sex would be included. To make a marriage work it takes humility, patience, understanding, communication and love - not the Hollywood fuzzy happy sort of stuff. How unchristian to develop these virtues. You are talking about virtues, I am talking about reasons. You can love outside of marriage. You just can't screw outside of marriage and still follow the religion. There is no canon or law or anything that tells me that I can only practice humility, patience, understanding, communication, and love within the confines of marriage. There are plenty of rules and regulations saying you cannot have sex with a woman you are not married to. Right, but these all develop with different nuances and subtleties between married life, monasticism and being single as a lay person. At least for me my experience of marriage has been something deeper than being "allowed" to have sex. |
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« Reply #49 on: August 21, 2012, 03:56:16 PM » |
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Nektapolic, what is your marriage like? If you don't mind me asking. How do you resolve your problems, deal with crazy feminine emotions and how/when did you know that your wife was the right woman to marry?
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"'Blessed are the peacemakers' For those are peacemakers in themselves who, in conquering and subjecting to reason all the motions of their souls and having their carnal desires tamed, have become in themselves a Kingdom of God."-St. Augustine of Hippo
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« Reply #50 on: August 21, 2012, 04:27:41 PM » |
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Nektapolic, what is your marriage like? If you don't mind me asking. How do you resolve your problems, deal with crazy feminine emotions and how/when did you know that your wife was the right woman to marry? Ah well, that sounds pretty misogynistic. One man at my Church said that women in Greece are desperate for American Orthodox men because of a dowry system or something and that if we made an add we would have hundreds of them trying to contact me. At first I thought he was joking but he was actually being serious. I have been in Greece. You don't want a Greek woman, believe me. My friends and I joked that that's the reason why there are so many monks in Greece. Don't feel offended if you're Greek  |
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« Reply #51 on: August 21, 2012, 04:52:52 PM » |
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And what "crazy feminine emotions" would those be, pray tell?  |
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« Reply #52 on: August 21, 2012, 05:17:42 PM » |
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Nektapolic, what is your marriage like? If you don't mind me asking. How do you resolve your problems, deal with crazy feminine emotions and how/when did you know that your wife was the right woman to marry?
Work on all of the Christian virtues, i.e humility, patience and love together. Good communication is essential. Be ready to sacrifice. |
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« Reply #53 on: August 21, 2012, 05:43:21 PM » |
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How do you resolve your problems, deal with crazy feminine emotions and how/when did you know that your wife was the right woman to marry?
How to tell if a girl is God's match for you, using the Bible: Is your girl a prostitute who abandoned you, spent all of your money, and had multiple sons by other men? |
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« Reply #54 on: August 21, 2012, 05:57:36 PM » |
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Nektapolic, what is your marriage like? If you don't mind me asking. How do you resolve your problems, deal with crazy feminine emotions and how/when did you know that your wife was the right woman to marry?
Dealing with emotions - you get used to them. Honestly. Selective hearing helps. I was in a relationship with a girl for the better part of three years. The key to our near success was the fact that we lived within walking distance of a bar. I don't know what I would have done without that bar. I still go there sometimes even though I live on the opposite end of town. |
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It is an education process for me as I learn about the psychology of spiritual apostasy. And others get the benefit of perhaps hearing righteousness for the first time.
Blessed are the Peacemakers, for they shall be called the sons of God.
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« Reply #55 on: August 21, 2012, 07:42:01 PM » |
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James,
Bachelorhood loses its je ne sais quoi after a while. Trust me.
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« Reply #56 on: August 21, 2012, 07:52:02 PM » |
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At what age would you let your child begin dating?
What is the purpose of dating in your opinion?
What is the purpose of marriage?
Why do I need to get married?
Also, on the rare chance that I do decide to get married, how should I bring my religion into it?
When I think they are ready, not one second before. To find a mate. To give honor and glory to God and pass that to your offspring. You don't, unless you really want to. You are young. Stop stressing about marriage. You better! Don't be unequally yoked. If you aren't ready to find a wife, don't date. |
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"Let it be understood that those who are not found living as He taught are not Christian- even though they profess with the lips the teaching of Christ." - Justin Martyr ( c.160 )
"we recognize that the war is ultimately spiritual rather than carnal." - Gebre Menfes Kidus
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« Reply #57 on: August 21, 2012, 07:56:10 PM » |
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Also, you may or may not figure out a specific female in some areas, but trust me, that only makes it harder. Let them be mysterious. Also, you will never understand them completely and they will never understand you completely.
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"Let it be understood that those who are not found living as He taught are not Christian- even though they profess with the lips the teaching of Christ." - Justin Martyr ( c.160 )
"we recognize that the war is ultimately spiritual rather than carnal." - Gebre Menfes Kidus
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