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Cincinnati, OH
« on: October 05, 2012, 11:06:16 AM »
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Re: Cincinnati, OH
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2012, 11:27:28 AM »
Information on the mission, plus a photo of the mission's priest, is in the latest entry at Oremus Blog for Roman Rite in Orthodoxy:

http://www.sarisburium.blogspot.com
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Re: Cincinnati, OH
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2012, 09:16:47 PM »
Why does it have to be on the west side of Cincinnati and not the east?  :'(

I should try to visit them sometime.
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Re: Cincinnati, OH
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2012, 09:22:54 PM »
Quote from: Melodist on October 22, 2012, 09:16:47 PM
Why does it have to be on the west side of Cincinnati and not the east?  :'(

Because it's Western-rite. Duh.
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Re: Cincinnati, OH
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2012, 09:24:27 PM »
Quote from: Melodist on October 22, 2012, 09:16:47 PM
Why does it have to be on the west side of Cincinnati and not the east?  :'(

I should try to visit them sometime.

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Re: Cincinnati, OH
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2012, 09:32:08 PM »
Quote from: witega on October 22, 2012, 09:22:54 PM
Quote from: Melodist on October 22, 2012, 09:16:47 PM
Why does it have to be on the west side of Cincinnati and not the east?  :'(
Because it's Western-rite. Duh.

You do have a point.
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Re: Cincinnati, OH
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2012, 09:34:39 PM »
Quote from: Fr.Aidan on October 22, 2012, 11:27:28 AM
Information on the mission, plus a photo of the mission's priest, is in the latest entry at Oremus Blog for Roman Rite in Orthodoxy:

http://www.sarisburium.blogspot.com
Those Mass photos are awesome. Love the altar.
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Re: Cincinnati, OH
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2012, 12:45:29 PM »
What exactly did you find awesome about the photos?
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Re: Cincinnati, OH
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2012, 02:52:18 PM »
Wow, interesting--I am proud of my hometown  :) Now if my family is curious about Orthodoxy at Christmas, I can just take them to this mission.
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Re: Cincinnati, OH
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2012, 02:54:35 PM »
Awesome!

I do wonder though why western rite parishes often hang up a few icons in front of the altar as some sort of small, see-through iconostasis. It would be the same as placing statues in an EC parish.

Quote from: Fr.Aidan on October 23, 2012, 12:45:29 PM
What exactly did you find awesome about the photos?

The fact that it looks so western.
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Re: Cincinnati, OH
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2012, 07:20:51 PM »
That is close. Very close. I'll have to visit. Me and orthonorm can chill.
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Re: Cincinnati, OH
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2012, 07:22:36 PM »
Quote from: Cyrillic on November 19, 2012, 02:54:35 PM
Awesome!

I do wonder though why western rite parishes often hang up a few icons in front of the altar as some sort of small, see-through iconostasis. It would be the same as placing statues in an EC parish.

No, icons are western.
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Re: Cincinnati, OH
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2012, 07:33:00 PM »
Quote from: Cyrillic on November 19, 2012, 02:54:35 PM
Awesome!

I do wonder though why western rite parishes often hang up a few icons in front of the altar as some sort of small, see-through iconostasis. It would be the same as placing statues in an EC parish.


Are you kidding me?!
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Re: Cincinnati, OH
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2012, 08:33:13 AM »
Quote from: biro on November 19, 2012, 07:33:00 PM
Are you kidding me?!

It was semi-serious. What's wrong with my statement, though? Icons don't really have a prominent place in the christian west.

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Quote from: Cyrillic on November 19, 2012, 02:54:35 PM
Awesome!

I do wonder though why western rite parishes often hang up a few icons in front of the altar as some sort of small, see-through iconostasis. It would be the same as placing statues in an EC parish.

No, icons are western.

Well, no. Not really. Perhaps it was extensively used in Italy for the 6th-10th century but that was because Italy was heavily influenced by the Byzantine Empire at the time.
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Re: Cincinnati, OH
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2012, 10:08:17 AM »
Excellent!  Many years!
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Re: Cincinnati, OH
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2012, 10:41:39 AM »
If I'm not mistaken, Fr. Joseph was pastor at St. Nicholas ACROD in NYC.  He and his wife are both very nice people.
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Re: Cincinnati, OH
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2012, 12:45:45 PM »
Yes, he's that Fr. Joseph Gingrich. And they are good folks.

Icons are deeply entrenched in the Western Church culture from the most ancient times, and not just as a "borrowing" from the East. But even if they WERE due to a "borrowing," the borrowing is a done deal, and they are still warp and woof of the Western Rite. The extensive use of iconography in the Anglo-Saxon church is well documented by St. Bede and others. The iconostasis began in the West. Etc. And during those years, all the way up to the Schism, sculpture was rather rare in both East and West, whereas flat iconography was commonplace.
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Re: Cincinnati, OH
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2012, 12:53:48 PM »
Quote from: Cyrillic on November 20, 2012, 08:33:13 AM
Well, no. Not really. Perhaps it was extensively used in Italy for the 6th-10th century but that was because Italy was heavily influenced by the Byzantine Empire at the time.

That is Italians didn't deem icons all that foreign but embraced them as their own.
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Re: Cincinnati, OH
« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2012, 02:06:15 PM »
Quote from: Fr.Aidan on November 20, 2012, 12:45:45 PM
Yes, he's that Fr. Joseph Gingrich. And they are good folks.

Icons are deeply entrenched in the Western Church culture from the most ancient times, and not just as a "borrowing" from the East. But even if they WERE due to a "borrowing," the borrowing is a done deal, and they are still warp and woof of the Western Rite. The extensive use of iconography in the Anglo-Saxon church is well documented by St. Bede and others. The iconostasis began in the West. Etc. And during those years, all the way up to the Schism, sculpture was rather rare in both East and West, whereas flat iconography was commonplace.

I had no idea he was interested in the Western rite.  Was he always so, even in seminary? 
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