He never told us how and we don't know. We had become very comfortable and accustomed with "I don't know" in many of our answers, only because it doesn't matter to us anymore for our spiritual growth. I believe I gave you the answer to why. I hope you don't just repeat asking questions mindlessly to irritate others here.
what do the words she was found with child from the Holy Spirit mean ?God made her pregnant without the need of a male counterpart.
I believe they matter the most.
I'm with you when you want to know the point of the Virgin birth. I understand it when you want to know why it matters, and I'm willing to answer that (in fact I already have answered that).
I don't understand why the mechanism of the Virgin birth is important for you however, especially since there is nothing in history that ever suggested anyone wanted to explain fully how the Virgin birth occurred. If you can't explain why this particular aspect of the Virgin birth matters to you the most, then how would you be able to expect anyone to answer your question with any seriousness?
Dear friend thanks.. I might have been ready it but i was tired.. I come home very tired from work.. I will re-read the thread.. Also my head is not clear when i`m tired.. What i wanted to propose was a small chit-chat on how Mary conceived and was found with child from the Holy Spirit (quoting the bible).. this i find it harder to understand.. i have no prob with the intact hymen well not that big except that it might look a bit weird, i don`t want to completely demisticize things and loose their sacramental importance, but if he could enter through the shut doors why not come through a shut hymen?I remmember a quote i saw somewhere "Christ came through a door that said 'No entrance' and left through a door that said 'no exist' something like that.. Well farewell and God bless you all.. Good night.
I think you are thinking of Ezekiel chapter 44:
Then the man brought me back to the outer gate of the sanctuary, the one facing east, and it was shut. 2 The Lord said to me, “This gate is to remain shut. It must not be opened; no one may enter through it. It is to remain shut because the Lord, the God of Israel, has entered through it. 3 The prince himself is the only one who may sit inside the gateway to eat in the presence of the Lord. He is to enter by way of the portico of the gateway and go out the same way.
This has been alluded to as the proof the Virgin Theotokos' perpetual virginity. The Word entered, became incarnate, and exited through it, and it remains shut, for no one else enters through it.
The idea that Christ may enter something while keeping it shut is not limited to the Virgin Theotokos, but also in the post-Resurrection story of appearing to the Apostles through a locked room. John 20:
19 On the evening of that first day of the week, when the disciples were together, with the doors locked for fear of the Jewish leaders, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!” 20 After he said this, he showed them his hands and side. The disciples were overjoyed when they saw the Lord.
So how does matter go through matter? Well considering that Christ is God Incarnate, the matter He assumes becomes glorified with the properties of His divinity. And thus Christ can do the impossible, but also by will allows Himself to take up the limitations of mankind, that He may pick up man's limitations into His glory.
As for the Virgin birth, since Christ did not want to be born by a seed of man, He was alluding to the story of Adam, who also was not made by seed of man.
The Father had His Holy Spirit hover over the waters of the Earth from the very beginning of creation, and uses Light as the fulcrum of the rest of creating, Light being interpreted by some Church fathers as the Logos. Therefore, the first three verses of the first chapter of Genesis was an allusion to the Trinity.
Then another involvement of the Trinity of new creation was introduced at the end of the 6th day of Creation. It was the creation of Adam. Being made in His Image and Likeness (Logos) and breathing into him His Spirit, thus you have the importance of the Trinity here.
Just as what happened to the best waters of the Earth and to the best dust of the Earth, now the womb of the best representation of humanity, the foundation of new creation brings together the Holy Trinity. Just as the Holy Spirit hovered in waters and was breathed into dust, so the Holy Spirit comes upon the Theotokos. The power of the Highest overshadowed the creation of the world and of the creation of man, so He overshadoweed the Theotokos. And as Light was manifest in the beginning of creation, and as the Image and Likeness was made manifest in man, so was the Logos becoming incarnate at that moment in the womb of the Theotokos. And just as the Earth remained good and pure, and man remained in incorruption after creation, so did the Virgin remain a Virgin. And as the world was created out of nothing, and man created out of no previous seed of man, so did the Logos being born out of the Virgin, as the first fruits of all those born into salvation.
For we too, are brought to the Virgin Church of God, born out of her womb in baptism after the Holy Spirit hovers the waters of baptism, and we rise after the third dipping as Christs and sons of God the Father, and the Church remains a Virgin and we inherit Christ's birth and divine life in Him.