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« on: August 07, 2012, 02:15:18 AM »

Am I the only one who thinks AFR programing has been going down hill for awhile now. It seams to me since one of the Fathers there have stopped doing pod casts on the site it's kinda dead over there now. I also don't think the live in call show is working out to well for them either. Anyone else feel this way?
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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2012, 03:16:13 AM »

Am I the only one who thinks AFR programing has been going down hill for awhile now. It seams to me since one of the Fathers there have stopped doing pod casts on the site it's kinda dead over there now. I also don't think the live in call show is working out to well for them either. Anyone else feel this way?
The only things I enjoy are Word from the Holy Fathers (defunct), Fr. Thomas Hopko's various series, and Dr. Constantinou's Scripture lectures (rarely updated).

Judging by the most recent programs, I think it's trying to target a more conservative audience, perhaps.
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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2012, 04:05:12 AM »

Sometimes it does seem to smack of some leftover ideas and attitudes from evangelical converts, but I am thankful for AFR nonetheless. It beats the heck out of the other "AFR": American Family Radio.



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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2012, 08:17:57 AM »

I listen to the music.  Occasionally, I'll pick up a podcast or two when someone recommends them, but otherwise I don't go looking for them there.

However, I did discover this site with lots of classes:

http://stspyridon.dreamhosters.com/

I'm currently listening to the NT survey (under "Bible Studies").  It's an actual college course give by the priest at a local college.
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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2012, 10:12:12 AM »

Am I the only one who thinks AFR programing has been going down hill for awhile now.

I couldn't say, but I'm curious: when you say "for awhile now", are you talking about 6 months? 2 years? 5 years? or what?
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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2012, 12:17:47 PM »

Princessmommy  thank you for the web site I'll have to check that one out.

Peter J  I would say to me been about the last 8 months now almost a year that I just find there topics and info on the pod cast lacking to what they use to put out. Some times people start a pod cast never finish there you are stuck in the middle just a mess at times as of late
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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2012, 12:24:05 PM »

I listen to it mainly for the music.  I've never cared for the podcasts, except for Fr. Thomas Hopko's (though they are a little too long) and the daily Synaxarion and Abbot Tryphon's Daily offering.  Everything else is either uninteresting to me or directed to a whole other audience.
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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2012, 03:33:31 PM »

I understand the points that have been made - and feel a bit that way myself. However, just to consider a few points:

1. This is summer. I'm not surprised that our favourite podcasters have a more relaxed schedule, to put it charitably. Yes, I'm missing a few of my regulars.

2. Some short-lived podcasts may have been intended that way. I'll be wanting now to review the first podcast (or the written blurb) to see if there would be some sort of "expiry date".

3. Overload. Sometimes we just so into to things that after a while we suddenly find ourselves thinking that it all sounds the same. (Watch CNN all day for a while and you'll see what I mean  Wink - or even the Olympics  Cheesy)

4. Let's not be too hard on AFR. It's not like they can pay professionals to come up with something new and fresh every few days. They have to depend on willing volunteer contributors. When I compare the quality of some of the podcasts to the quality of some of the work of those who post here, I might suggest that some of us should consider sharing with a larger audience than OCdotnet. I'm sure we can all suggest a few who like to spout off. So maybe someone will try using his/her mouth instead of the fingers for a change.

5. When the summer reruns are on, it's a chance to see favourite shows again. I've been listening to Fr Thomas Hopko's "Names of Jesus" series again and enjoying it immensely - probably more than the first time. It's also an opportunity to check out some other podcasts that we have passed over previously. Remember, everything out there appeals to somebody, somewhere.

It seems to me I recall a discussion we had several years ago about the same music always coming up on AFR. I think that AFR's success has encouraged a surge in recording by Orthodox musicians. There seems to be a lot less repetition recently.

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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2012, 03:44:28 PM »

I don't think it has gone downhill at all, I actually like it more now. I am subscribed to a ton of podcasts from AFR on ITunes and have a lot of new stuff to listen to even during the summer.
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« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2012, 04:14:20 PM »

Am I the only one who thinks AFR programing has been going down hill for awhile now. It seams to me since one of the Fathers there have stopped doing pod casts on the site it's kinda dead over there now. I also don't think the live in call show is working out to well for them either. Anyone else feel this way?
AFR is what it is. The dearth of quality for the call-in program, I would surmise (having not listened to it) would at least be determined by the issues being discussed, which to date have been boring, reactionary culture-war topics.

While like all things Conciliar Press-related I have a wary eye, a few programs AFR has produced have been good, though in recent months when I have ventured there it has been to the archives.
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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2012, 04:24:11 PM »

They need to get Fr. John McGuckin on there. Maybe in between teaching, ministering, writing poetry, and publishing 37 scholarly books per year he can squeeze in a podcast  Grin  In the meantime, I'm going to have a look around the site. I have a hard time concentrating on audio-only media, but I'll give it another shot.
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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2012, 04:37:05 PM »

They need to get Fr. John McGuckin on there. Maybe in between teaching, ministering, writing poetry, and publishing 37 scholarly books per year he can squeeze in a podcast  Grin  In the meantime, I'm going to have a look around the site. I have a hard time concentrating on audio-only media, but I'll give it another shot.
He has one on OCN, Turning to the Fathers...
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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2012, 04:37:48 PM »

Am I the only one who thinks AFR programing has been going down hill for awhile now. It seams to me since one of the Fathers there have stopped doing pod casts on the site it's kinda dead over there now. I also don't think the live in call show is working out to well for them either. Anyone else feel this way?
AFR is what it is. The dearth of quality for the call-in program, I would surmise (having not listened to it) would at least be determined by the issues being discussed, which to date have been boring, reactionary culture-war topics.

While like all things Conciliar Press-related I have a wary eye, a few programs AFR has produced have been good, though in recent months when I have ventured there it has been to the archives.

I don't know about reactionary, but definitely the other two.  That show just doesn't interest me and I haven't listened to it, but I have friends who think it's the bees knees. Wink
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« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2012, 04:40:51 PM »

They need to get Fr. John McGuckin on there. Maybe in between teaching, ministering, writing poetry, and publishing 37 scholarly books per year he can squeeze in a podcast  Grin  In the meantime, I'm going to have a look around the site. I have a hard time concentrating on audio-only media, but I'll give it another shot.
He has one on OCN, Turning to the Fathers...

Woh, thanks!  Grin  You just made my month! (I hope)
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« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2012, 06:09:30 PM »

Am I the only one who thinks AFR programing has been going down hill for awhile now. It seams to me since one of the Fathers there have stopped doing pod casts on the site it's kinda dead over there now. I also don't think the live in call show is working out to well for them either. Anyone else feel this way?
AFR can be said to have started off down hill. Now they are under sea level.
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« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2012, 07:04:09 PM »

Am I the only one who thinks AFR programing has been going down hill for awhile now. It seams to me since one of the Fathers there have stopped doing pod casts on the site it's kinda dead over there now. I also don't think the live in call show is working out to well for them either. Anyone else feel this way?
AFR can be said to have started off down hill. Now they are under sea level.
That site and conciliar press make Orthodoxy seem like another Protestant sect.
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« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2012, 07:15:07 PM »

Am I the only one who thinks AFR programing has been going down hill for awhile now. It seams to me since one of the Fathers there have stopped doing pod casts on the site it's kinda dead over there now. I also don't think the live in call show is working out to well for them either. Anyone else feel this way?
AFR can be said to have started off down hill. Now they are under sea level.
That site and conciliar press make Orthodoxy seem like another Protestant sect.
Would you please elaborate?
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« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2012, 08:54:59 PM »

Am I the only one who thinks AFR programing has been going down hill for awhile now. It seams to me since one of the Fathers there have stopped doing pod casts on the site it's kinda dead over there now. I also don't think the live in call show is working out to well for them either. Anyone else feel this way?
AFR can be said to have started off down hill. Now they are under sea level.
That site and conciliar press make Orthodoxy seem like another Protestant sect.
Would you please elaborate?


They're not actively pushing a socialist/leftist agenda so, therefore, they must be Protestants in disguise.  It's the typical "you don't subscribe to a hate the rich mentality so you can't be Orthodox" B.S. that one typically hears from Achronos.
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« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2012, 08:59:17 PM »

Am I the only one who thinks AFR programing has been going down hill for awhile now. It seams to me since one of the Fathers there have stopped doing pod casts on the site it's kinda dead over there now. I also don't think the live in call show is working out to well for them either. Anyone else feel this way?
AFR can be said to have started off down hill. Now they are under sea level.
That site and conciliar press make Orthodoxy seem like another Protestant sect.
Would you please elaborate?


They're not actively pushing a socialist/leftist agenda so, therefore, they must be Protestants in disguise.  It's the typical "you don't subscribe to a hate the rich mentality so you can't be Orthodox" B.S. that one typically hears from Achronos.
So wait if you are pushing a conservative/republicant agenda you are Orthodox?
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« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2012, 09:01:26 PM »

Am I the only one who thinks AFR programing has been going down hill for awhile now. It seams to me since one of the Fathers there have stopped doing pod casts on the site it's kinda dead over there now. I also don't think the live in call show is working out to well for them either. Anyone else feel this way?
AFR can be said to have started off down hill. Now they are under sea level.
That site and conciliar press make Orthodoxy seem like another Protestant sect.
Would you please elaborate?

The way they make Orthodoxy seem to the masses, it's like Protestanism disguised with vestments and shrouded with incense.
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« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2012, 09:11:10 PM »

Am I the only one who thinks AFR programing has been going down hill for awhile now. It seams to me since one of the Fathers there have stopped doing pod casts on the site it's kinda dead over there now. I also don't think the live in call show is working out to well for them either. Anyone else feel this way?
AFR can be said to have started off down hill. Now they are under sea level.
That site and conciliar press make Orthodoxy seem like another Protestant sect.
Would you please elaborate?


They're not actively pushing a socialist/leftist agenda so, therefore, they must be Protestants in disguise.  It's the typical "you don't subscribe to a hate the rich mentality so you can't be Orthodox" B.S. that one typically hears from Achronos.
So wait if you are pushing a conservative/republicant agenda you are Orthodox?

No. I've said no such thing. Orthodoxy is so much more than right wing/ left wing politics. Unfortunately, people like you have implied many times (especially of late) that no one can possibly be Orthodox and hold anything else than a left wing political ideology and those who may be of a right wing/libertarian persuasion are only quasi-Orthodox.
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« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2012, 09:11:59 PM »

Am I the only one who thinks AFR programing has been going down hill for awhile now. It seams to me since one of the Fathers there have stopped doing pod casts on the site it's kinda dead over there now. I also don't think the live in call show is working out to well for them either. Anyone else feel this way?
AFR can be said to have started off down hill. Now they are under sea level.
That site and conciliar press make Orthodoxy seem like another Protestant sect.
Would you please elaborate?

The way they make Orthodoxy seem to the masses, it's like Protestanism disguised with vestments and shrouded with incense.

That's a charge that's going need something called EVIDENCE, not mere assertions, to back up.  What is your EVIDENCE?
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The way they make Orthodoxy seem to the masses, it's like Protestanism disguised with vestments and shrouded with incense.

I think it's the opposite. It's Orthodoxy disguised in tacky jingles, cheesy intros and patronising talk.
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« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2012, 09:36:01 PM »

They need to get Fr. John McGuckin on there. Maybe in between teaching, ministering, writing poetry, and publishing 37 scholarly books per year he can squeeze in a podcast  Grin  In the meantime, I'm going to have a look around the site. I have a hard time concentrating on audio-only media, but I'll give it another shot.
He has one on OCN, Turning to the Fathers...

Wanted to thank you again for this. Of the dozen shows they have up I've listened to about half and found them helpful. And they're a nice mid-sized time-span as well. Fr. John doesn't sound like what I thought he would though  Grin
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« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2012, 09:43:33 PM »

Am I the only one who thinks AFR programing has been going down hill for awhile now. It seams to me since one of the Fathers there have stopped doing pod casts on the site it's kinda dead over there now. I also don't think the live in call show is working out to well for them either. Anyone else feel this way?
AFR can be said to have started off down hill. Now they are under sea level.
That site and conciliar press make Orthodoxy seem like another Protestant sect.
Would you please elaborate?


They're not actively pushing a socialist/leftist agenda so, therefore, they must be Protestants in disguise.  It's the typical "you don't subscribe to a hate the rich mentality so you can't be Orthodox" B.S. that one typically hears from Achronos.
So wait if you are pushing a conservative/republicant agenda you are Orthodox?

No. I've said no such thing. Orthodoxy is so much more than right wing/ left wing politics. Unfortunately, people like you have implied many times (especially of late) that no one can possibly be Orthodox and hold anything else than a left wing political ideology and those who may be of a right wing/libertarian persuasion are only quasi-Orthodox.
J Michael confirmed to me recently that he isn't a Christian and is pretty much espousing right wing bullet points. And a few other right wingers on this board have said many things anti-Christian. That alone shows me being rightwing isn't at all Orthodox.

Now I'm not saying being leftist makes you Orthodox.
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« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2012, 10:09:17 PM »

Am I the only one who thinks AFR programing has been going down hill for awhile now. It seams to me since one of the Fathers there have stopped doing pod casts on the site it's kinda dead over there now. I also don't think the live in call show is working out to well for them either. Anyone else feel this way?
AFR can be said to have started off down hill. Now they are under sea level.
That site and conciliar press make Orthodoxy seem like another Protestant sect.
Would you please elaborate?


They're not actively pushing a socialist/leftist agenda so, therefore, they must be Protestants in disguise.  It's the typical "you don't subscribe to a hate the rich mentality so you can't be Orthodox" B.S. that one typically hears from Achronos.
So wait if you are pushing a conservative/republicant agenda you are Orthodox?

No. I've said no such thing. Orthodoxy is so much more than right wing/ left wing politics. Unfortunately, people like you have implied many times (especially of late) that no one can possibly be Orthodox and hold anything else than a left wing political ideology and those who may be of a right wing/libertarian persuasion are only quasi-Orthodox.
J Michael confirmed to me recently that he isn't a Christian and is pretty much espousing right wing bullet points. And a few other right wingers on this board have said many things anti-Christian. That alone shows me being rightwing isn't at all Orthodox.

Now I'm not saying being leftist makes you Orthodox.

You've said many unChristian things and you're a leftist.  I suppose that,using your "logic", along with espousing pretty much left wing shows me that being left wing isn't at all Orthodox.
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« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2012, 10:09:59 PM »

The way they make Orthodoxy seem to the masses, it's like Protestanism disguised with vestments and shrouded with incense.

I think it's the opposite. It's Orthodoxy disguised in tacky jingles, cheesy intros and patronising talk.

I would agree with this assessment. 
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« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2012, 10:14:49 PM »

Am I the only one who thinks AFR programing has been going down hill for awhile now. It seams to me since one of the Fathers there have stopped doing pod casts on the site it's kinda dead over there now. I also don't think the live in call show is working out to well for them either. Anyone else feel this way?
AFR can be said to have started off down hill. Now they are under sea level.
That site and conciliar press make Orthodoxy seem like another Protestant sect.
Would you please elaborate?


They're not actively pushing a socialist/leftist agenda so, therefore, they must be Protestants in disguise.  It's the typical "you don't subscribe to a hate the rich mentality so you can't be Orthodox" B.S. that one typically hears from Achronos.
So wait if you are pushing a conservative/republicant agenda you are Orthodox?

No. I've said no such thing. Orthodoxy is so much more than right wing/ left wing politics. Unfortunately, people like you have implied many times (especially of late) that no one can possibly be Orthodox and hold anything else than a left wing political ideology and those who may be of a right wing/libertarian persuasion are only quasi-Orthodox.
J Michael confirmed to me recently that he isn't a Christian and is pretty much espousing right wing bullet points. And a few other right wingers on this board have said many things anti-Christian. That alone shows me being rightwing isn't at all Orthodox.

Now I'm not saying being leftist makes you Orthodox.

You've said many unChristian things and you're a leftist.  I suppose that,using your "logic", along with espousing pretty much left wing shows me that being left wing isn't at all Orthodox.
Since you'd rather continue with your ad hominem, I'll end this discussion now.
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Am I the only one who thinks AFR programing has been going down hill for awhile now. It seams to me since one of the Fathers there have stopped doing pod casts on the site it's kinda dead over there now. I also don't think the live in call show is working out to well for them either. Anyone else feel this way?
AFR can be said to have started off down hill. Now they are under sea level.
That site and conciliar press make Orthodoxy seem like another Protestant sect.
Would you please elaborate?


They're not actively pushing a socialist/leftist agenda so, therefore, they must be Protestants in disguise.  It's the typical "you don't subscribe to a hate the rich mentality so you can't be Orthodox" B.S. that one typically hears from Achronos.
So wait if you are pushing a conservative/republicant agenda you are Orthodox?

No. I've said no such thing. Orthodoxy is so much more than right wing/ left wing politics. Unfortunately, people like you have implied many times (especially of late) that no one can possibly be Orthodox and hold anything else than a left wing political ideology and those who may be of a right wing/libertarian persuasion are only quasi-Orthodox.
J Michael confirmed to me recently that he isn't a Christian and is pretty much espousing right wing bullet points. And a few other right wingers on this board have said many things anti-Christian. That alone shows me being rightwing isn't at all Orthodox.

That doesn't make sense.
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^ Ah I forgot you aren't Orthodox, my bad haha.
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« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2012, 10:36:16 PM »

Am I the only one who thinks AFR programing has been going down hill for awhile now. It seams to me since one of the Fathers there have stopped doing pod casts on the site it's kinda dead over there now. I also don't think the live in call show is working out to well for them either. Anyone else feel this way?
AFR can be said to have started off down hill. Now they are under sea level.
That site and conciliar press make Orthodoxy seem like another Protestant sect.
Would you please elaborate?


They're not actively pushing a socialist/leftist agenda so, therefore, they must be Protestants in disguise.  It's the typical "you don't subscribe to a hate the rich mentality so you can't be Orthodox" B.S. that one typically hears from Achronos.
So wait if you are pushing a conservative/republicant agenda you are Orthodox?

No. I've said no such thing. Orthodoxy is so much more than right wing/ left wing politics. Unfortunately, people like you have implied many times (especially of late) that no one can possibly be Orthodox and hold anything else than a left wing political ideology and those who may be of a right wing/libertarian persuasion are only quasi-Orthodox.
J Michael confirmed to me recently that he isn't a Christian and is pretty much espousing right wing bullet points. And a few other right wingers on this board have said many things anti-Christian. That alone shows me being rightwing isn't at all Orthodox.

Now I'm not saying being leftist makes you Orthodox.

You've said many unChristian things and you're a leftist.  I suppose that,using your "logic", along with espousing pretty much left wing shows me that being left wing isn't at all Orthodox.
Since you'd rather continue with your ad hominem, I'll end this discussion now.
Don't end the discussion. AFR and libertarianism need to be mercilessly mocked at all times.
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« Reply #31 on: August 07, 2012, 11:13:37 PM »

Am I the only one who thinks AFR programing has been going down hill for awhile now. It seams to me since one of the Fathers there have stopped doing pod casts on the site it's kinda dead over there now. I also don't think the live in call show is working out to well for them either. Anyone else feel this way?
AFR can be said to have started off down hill. Now they are under sea level.
That site and conciliar press make Orthodoxy seem like another Protestant sect.
Would you please elaborate?


They're not actively pushing a socialist/leftist agenda so, therefore, they must be Protestants in disguise.  It's the typical "you don't subscribe to a hate the rich mentality so you can't be Orthodox" B.S. that one typically hears from Achronos.
So wait if you are pushing a conservative/republicant agenda you are Orthodox?

No. I've said no such thing. Orthodoxy is so much more than right wing/ left wing politics. Unfortunately, people like you have implied many times (especially of late) that no one can possibly be Orthodox and hold anything else than a left wing political ideology and those who may be of a right wing/libertarian persuasion are only quasi-Orthodox.
J Michael confirmed to me recently that he isn't a Christian and is pretty much espousing right wing bullet points. And a few other right wingers on this board have said many things anti-Christian. That alone shows me being rightwing isn't at all Orthodox.

Now I'm not saying being leftist makes you Orthodox.

You've said many unChristian things and you're a leftist.  I suppose that,using your "logic", along with espousing pretty much left wing shows me that being left wing isn't at all Orthodox.
Since you'd rather continue with your ad hominem, I'll end this discussion now.

Right, because you weren't involved in any ad hominem attacks.  Plus, what I did was not ad hominem. I was just applying your standard both ways.  Too bad you can't recognize the difference.
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« Reply #32 on: August 07, 2012, 11:14:50 PM »

Am I the only one who thinks AFR programing has been going down hill for awhile now. It seams to me since one of the Fathers there have stopped doing pod casts on the site it's kinda dead over there now. I also don't think the live in call show is working out to well for them either. Anyone else feel this way?
AFR can be said to have started off down hill. Now they are under sea level.
That site and conciliar press make Orthodoxy seem like another Protestant sect.
Would you please elaborate?


They're not actively pushing a socialist/leftist agenda so, therefore, they must be Protestants in disguise.  It's the typical "you don't subscribe to a hate the rich mentality so you can't be Orthodox" B.S. that one typically hears from Achronos.
So wait if you are pushing a conservative/republicant agenda you are Orthodox?

No. I've said no such thing. Orthodoxy is so much more than right wing/ left wing politics. Unfortunately, people like you have implied many times (especially of late) that no one can possibly be Orthodox and hold anything else than a left wing political ideology and those who may be of a right wing/libertarian persuasion are only quasi-Orthodox.
J Michael confirmed to me recently that he isn't a Christian and is pretty much espousing right wing bullet points. And a few other right wingers on this board have said many things anti-Christian. That alone shows me being rightwing isn't at all Orthodox.

Now I'm not saying being leftist makes you Orthodox.

You've said many unChristian things and you're a leftist.  I suppose that,using your "logic", along with espousing pretty much left wing shows me that being left wing isn't at all Orthodox.
Since you'd rather continue with your ad hominem, I'll end this discussion now.
Don't end the discussion. AFR and libertarianism need to be mercilessly mocked at all times.

Because mockery is such a Christian virtue, right?
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« Reply #33 on: August 10, 2012, 09:18:32 AM »

Am I the only one who thinks AFR programing has been going down hill for awhile now. It seams to me since one of the Fathers there have stopped doing pod casts on the site it's kinda dead over there now. I also don't think the live in call show is working out to well for them either. Anyone else feel this way?
AFR can be said to have started off down hill. Now they are under sea level.
That site and conciliar press make Orthodoxy seem like another Protestant sect.
Would you please elaborate?


They're not actively pushing a socialist/leftist agenda so, therefore, they must be Protestants in disguise.  It's the typical "you don't subscribe to a hate the rich mentality so you can't be Orthodox" B.S. that one typically hears from Achronos.
So wait if you are pushing a conservative/republicant agenda you are Orthodox?

No. I've said no such thing. Orthodoxy is so much more than right wing/ left wing politics. Unfortunately, people like you have implied many times (especially of late) that no one can possibly be Orthodox and hold anything else than a left wing political ideology and those who may be of a right wing/libertarian persuasion are only quasi-Orthodox.
J Michael confirmed to me recently that he isn't a Christian and is pretty much espousing right wing bullet points. And a few other right wingers on this board have said many things anti-Christian. That alone shows me being rightwing isn't at all Orthodox.

That doesn't make sense.

^ Ah I forgot you aren't Orthodox, my bad haha.

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