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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #315 on: August 06, 2012, 12:15:06 AM »
So Chick-Fil-A was mobbed last Weds by folks standing up for traditional values? Where are all these folks when we need help at the homeless shelter?

They were probably on their lunch break

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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #316 on: August 06, 2012, 12:23:08 AM »
So Chick-Fil-A was mobbed last Weds by folks standing up for traditional values? Where are all these folks when we need help at the homeless shelter?

They were probably on their lunch break
cute. when was the last time you saw people mob a volunteer oppurtunity?
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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #317 on: August 06, 2012, 12:59:20 AM »
So Chick-Fil-A was mobbed last Weds by folks standing up for traditional values? Where are all these folks when we need help at the homeless shelter?

They were probably on their lunch break
cute. when was the last time you saw people mob a volunteer oppurtunity?
Any number of walkathons for one.  I saw one the week before last.
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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #318 on: August 06, 2012, 01:22:48 AM »
The local food pantry down the street seemed pretty well-staffed when we went there to donate two flats of juice drinks last week. You'd be surprised how people still support traditional values even when we're not talking about homosexuality and fast food. ::)

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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #319 on: August 06, 2012, 03:25:32 AM »
So Chick-Fil-A was mobbed last Weds by folks standing up for traditional values? Where are all these folks when we need help at the homeless shelter?

They were probably on their lunch break
cute. when was the last time you saw people mob a volunteer oppurtunity?


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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #320 on: August 06, 2012, 03:39:09 AM »
Apparently Joe thinks that execs at McDonalds who "earn" millions and millions of dollars of bonuses is the right thing, while the worker at McDonald's who cannot even support himself on his own income must be the one to starve because hey he doesn't have a career.

But I forgot those execs need those yachts rather than the worker to get a roof of his head and other amenities.

Are you people even Christian? Honestly. Stop serving yourselves and start serving other people.
Supply and demand.  You do a job anyone can do because it is not so demanding, there is a lot of supply, and the salary reflects it.

Of course, they can raise the price to $10 a burger, in which case no one will buy them and everyone will be out of a job.

Do you really think any job you have ever had is as "demanding" as a migrant farm worker's job?

Fwiw, I do. In middle school I worked on a farm in the summer, right alongside Mexican illegal immigrants. What do you want to know about it?
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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #321 on: August 06, 2012, 04:16:56 AM »
So Chick-Fil-A was mobbed last Weds by folks standing up for traditional values? Where are all these folks when we need help at the homeless shelter?
Yup.

So? You are here spouting trash yourself rather than at a homeless shelter rendering assistance. Bah...
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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #322 on: August 06, 2012, 08:42:15 AM »
The Nanny State is no Utopia either:

http://www.minnpost.com/global-post/2012/07/euro-crisis-growing-hungry-greece

Euro crisis: Growing up hungry in Greece
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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #323 on: August 06, 2012, 09:01:58 AM »
So Chick-Fil-A was mobbed last Weds by folks standing up for traditional values? Where are all these folks when we need help at the homeless shelter?

They were probably on their lunch break
cute. when was the last time you saw people mob a volunteer oppurtunity?

All the time... The walk for Cancer we go to has tons of people show up. The local food pantry has a waiting list for the various Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts and high school community service clubs to come out and stock shelves and do the various chores..The Half Way house by Church gets lots of help...     etc.
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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #324 on: August 06, 2012, 09:03:58 AM »
So Chick-Fil-A was mobbed last Weds by folks standing up for traditional values? Where are all these folks when we need help at the homeless shelter?

They were probably on their lunch break
cute. when was the last time you saw people mob a volunteer oppurtunity?

All the time... The walk for Cancer we go to has tons of people show up. The local food pantry has a waiting list for the various Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts and high school community service clubs to come out and stock shelves and do the various chores..The Half Way house by Church gets lots of help...     etc.
I guess for some this is not good enough.  You cant satisfy all the folks no matter what is done for them. 
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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #325 on: August 06, 2012, 09:14:02 AM »
So Chick-Fil-A was mobbed last Weds by folks standing up for traditional values? Where are all these folks when we need help at the homeless shelter?
Yup.

So? You are here spouting trash yourself rather than at a homeless shelter rendering assistance. Bah...
excuse me, i do work with a homeless program actually.
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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #326 on: August 06, 2012, 11:48:07 AM »
This has turned into a rather hilariously confusing brouhaha,  :laugh: :laugh: as far as the Orthodox Christians of America are concerned,  is it a question of religion, politics, law, or personal conviction? what the heck is going on that we are arguing over where to eat our chicken and whom to eat it with? The way I see it, If it is a religious question of with whom to dine with, make sure you imitate your master, as Jesus has been known to dine with those deemed sinners and not the teachers and keepers of the law. if it is a matter of politics the best of politicians like Gandhi would advocate for peaceful coexistence, If it is a matter of civil law folks like Dr. king would march with those that fight for their civil rights, if its a personal conviction for pits sake go ahead and eat your chicken!  :police: It’s a FREE COUNTRY after all, or is it….?  :-\ But that’s just me, so you may continue as you are folks . :police: I am now going to drink some fantastic Fantalimon with a nice slice of fruitcake because I love them both! ;) :laugh:

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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #327 on: August 06, 2012, 01:37:28 PM »
So Chick-Fil-A was mobbed last Weds by folks standing up for traditional values? Where are all these folks when we need help at the homeless shelter?

They were probably on their lunch break

What kind of job has an hours long lunch break?
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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #328 on: August 06, 2012, 02:44:19 PM »
So Chick-Fil-A was mobbed last Weds by folks standing up for traditional values? Where are all these folks when we need help at the homeless shelter?
There.  And in the soup kitchens and any number of charitable enterprises which, studies show, the conservative folks overwhelming contribute to and run the bulk.
Doesn't matter really. Capitalist charity is often worse that capitalist brutality since it only serves to confuse the oppressed.

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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #329 on: August 06, 2012, 03:15:48 PM »
So Chick-Fil-A was mobbed last Weds by folks standing up for traditional values? Where are all these folks when we need help at the homeless shelter?
There.  And in the soup kitchens and any number of charitable enterprises which, studies show, the conservative folks overwhelming contribute to and run the bulk.
Doesn't matter really. Capitalist charity is often worse that capitalist brutality since it only serves to confuse the oppressed.

And assuage the conscience of the oppressors.
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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #330 on: August 06, 2012, 03:38:11 PM »
So Chick-Fil-A was mobbed last Weds by folks standing up for traditional values? Where are all these folks when we need help at the homeless shelter?

They were probably on their lunch break

What kind of job has an hours long lunch break?

Probably the kind where you start work, say for example, at 8 a.m., work until noon, have your lunch break for an hour, and then go back to work from 1 p.m.-5p.m.  Simple, really.  Lots of places "out there" in the real world do that.  Lots of other places don't have an hour-long lunch break.  Others, like where I work, give you an option.  So what?
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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #331 on: August 06, 2012, 04:22:11 PM »
So Chick-Fil-A was mobbed last Weds by folks standing up for traditional values? Where are all these folks when we need help at the homeless shelter?

They were probably on their lunch break

What kind of job has an hours long lunch break?

Probably the kind where you start work, say for example, at 8 a.m., work until noon, have your lunch break for an hour, and then go back to work from 1 p.m.-5p.m.  Simple, really.  Lots of places "out there" in the real world do that.  Lots of other places don't have an hour-long lunch break.  Others, like where I work, give you an option.  So what?
Most of my jobs have only included a half hour lunch breaks.
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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #332 on: August 06, 2012, 04:23:24 PM »
So Chick-Fil-A was mobbed last Weds by folks standing up for traditional values? Where are all these folks when we need help at the homeless shelter?
There.  And in the soup kitchens and any number of charitable enterprises which, studies show, the conservative folks overwhelming contribute to and run the bulk.
Doesn't matter really. Capitalist charity is often worse that capitalist brutality since it only serves to confuse the oppressed.
Whoa. Way to stack the deck in favor of your view. When the enemy does good, it's still evil.  ::)
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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #333 on: August 06, 2012, 04:30:31 PM »
So Chick-Fil-A was mobbed last Weds by folks standing up for traditional values? Where are all these folks when we need help at the homeless shelter?
There.  And in the soup kitchens and any number of charitable enterprises which, studies show, the conservative folks overwhelming contribute to and run the bulk.
Doesn't matter really. Capitalist charity is often worse that capitalist brutality since it only serves to confuse the oppressed.
Whoa. Way to stack the deck in favor of your view. When the enemy does good, it's still evil.  ::)

That's because it's "The Enemy" and *anything* The Enemy does is inherently evil.



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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #334 on: August 06, 2012, 04:34:46 PM »
In 1965 Prodution woker average hourly wage: $19.61
In 2007 Production worker average hourly wage: $19.71

Typical 1965 CEO pay for the same period: $490.31
Typical 2007 CEO pay for the same period: $5,419.97

Typical household net worth by head of household's age:

<35 years:
1984 - $11,680
2009 - $3,710

35-44:
1984 - $72,090
2009 - $40,140

45-54:
1984 - $115,060
2009 - $103,040

55-64:
1984 - $149,240
2009 - $164,270

>65:
1984 - $122,100
2009: $172,820

http://xkcd.com/980/

Plenty of sources on that link, but the evidence is pretty clear here.
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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #335 on: August 06, 2012, 04:38:13 PM »
So Chick-Fil-A was mobbed last Weds by folks standing up for traditional values? Where are all these folks when we need help at the homeless shelter?
There.  And in the soup kitchens and any number of charitable enterprises which, studies show, the conservative folks overwhelming contribute to and run the bulk.
Doesn't matter really. Capitalist charity is often worse that capitalist brutality since it only serves to confuse the oppressed.
Whoa. Way to stack the deck in favor of your view. When the enemy does good, it's still evil.  ::)

Depends on you define "good".
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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #336 on: August 06, 2012, 04:48:49 PM »
So Chick-Fil-A was mobbed last Weds by folks standing up for traditional values? Where are all these folks when we need help at the homeless shelter?

They were probably on their lunch break

What kind of job has an hours long lunch break?

Insurance sales................ just sayin
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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #337 on: August 06, 2012, 05:18:34 PM »
So Chick-Fil-A was mobbed last Weds by folks standing up for traditional values? Where are all these folks when we need help at the homeless shelter?

They were probably on their lunch break

What kind of job has an hours long lunch break?

Insurance sales................ just sayin
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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #338 on: August 06, 2012, 05:46:25 PM »
So Chick-Fil-A was mobbed last Weds by folks standing up for traditional values? Where are all these folks when we need help at the homeless shelter?

They were probably on their lunch break

What kind of job has an hours long lunch break?

Probably the kind where you start work, say for example, at 8 a.m., work until noon, have your lunch break for an hour, and then go back to work from 1 p.m.-5p.m.  Simple, really.  Lots of places "out there" in the real world do that.  Lots of other places don't have an hour-long lunch break.  Others, like where I work, give you an option.  So what?
Most of my jobs have only included a half hour lunch breaks.
Some days I get an hour and one half, other days I get two minutes and I regularly work twelve or more hours a day.  Just depends.

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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #339 on: August 06, 2012, 05:47:16 PM »
So Chick-Fil-A was mobbed last Weds by folks standing up for traditional values? Where are all these folks when we need help at the homeless shelter?

They were probably on their lunch break

What kind of job has an hours long lunch break?

Probably the kind where you start work, say for example, at 8 a.m., work until noon, have your lunch break for an hour, and then go back to work from 1 p.m.-5p.m.  Simple, really.  Lots of places "out there" in the real world do that.  Lots of other places don't have an hour-long lunch break.  Others, like where I work, give you an option.  So what?
Most of my jobs have only included a half hour lunch breaks.
Some days I get an hour and one half, other days I get two minutes and I regularly work twelve or more hours a day.  Just depends.

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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #340 on: August 06, 2012, 05:49:11 PM »
In 1965 Prodution woker average hourly wage: $19.61
In 2007 Production worker average hourly wage: $19.71

Typical 1965 CEO pay for the same period: $490.31
Typical 2007 CEO pay for the same period: $5,419.97

Typical household net worth by head of household's age:

<35 years:
1984 - $11,680
2009 - $3,710

35-44:
1984 - $72,090
2009 - $40,140

45-54:
1984 - $115,060
2009 - $103,040

55-64:
1984 - $149,240
2009 - $164,270

>65:
1984 - $122,100
2009: $172,820

http://xkcd.com/980/

Plenty of sources on that link, but the evidence is pretty clear here.
Evidence of what?

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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #341 on: August 06, 2012, 06:35:56 PM »
So Chick-Fil-A was mobbed last Weds by folks standing up for traditional values? Where are all these folks when we need help at the homeless shelter?

They were probably on their lunch break

What kind of job has an hours long lunch break?

Probably the kind where you start work, say for example, at 8 a.m., work until noon, have your lunch break for an hour, and then go back to work from 1 p.m.-5p.m.  Simple, really.  Lots of places "out there" in the real world do that.  Lots of other places don't have an hour-long lunch break.  Others, like where I work, give you an option.  So what?
Most of my jobs have only included a half hour lunch breaks.
Some days I get an hour and one half, other days I get two minutes and I regularly work twelve or more hours a day.  Just depends.

I take two hours and then a nap.
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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #342 on: August 06, 2012, 08:03:55 PM »
So Chick-Fil-A was mobbed last Weds by folks standing up for traditional values? Where are all these folks when we need help at the homeless shelter?

They were probably on their lunch break

What kind of job has an hours long lunch break?

Probably the kind where you start work, say for example, at 8 a.m., work until noon, have your lunch break for an hour, and then go back to work from 1 p.m.-5p.m.  Simple, really.  Lots of places "out there" in the real world do that.  Lots of other places don't have an hour-long lunch break.  Others, like where I work, give you an option.  So what?
Most of my jobs have only included a half hour lunch breaks.
Some days I get an hour and one half, other days I get two minutes and I regularly work twelve or more hours a day.  Just depends.

I take two hours and then a nap.

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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #343 on: August 06, 2012, 08:24:13 PM »
So Chick-Fil-A was mobbed last Weds by folks standing up for traditional values? Where are all these folks when we need help at the homeless shelter?

They were probably on their lunch break
cute. when was the last time you saw people mob a volunteer oppurtunity?

Actually we get turned down for soup kitchens at certain times of year because they have "more than enough volunteers." 

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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #344 on: August 07, 2012, 01:00:46 AM »
The political tangent has been split off and moved to Politics.

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php?topic=46248.0

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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #345 on: August 09, 2012, 02:39:48 AM »
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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #346 on: August 09, 2012, 07:44:02 AM »
I am glad this is finally winding down.  I went to Starbucks yesterday and I didn't see anyone protesting their pro-homosexual donations.  This all seemed one sided to me.  Purchase what you enjoy, but if it means that much to you don't purchase.  Either way, people should not make a mountain out of a mole hill.  It we didn't buy things from people we disagreed with, we would never purchase anything.

Peter, if this is considered political, please let me know.  I tried not to make it as such and would appreciate guidance so I do not violate any rules, even if I came close but didn't.  Thanks.

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« Reply #347 on: September 05, 2012, 07:35:09 PM »
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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #348 on: September 19, 2012, 02:21:12 PM »
Chick-fil-A Ceases Anti-gay Donations, Clarifies Stance on Gay Customers & Employees

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September 18, 2012 – Chicago, Illinois – The Civil Rights Agenda (TCRA), Illinois’ leading lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) civil rights advocacy organization, has learned that Alderman Moreno has finalized his negotiations with Chick-Fil-A.  Alderman Moreno has confirmed that Chick-fil-A will no longer give money to anti-gay organizations and that they have clarified in an internal document that the company will treat every person equally, regardless of sexual orientation. The Civil Rights Agenda worked closely with the Alderman in an advisory role as he negotiated these concessions with the executives at Chick-fil-A.  Additionally, members of TCRA spoke directly with executives at Chick-fil-A during negotiations to aid in educating their decision makers about anti-discrimination policies and issues affecting the LGBT community.

In a letter addressed to Alderman Moreno and signed by Chick-fil-A’s Senior Director of Real Estate, it states, “The WinShape Foundations is now taking a much closer look at the organizations it considers helping, and in that process will remain true to its stated philosophy of not supporting organizations with political agendas.”  Winshape, a non-profit funded by Chick-fil-a, has donated millions of dollars to anti-LGBT groups, including some classified as hate groups.  In meetings the company executives clarified that they will no longer give to anti-gay organizations.
Smart move.
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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #349 on: September 19, 2012, 02:46:21 PM »
Chick-fil-A Ceases Anti-gay Donations, Clarifies Stance on Gay Customers & Employees

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September 18, 2012 – Chicago, Illinois – The Civil Rights Agenda (TCRA), Illinois’ leading lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) civil rights advocacy organization, has learned that Alderman Moreno has finalized his negotiations with Chick-Fil-A.  Alderman Moreno has confirmed that Chick-fil-A will no longer give money to anti-gay organizations and that they have clarified in an internal document that the company will treat every person equally, regardless of sexual orientation. The Civil Rights Agenda worked closely with the Alderman in an advisory role as he negotiated these concessions with the executives at Chick-fil-A.  Additionally, members of TCRA spoke directly with executives at Chick-fil-A during negotiations to aid in educating their decision makers about anti-discrimination policies and issues affecting the LGBT community.

In a letter addressed to Alderman Moreno and signed by Chick-fil-A’s Senior Director of Real Estate, it states, “The WinShape Foundations is now taking a much closer look at the organizations it considers helping, and in that process will remain true to its stated philosophy of not supporting organizations with political agendas.”  Winshape, a non-profit funded by Chick-fil-a, has donated millions of dollars to anti-LGBT groups, including some classified as hate groups.  In meetings the company executives clarified that they will no longer give to anti-gay organizations.
Smart move.
Unfortante. They caved to the lefty bullies.
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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #350 on: September 19, 2012, 02:52:12 PM »
Chick-fil-A Ceases Anti-gay Donations, Clarifies Stance on Gay Customers & Employees

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September 18, 2012 – Chicago, Illinois – The Civil Rights Agenda (TCRA), Illinois’ leading lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) civil rights advocacy organization, has learned that Alderman Moreno has finalized his negotiations with Chick-Fil-A.  Alderman Moreno has confirmed that Chick-fil-A will no longer give money to anti-gay organizations and that they have clarified in an internal document that the company will treat every person equally, regardless of sexual orientation. The Civil Rights Agenda worked closely with the Alderman in an advisory role as he negotiated these concessions with the executives at Chick-fil-A.  Additionally, members of TCRA spoke directly with executives at Chick-fil-A during negotiations to aid in educating their decision makers about anti-discrimination policies and issues affecting the LGBT community.

In a letter addressed to Alderman Moreno and signed by Chick-fil-A’s Senior Director of Real Estate, it states, “The WinShape Foundations is now taking a much closer look at the organizations it considers helping, and in that process will remain true to its stated philosophy of not supporting organizations with political agendas.”  Winshape, a non-profit funded by Chick-fil-a, has donated millions of dollars to anti-LGBT groups, including some classified as hate groups.  In meetings the company executives clarified that they will no longer give to anti-gay organizations.
Smart move.
Unfortante. They caved to the lefty bullies.

The Market has decided. You should be happy.
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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #351 on: September 19, 2012, 02:52:36 PM »
Chick-fil-A Ceases Anti-gay Donations, Clarifies Stance on Gay Customers & Employees

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September 18, 2012 – Chicago, Illinois – The Civil Rights Agenda (TCRA), Illinois’ leading lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) civil rights advocacy organization, has learned that Alderman Moreno has finalized his negotiations with Chick-Fil-A.  Alderman Moreno has confirmed that Chick-fil-A will no longer give money to anti-gay organizations and that they have clarified in an internal document that the company will treat every person equally, regardless of sexual orientation. The Civil Rights Agenda worked closely with the Alderman in an advisory role as he negotiated these concessions with the executives at Chick-fil-A.  Additionally, members of TCRA spoke directly with executives at Chick-fil-A during negotiations to aid in educating their decision makers about anti-discrimination policies and issues affecting the LGBT community.

In a letter addressed to Alderman Moreno and signed by Chick-fil-A’s Senior Director of Real Estate, it states, “The WinShape Foundations is now taking a much closer look at the organizations it considers helping, and in that process will remain true to its stated philosophy of not supporting organizations with political agendas.”  Winshape, a non-profit funded by Chick-fil-a, has donated millions of dollars to anti-LGBT groups, including some classified as hate groups.  In meetings the company executives clarified that they will no longer give to anti-gay organizations.
Smart move.

What hate groups?
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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #352 on: September 19, 2012, 02:56:23 PM »
Chick-fil-A Ceases Anti-gay Donations, Clarifies Stance on Gay Customers & Employees

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September 18, 2012 – Chicago, Illinois – The Civil Rights Agenda (TCRA), Illinois’ leading lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) civil rights advocacy organization, has learned that Alderman Moreno has finalized his negotiations with Chick-Fil-A.  Alderman Moreno has confirmed that Chick-fil-A will no longer give money to anti-gay organizations and that they have clarified in an internal document that the company will treat every person equally, regardless of sexual orientation. The Civil Rights Agenda worked closely with the Alderman in an advisory role as he negotiated these concessions with the executives at Chick-fil-A.  Additionally, members of TCRA spoke directly with executives at Chick-fil-A during negotiations to aid in educating their decision makers about anti-discrimination policies and issues affecting the LGBT community.

In a letter addressed to Alderman Moreno and signed by Chick-fil-A’s Senior Director of Real Estate, it states, “The WinShape Foundations is now taking a much closer look at the organizations it considers helping, and in that process will remain true to its stated philosophy of not supporting organizations with political agendas.”  Winshape, a non-profit funded by Chick-fil-a, has donated millions of dollars to anti-LGBT groups, including some classified as hate groups.  In meetings the company executives clarified that they will no longer give to anti-gay organizations.
Smart move.

What hate groups?

Do you really care?

Frankly, if I were gay, I would be glad places like the above exist. This is going to kill the gay owned crummy fried chicken sandwich industry.
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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #353 on: September 19, 2012, 03:19:07 PM »
Chick-fil-A Ceases Anti-gay Donations, Clarifies Stance on Gay Customers & Employees

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September 18, 2012 – Chicago, Illinois – The Civil Rights Agenda (TCRA), Illinois’ leading lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) civil rights advocacy organization, has learned that Alderman Moreno has finalized his negotiations with Chick-Fil-A.  Alderman Moreno has confirmed that Chick-fil-A will no longer give money to anti-gay organizations and that they have clarified in an internal document that the company will treat every person equally, regardless of sexual orientation. The Civil Rights Agenda worked closely with the Alderman in an advisory role as he negotiated these concessions with the executives at Chick-fil-A.  Additionally, members of TCRA spoke directly with executives at Chick-fil-A during negotiations to aid in educating their decision makers about anti-discrimination policies and issues affecting the LGBT community.

In a letter addressed to Alderman Moreno and signed by Chick-fil-A’s Senior Director of Real Estate, it states, “The WinShape Foundations is now taking a much closer look at the organizations it considers helping, and in that process will remain true to its stated philosophy of not supporting organizations with political agendas.”  Winshape, a non-profit funded by Chick-fil-a, has donated millions of dollars to anti-LGBT groups, including some classified as hate groups.  In meetings the company executives clarified that they will no longer give to anti-gay organizations.
Smart move.

What hate groups?
The Southern Poverty Law Center is using a specific definition of 'hate group':

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The SPLC’s definition of hate speech does not require an explicit incitement to violence. According to the group’s website, a hate group must have “beliefs or practices that attack or malign an entire class of people, typically for their immutable characteristics.” Being named as a hate group “does not imply a group advocates or engages in violence or other criminal activity.”

Many conservatives and progressives alike might disagree with this definition of hate group, choosing to save such language for groups that espouse violence.

In any event, the Family Research Council -- listed as a hate group by the SPLC, and a former recipient of Chick-Fil-A largesse -- does support making homosexual activity illegal, a political move that most Christians, I would think, would deem unwise to support:

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Homosexuality Is Not a Civil Right

This pamphlet clarifies certain misconceptions about the meaning of "discrimination" (some forms of which can't-and shouldn't-be eliminated) and of "civil rights" (distinguishing those which limit government power from those which limit the rights of others). It also explains why homosexual conduct is not comparable to other characteristics usually protected by civil rights laws ("race, color, religion, sex, or national origin"). Protection against private "discrimination" has historically been offered only for characteristics that are inborn, involuntary, immutable, innocuous, and/or in the Constitution-yet none of these describe homosexual behavior.
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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #354 on: September 19, 2012, 03:21:53 PM »
Chick-fil-A Ceases Anti-gay Donations, Clarifies Stance on Gay Customers & Employees

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September 18, 2012 – Chicago, Illinois – The Civil Rights Agenda (TCRA), Illinois’ leading lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) civil rights advocacy organization, has learned that Alderman Moreno has finalized his negotiations with Chick-Fil-A.  Alderman Moreno has confirmed that Chick-fil-A will no longer give money to anti-gay organizations and that they have clarified in an internal document that the company will treat every person equally, regardless of sexual orientation. The Civil Rights Agenda worked closely with the Alderman in an advisory role as he negotiated these concessions with the executives at Chick-fil-A.  Additionally, members of TCRA spoke directly with executives at Chick-fil-A during negotiations to aid in educating their decision makers about anti-discrimination policies and issues affecting the LGBT community.

In a letter addressed to Alderman Moreno and signed by Chick-fil-A’s Senior Director of Real Estate, it states, “The WinShape Foundations is now taking a much closer look at the organizations it considers helping, and in that process will remain true to its stated philosophy of not supporting organizations with political agendas.”  Winshape, a non-profit funded by Chick-fil-a, has donated millions of dollars to anti-LGBT groups, including some classified as hate groups.  In meetings the company executives clarified that they will no longer give to anti-gay organizations.
Smart move.
Unfortante. They caved to the lefty bullies.

The Market has decided. You should be happy.
The market did not decide. Chick fil a was still pulling in plenty of money. Lefties in the media decided.
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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #355 on: September 19, 2012, 03:35:25 PM »
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September 18, 2012 – Chicago, Illinois – The Civil Rights Agenda (TCRA), Illinois’ leading lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) civil rights advocacy organization, has learned that Alderman Moreno has finalized his negotiations with Chick-Fil-A.  Alderman Moreno has confirmed that Chick-fil-A will no longer give money to anti-gay organizations and that they have clarified in an internal document that the company will treat every person equally, regardless of sexual orientation. The Civil Rights Agenda worked closely with the Alderman in an advisory role as he negotiated these concessions with the executives at Chick-fil-A.  Additionally, members of TCRA spoke directly with executives at Chick-fil-A during negotiations to aid in educating their decision makers about anti-discrimination policies and issues affecting the LGBT community.

In a letter addressed to Alderman Moreno and signed by Chick-fil-A’s Senior Director of Real Estate, it states, “The WinShape Foundations is now taking a much closer look at the organizations it considers helping, and in that process will remain true to its stated philosophy of not supporting organizations with political agendas.”  Winshape, a non-profit funded by Chick-fil-a, has donated millions of dollars to anti-LGBT groups, including some classified as hate groups.  In meetings the company executives clarified that they will no longer give to anti-gay organizations.
Smart move.
Unfortante. They caved to the lefty bullies.

The Market has decided. You should be happy.
The market did not decide. Chick fil a was still pulling in plenty of money. Lefties in the media decided.
So the media made Chick-Fil-A do something it really didn't want to do?
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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #356 on: September 19, 2012, 03:36:09 PM »
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September 18, 2012 – Chicago, Illinois – The Civil Rights Agenda (TCRA), Illinois’ leading lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) civil rights advocacy organization, has learned that Alderman Moreno has finalized his negotiations with Chick-Fil-A.  Alderman Moreno has confirmed that Chick-fil-A will no longer give money to anti-gay organizations and that they have clarified in an internal document that the company will treat every person equally, regardless of sexual orientation. The Civil Rights Agenda worked closely with the Alderman in an advisory role as he negotiated these concessions with the executives at Chick-fil-A.  Additionally, members of TCRA spoke directly with executives at Chick-fil-A during negotiations to aid in educating their decision makers about anti-discrimination policies and issues affecting the LGBT community.

In a letter addressed to Alderman Moreno and signed by Chick-fil-A’s Senior Director of Real Estate, it states, “The WinShape Foundations is now taking a much closer look at the organizations it considers helping, and in that process will remain true to its stated philosophy of not supporting organizations with political agendas.”  Winshape, a non-profit funded by Chick-fil-a, has donated millions of dollars to anti-LGBT groups, including some classified as hate groups.  In meetings the company executives clarified that they will no longer give to anti-gay organizations.
Smart move.
Unfortante. They caved to the lefty bullies.

The Market has decided. You should be happy.
The market did not decide. Chick fil a was still pulling in plenty of money. Lefties in the media decided.
So the media made Chick-Fil-A do something it really didn't want to do?
Just the weak sticks in the corporation.
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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #357 on: September 19, 2012, 03:44:15 PM »
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September 18, 2012 – Chicago, Illinois – The Civil Rights Agenda (TCRA), Illinois’ leading lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) civil rights advocacy organization, has learned that Alderman Moreno has finalized his negotiations with Chick-Fil-A.  Alderman Moreno has confirmed that Chick-fil-A will no longer give money to anti-gay organizations and that they have clarified in an internal document that the company will treat every person equally, regardless of sexual orientation. The Civil Rights Agenda worked closely with the Alderman in an advisory role as he negotiated these concessions with the executives at Chick-fil-A.  Additionally, members of TCRA spoke directly with executives at Chick-fil-A during negotiations to aid in educating their decision makers about anti-discrimination policies and issues affecting the LGBT community.

In a letter addressed to Alderman Moreno and signed by Chick-fil-A’s Senior Director of Real Estate, it states, “The WinShape Foundations is now taking a much closer look at the organizations it considers helping, and in that process will remain true to its stated philosophy of not supporting organizations with political agendas.”  Winshape, a non-profit funded by Chick-fil-a, has donated millions of dollars to anti-LGBT groups, including some classified as hate groups.  In meetings the company executives clarified that they will no longer give to anti-gay organizations.
Smart move.
Unfortante. They caved to the lefty bullies.

The Market has decided. You should be happy.
The market did not decide. Chick fil a was still pulling in plenty of money. Lefties in the media decided.

This is the naivete of you invisible hand types. The market always decides. The invisible hand operates within the media, government, labor unions, communists, etc.

You just like the invisible within your own image.

Adam Smith has the tautological insight of a Taoist.
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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #358 on: September 19, 2012, 04:55:13 PM »
Chick-fil-A Ceases Anti-gay Donations, Clarifies Stance on Gay Customers & Employees

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September 18, 2012 – Chicago, Illinois – The Civil Rights Agenda (TCRA), Illinois’ leading lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) civil rights advocacy organization, has learned that Alderman Moreno has finalized his negotiations with Chick-Fil-A.  Alderman Moreno has confirmed that Chick-fil-A will no longer give money to anti-gay organizations and that they have clarified in an internal document that the company will treat every person equally, regardless of sexual orientation. The Civil Rights Agenda worked closely with the Alderman in an advisory role as he negotiated these concessions with the executives at Chick-fil-A.  Additionally, members of TCRA spoke directly with executives at Chick-fil-A during negotiations to aid in educating their decision makers about anti-discrimination policies and issues affecting the LGBT community.

In a letter addressed to Alderman Moreno and signed by Chick-fil-A’s Senior Director of Real Estate, it states, “The WinShape Foundations is now taking a much closer look at the organizations it considers helping, and in that process will remain true to its stated philosophy of not supporting organizations with political agendas.”  Winshape, a non-profit funded by Chick-fil-a, has donated millions of dollars to anti-LGBT groups, including some classified as hate groups.  In meetings the company executives clarified that they will no longer give to anti-gay organizations.
Smart move.
Unfortante. They caved to the lefty bullies.

Yes.  People seem to always cave into ignorance.  So sad.  The implosion continues. 

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Re: Gay Marriage, Testament laws, and Chick-Fil-A
« Reply #359 on: September 19, 2012, 04:56:00 PM »
Chick-fil-A Ceases Anti-gay Donations, Clarifies Stance on Gay Customers & Employees

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September 18, 2012 – Chicago, Illinois – The Civil Rights Agenda (TCRA), Illinois’ leading lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) civil rights advocacy organization, has learned that Alderman Moreno has finalized his negotiations with Chick-Fil-A.  Alderman Moreno has confirmed that Chick-fil-A will no longer give money to anti-gay organizations and that they have clarified in an internal document that the company will treat every person equally, regardless of sexual orientation. The Civil Rights Agenda worked closely with the Alderman in an advisory role as he negotiated these concessions with the executives at Chick-fil-A.  Additionally, members of TCRA spoke directly with executives at Chick-fil-A during negotiations to aid in educating their decision makers about anti-discrimination policies and issues affecting the LGBT community.

In a letter addressed to Alderman Moreno and signed by Chick-fil-A’s Senior Director of Real Estate, it states, “The WinShape Foundations is now taking a much closer look at the organizations it considers helping, and in that process will remain true to its stated philosophy of not supporting organizations with political agendas.”  Winshape, a non-profit funded by Chick-fil-a, has donated millions of dollars to anti-LGBT groups, including some classified as hate groups.  In meetings the company executives clarified that they will no longer give to anti-gay organizations.
Smart move.

What hate groups?

My thoughts exactly.  What hate groups?