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« Reply #90 on: August 03, 2012, 06:24:47 PM »


OK...that photo was NOT that big on the original site.  Sorry.

....but, it gives you a good view of the older man's face who is giving her the "look".  Wink
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« Reply #91 on: August 03, 2012, 06:25:52 PM »

You can manually resize photos by using "width=" and then the size within the img tag (hit the quote button for this post to see it). Smiley Resized...

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« Reply #92 on: August 03, 2012, 06:48:14 PM »


Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!


Here's a slightly longer clip (for as long as it's up)...

No way that is a foul on the American player. It is fair play.

Dude if that is NOT a foul, surely it should be.  Kneeing somebody in the face, even if on accident, is serious business.  All the machismo of "I've been kneed in the face too so buck it up" is not going to change that.  In the NFL culture, machismo overpowered safety and now countless player are admitting that they've hid concussions and other head injuries from coaches and officials to keep playing or out of a sense of "its not really that bad."  In high school football we are also just starting to discover the massive scale of head-injuries which occur routinely, and further starting to realize the potentially long-term effects both NFL and even just high-school playing has on the brain.  We may just find a dispproportionate amount of dementia and other degenerative disorders amongst current retiring and elder footballers.  FIFA than shouldn't just let them play, they should make a statement by even ejecting players who are so careless in play that they steam-roll over other players.  After all, these folks don't wear any kind of padding to speak of!  With the increase in athleticism and physical prowess amongst footballers, soccer is becoming an increasingly masochistic sport if you ask me Sad

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You don't understand much about soccer then. If that wasn't a goalie but a player playing another position, the kneed would get the foul.

You cannot engage in play that puts others at risk or yourself to the point that such risk might deter the player from playing as they might like.

When it comes to goalies they are given greater latitude to put themselves at risk. Frankly, this goalie's play half a second later on her part is FOUL PLAY on her. She went to the ground to contest a ball in POSSESSION of the American player. By the time she obstructed the American's play, the ball was clearly not playable by the goalie, this is problematic.

It was fair play as the ball was playable as the goalie went into her slide toward the ball.

The American didn't intentionally knee her and had no recourse than to do what she did. This is all slowed down BTW. In RT, stuff happens much more quickly.

Again the American had possession and control. When a goalie decides to contest another player in this manner, it can get ugly.

Been there, done that.

Great call on part of the official. Evidently, play was stopped to check for serious injuries (this is NOT required) and was given a restart via a drop ball.

Goalies have gained too much protection over the years. Glad to see when a goalie decides to challenge possession they are not given a white card so to speak to do whatever they want.

Again this is coming from someone who played aggressively as a goal keeper and took their lumps for doing so.  

 

Oh my brother, I am aware of the various rules, but rules can be changed, and rules that allow for players, even goalkeepers, to get hit that hard, even if by accident, is simply dangerous.  In the NBA, even if it is a straight up accident, a player could easily get ejected with a Flagrant 2 for a play like that.  Players shouldn't be allowed to disregard each others safety, regardless of a particular field position, or a machismo "let em play" approach.  Again, I understand the rules and how that play was allowed, I am just arguing that those rules and plays like that are too dangerous.  That was an ugly play, even if by accident, and players need to be more careful not to put each other at such risk.  I love sport, but I don't want to see athletes getting hurt just because of a love of competition Sad

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« Reply #93 on: August 03, 2012, 07:01:04 PM »


Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!


Here's a slightly longer clip (for as long as it's up)...

No way that is a foul on the American player. It is fair play.

Dude if that is NOT a foul, surely it should be.  Kneeing somebody in the face, even if on accident, is serious business.  All the machismo of "I've been kneed in the face too so buck it up" is not going to change that.  In the NFL culture, machismo overpowered safety and now countless player are admitting that they've hid concussions and other head injuries from coaches and officials to keep playing or out of a sense of "its not really that bad."  In high school football we are also just starting to discover the massive scale of head-injuries which occur routinely, and further starting to realize the potentially long-term effects both NFL and even just high-school playing has on the brain.  We may just find a dispproportionate amount of dementia and other degenerative disorders amongst current retiring and elder footballers.  FIFA than shouldn't just let them play, they should make a statement by even ejecting players who are so careless in play that they steam-roll over other players.  After all, these folks don't wear any kind of padding to speak of!  With the increase in athleticism and physical prowess amongst footballers, soccer is becoming an increasingly masochistic sport if you ask me Sad

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You don't understand much about soccer then. If that wasn't a goalie but a player playing another position, the kneed would get the foul.

You cannot engage in play that puts others at risk or yourself to the point that such risk might deter the player from playing as they might like.

When it comes to goalies they are given greater latitude to put themselves at risk. Frankly, this goalie's play half a second later on her part is FOUL PLAY on her. She went to the ground to contest a ball in POSSESSION of the American player. By the time she obstructed the American's play, the ball was clearly not playable by the goalie, this is problematic.

It was fair play as the ball was playable as the goalie went into her slide toward the ball.

The American didn't intentionally knee her and had no recourse than to do what she did. This is all slowed down BTW. In RT, stuff happens much more quickly.

Again the American had possession and control. When a goalie decides to contest another player in this manner, it can get ugly.

Been there, done that.

Great call on part of the official. Evidently, play was stopped to check for serious injuries (this is NOT required) and was given a restart via a drop ball.

Goalies have gained too much protection over the years. Glad to see when a goalie decides to challenge possession they are not given a white card so to speak to do whatever they want.

Again this is coming from someone who played aggressively as a goal keeper and took their lumps for doing so.  

 

Oh my brother, I am aware of the various rules, but rules can be changed, and rules that allow for players, even goalkeepers, to get hit that hard, even if by accident, is simply dangerous.  In the NBA, even if it is a straight up accident, a player could easily get ejected with a Flagrant 2 for a play like that.  Players shouldn't be allowed to disregard each others safety, regardless of a particular field position, or a machismo "let em play" approach.  Again, I understand the rules and how that play was allowed, I am just arguing that those rules and plays like that are too dangerous.  That was an ugly play, even if by accident, and players need to be more careful not to put each other at such risk.  I love sport, but I don't want to see athletes getting hurt just because of a love of competition Sad

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I think the NBA has suffered a bit due to the over protection of the shooter, especially in the air.

The way to avoid incidences like the above is for goalies not to put themselves at such risk.

There is no reason to penalize an offensive player in control of the ball just because a goalie wishes to take their chances with the player's feet.

I don't even know how you avoid such situations in soccer outside ruling against the goalie, which will never happen.

The goalie's play here is what made the situation dangerous. Nothing else.

Some kids' leagues now have the unfortunate off the book rules about giving goalies's possession of the ball if they are x steps close to the ball or some such nonsense like that in one on one situation.

Frankly, I can't believe we are discussing this about soccer which is a tame sport compared to boxing or god forbid, the NFL, both of which are great arguments for less padding in nearly any sport.

I boxed. And I got my clock cleaned a lot more often just in practice than I ever did defending goal.

Take away the head gear and the gloves. It encourages headhunting in the amateurs and doesn't allow for our natural defensives to pushing the repeated pummeling of a skull with the small bones of the hand and wrist or the ending of a match due to excessive bleeding.

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« Reply #94 on: August 03, 2012, 07:11:45 PM »

Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

Here's a slightly longer clip (for as long as it's up)...

No way that is a foul on the American player. It is fair play.

Dude if that is NOT a foul, surely it should be.  Kneeing somebody in the face, even if on accident, is serious business.  All the machismo of "I've been kneed in the face too so buck it up" is not going to change that.  In the NFL culture, machismo overpowered safety and now countless player are admitting that they've hid concussions and other head injuries from coaches and officials to keep playing or out of a sense of "its not really that bad."  In high school football we are also just starting to discover the massive scale of head-injuries which occur routinely, and further starting to realize the potentially long-term effects both NFL and even just high-school playing has on the brain.  We may just find a dispproportionate amount of dementia and other degenerative disorders amongst current retiring and elder footballers.  FIFA than shouldn't just let them play, they should make a statement by even ejecting players who are so careless in play that they steam-roll over other players.  After all, these folks don't wear any kind of padding to speak of!  With the increase in athleticism and physical prowess amongst footballers, soccer is becoming an increasingly masochistic sport if you ask me Sad

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It is obvious that you have no clue about this game. (For the record, I played, coached and refereed soccer). The goalies play was reckless and posed a danger to both herself and the attacking player. I have done exactly the same thing, and, not only was I red-carded, the attackers got a penalty kick against our second string goalie. Double whammy but in accordance with the rules.
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« Reply #95 on: August 03, 2012, 07:18:02 PM »

Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

Here's a slightly longer clip (for as long as it's up)...

No way that is a foul on the American player. It is fair play.

Dude if that is NOT a foul, surely it should be.  Kneeing somebody in the face, even if on accident, is serious business.  All the machismo of "I've been kneed in the face too so buck it up" is not going to change that.  In the NFL culture, machismo overpowered safety and now countless player are admitting that they've hid concussions and other head injuries from coaches and officials to keep playing or out of a sense of "its not really that bad."  In high school football we are also just starting to discover the massive scale of head-injuries which occur routinely, and further starting to realize the potentially long-term effects both NFL and even just high-school playing has on the brain.  We may just find a dispproportionate amount of dementia and other degenerative disorders amongst current retiring and elder footballers.  FIFA than shouldn't just let them play, they should make a statement by even ejecting players who are so careless in play that they steam-roll over other players.  After all, these folks don't wear any kind of padding to speak of!  With the increase in athleticism and physical prowess amongst footballers, soccer is becoming an increasingly masochistic sport if you ask me Sad

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It is obvious that you have no clue about this game. (For the record, I played, coached and refereed soccer). The goalies play was reckless and posed a danger to both herself and the attacking player. I have done exactly the same thing, and, not only was I red-carded, the attackers got a penalty kick against our second string goalie. Double whammy but in accordance with the rules.

Ballsy move on the ref's part and one I cannot disagree with.

Very hard call to make at this level of competition.

But I do agree with you. I didn't want to bring up that possibility because it seems so outrageous to those who haven't played and officiated.

EDIT: I must've misread your other post, cause I thought you were suggesting the American player was at fault.

EDIT 2: Yep. Totally misread it. Good for you for taking a strong stance.
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« Reply #96 on: August 03, 2012, 07:36:10 PM »

Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

Here's a slightly longer clip (for as long as it's up)...

No way that is a foul on the American player. It is fair play.

Dude if that is NOT a foul, surely it should be.  Kneeing somebody in the face, even if on accident, is serious business.  All the machismo of "I've been kneed in the face too so buck it up" is not going to change that.  In the NFL culture, machismo overpowered safety and now countless player are admitting that they've hid concussions and other head injuries from coaches and officials to keep playing or out of a sense of "its not really that bad."  In high school football we are also just starting to discover the massive scale of head-injuries which occur routinely, and further starting to realize the potentially long-term effects both NFL and even just high-school playing has on the brain.  We may just find a dispproportionate amount of dementia and other degenerative disorders amongst current retiring and elder footballers.  FIFA than shouldn't just let them play, they should make a statement by even ejecting players who are so careless in play that they steam-roll over other players.  After all, these folks don't wear any kind of padding to speak of!  With the increase in athleticism and physical prowess amongst footballers, soccer is becoming an increasingly masochistic sport if you ask me Sad

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It is obvious that you have no clue about this game. (For the record, I played, coached and refereed soccer). The goalies play was reckless and posed a danger to both herself and the attacking player. I have done exactly the same thing, and, not only was I red-carded, the attackers got a penalty kick against our second string goalie. Double whammy but in accordance with the rules.

Ballsy move on the ref's part and one I cannot disagree with.

Very hard call to make at this level of competition.

But I do agree with you. I didn't want to bring up that possibility because it seems so outrageous to those who haven't played and officiated.

EDIT: I must've misread your other post, cause I thought you were suggesting the American player was at fault.

EDIT 2: Yep. Totally misread it. Good for you for taking a strong stance.

Regarding the foul on Morgan, there should have been no way that it was missed by the ref or side judge. So, unless FIFA has changed the rules, this was a huge mistake by the ref team. I think they should be disciplined for the safety of the players and the good of the sport.

Regarding the deliberate sucker punching of Wambach by the Bolivian player, the refs may well have not noticed. But, FIFA officials after reviewing the film ought to discipline the Bolivian coach and player. Life time ban would be just fine by me.

And, since I am ranting, FIFA should take firm and decisive action against the soft players who pretend to have been fouled and injured. Start with Renaldo, please!

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« Reply #97 on: August 03, 2012, 07:42:35 PM »

Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

Here's a slightly longer clip (for as long as it's up)...

No way that is a foul on the American player. It is fair play.

Dude if that is NOT a foul, surely it should be.  Kneeing somebody in the face, even if on accident, is serious business.  All the machismo of "I've been kneed in the face too so buck it up" is not going to change that.  In the NFL culture, machismo overpowered safety and now countless player are admitting that they've hid concussions and other head injuries from coaches and officials to keep playing or out of a sense of "its not really that bad."  In high school football we are also just starting to discover the massive scale of head-injuries which occur routinely, and further starting to realize the potentially long-term effects both NFL and even just high-school playing has on the brain.  We may just find a dispproportionate amount of dementia and other degenerative disorders amongst current retiring and elder footballers.  FIFA than shouldn't just let them play, they should make a statement by even ejecting players who are so careless in play that they steam-roll over other players.  After all, these folks don't wear any kind of padding to speak of!  With the increase in athleticism and physical prowess amongst footballers, soccer is becoming an increasingly masochistic sport if you ask me Sad

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It is obvious that you have no clue about this game. (For the record, I played, coached and refereed soccer). The goalies play was reckless and posed a danger to both herself and the attacking player. I have done exactly the same thing, and, not only was I red-carded, the attackers got a penalty kick against our second string goalie. Double whammy but in accordance with the rules.

Ballsy move on the ref's part and one I cannot disagree with.

Very hard call to make at this level of competition.

But I do agree with you. I didn't want to bring up that possibility because it seems so outrageous to those who haven't played and officiated.

EDIT: I must've misread your other post, cause I thought you were suggesting the American player was at fault.

EDIT 2: Yep. Totally misread it. Good for you for taking a strong stance.

Regarding the foul on Morgan, there should have been no way that it was missed by the ref or side judge. So, unless FIFA has changed the rules, this was a huge mistake by the ref team. I think they should be disciplined for the safety of the players and the good of the sport.

Regarding the deliberate sucker punching of Wambach by the Bolivian player, the refs may well have not noticed. But, FIFA officials after reviewing the film ought to discipline the Bolivian coach and player. Life time ban would be just fine by me.

And, since I am ranting, FIFA should take firm and decisive action against the soft players who pretend to have been fouled and injured. Start with Renaldo, please!

I am Carl Kraeff and I approved this posting. Grin

I can't afford money or time wise to keep up with the sport anymore, although I would like to find a way to sanely do so.

I haven't seen the sucker punch. LOL. I can't imagine.

Wish I could see all the soccer, boxing, and wrestling matches (perhaps volleyball), but this time around I don't have the time or access.

Last Summer Games, I watched EVERY boxing match. And it made just get angrier at the state amateur boxing and scoring.

Well Second, we found some common ground. Awesome.
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« Reply #98 on: August 03, 2012, 08:40:56 PM »

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Second Chance, thank you for clarifying, but you and orthonorm both missed my point in your arguments about the legality of the play.  I wasn't arguing that the play was illegal, I was saying regardless of the rules it was dangerous.  You pointed out the goalkeeper took the dangerous risk, true, I agree, and perhaps as you suggested it should have been her who was carded.  However like wise the offending knee clearly had a solid follow-through even when she knew the goalkeeper was sliding under her. In the NBA its that kind of follow-through that can make even an accident a Flagrant 2 and an ejection, so I say either player or both should have been penalized if not ejected.   Ejections make a big statement about risky plays, if the goalkeeper knew she would face a serious penalty she perhaps might not have taken the risk of that dangerous play, and likewise the offending knee might have been a touch more careful Wink

I agree with you about your comments in Reply 96, that essentially is my same vibe about this play also.  It wasn't that it was illegal or against the rules, its that it was dangerous and risky, as we have already agreed. Its perhaps who is at fault that we are debating.

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« Reply #99 on: August 03, 2012, 08:56:53 PM »

I also agree with GMK.  Not for the points so much as for the USA team are professionals.  College students should be competing, not people whose only purpose in life is to compete at the sport.

Every country has professionals competing in all the sports.  Let's not put all the blame on the US for stacking the deck when it's allowed (although let me be clear: it's a pretty sad thing to do).  Blame the IOCC for allowing professionals to compete in the first place.
If that is where the blame belongs.  But if it is open to all professionals from all nations, I suppose there is no complaint to be made.
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« Reply #100 on: August 04, 2012, 12:07:30 AM »

And now for something completely different:

U.S. swimmer Ryan Lochte admits to putting the "P" in pool. laugh

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/olympics-fourth-place-medal/ryan-lochte-used-olympic-pool-purposes-other-swimming-204307621--oly.html
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« Reply #101 on: August 04, 2012, 04:17:21 AM »

Respect to the female Muslim athletes in these Olympics who have not sacrificed their modesty or convictions for a competative advantage. Some have been victorious, and some have been defeated in contest; but they're all winners in my book! Thank you for showing the world that feminine strength and beauty does not mean compromising modesty and virtue. You are an example to all women everywhere! (This is not an endorsement of Islam, but simply an acknowledgement of the virtue and modesty that God desires for all women to embrace.)








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« Reply #102 on: August 04, 2012, 03:24:14 PM »

Respect to the female Muslim athletes in these Olympics who have not sacrificed their modesty or convictions for a competative advantage. Some have been victorious, and some have been defeated in contest; but they're all winners in my book! Thank you for showing the world that feminine strength and beauty does not mean compromising modesty and virtue. You are an example to all women everywhere! (This is not an endorsement of Islam, but simply an acknowledgement of the virtue and modesty that God desires for all women to embrace.)



So the men have license to run around naked?
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« Reply #103 on: August 04, 2012, 03:30:01 PM »

I was raised (mostly through influence of my grandfather) in the school of thought of "don't embarrass your opponents". However, what were they supposed to do, miss on purpose, or stand with the ball until the clock shot ran out and hand the ball over? They had to keep playing, it's not their fault that everything was going in. There were no "3rd string" low caliber guys to put in.

The point is, these guys should defer to our high school players or at least a "dream team" of college freshman. The USA would still win gold 98% of the time, but at least the games would be a bit more competative and the USA wouldn't look so ridiculous for showing off in this manner. But alas, such is not the "American way." Might makes right and dollars determine values.


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Well, bud, it looks as if there are some good international teams who are not intimidated by our basketball prowess and are more than able to give our team a good scare. Take Lithuania, for instance.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/olympics-fourth-place-medal/behind-box-score-where-lebron-james-led-team-161225606--oly.html

It took some more of LeBron James's clutch play down the stretch to eke out a come-from-behind nailbiter against the Lithuanian squad. Team USA 99, Lithuania 94.
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« Reply #104 on: August 04, 2012, 03:32:35 PM »


Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

I was raised (mostly through influence of my grandfather) in the school of thought of "don't embarrass your opponents". However, what were they supposed to do, miss on purpose, or stand with the ball until the clock shot ran out and hand the ball over? They had to keep playing, it's not their fault that everything was going in. There were no "3rd string" low caliber guys to put in.

The point is, these guys should defer to our high school players or at least a "dream team" of college freshman. The USA would still win gold 98% of the time, but at least the games would be a bit more competative and the USA wouldn't look so ridiculous for showing off in this manner. But alas, such is not the "American way." Might makes right and dollars determine values.


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Well, bud, it looks as if there are some good international teams who are not intimidated by our basketball prowess and are more than able to give our team a good scare. Take Lithuania, for instance.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/olympics-fourth-place-medal/behind-box-score-where-lebron-james-led-team-161225606--oly.html

It took some more of LeBron James's clutch play down the stretch to eke out a come-from-behind nailbiter against the Lithuanian squad. Team USA 99, Lithuania 94.

Yeah all that clutch fourth quarter play that the haterz denied Lebron had all these years..  Aside from in his first two Finals appearances, Lebron has statistically been one of the most clutch players in the NBA in the past 25 years!

I'm excited about the Spain-Brazil match in their group game on Monday, it determines who is going to the Quarters now that Russia has clinched the group.

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« Reply #105 on: August 05, 2012, 02:10:06 AM »

I was raised (mostly through influence of my grandfather) in the school of thought of "don't embarrass your opponents". However, what were they supposed to do, miss on purpose, or stand with the ball until the clock shot ran out and hand the ball over? They had to keep playing, it's not their fault that everything was going in. There were no "3rd string" low caliber guys to put in.

The point is, these guys should defer to our high school players or at least a "dream team" of college freshman. The USA would still win gold 98% of the time, but at least the games would be a bit more competative and the USA wouldn't look so ridiculous for showing off in this manner. But alas, such is not the "American way." Might makes right and dollars determine values.


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Well, bud, it looks as if there are some good international teams who are not intimidated by our basketball prowess and are more than able to give our team a good scare. Take Lithuania, for instance.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/olympics-fourth-place-medal/behind-box-score-where-lebron-james-led-team-161225606--oly.html

It took some more of LeBron James's clutch play down the stretch to eke out a come-from-behind nailbiter against the Lithuanian squad. Team USA 99, Lithuania 94.

I think that a "dream team" of college freshman or high school all stars may have beaten Lithuania by a larger margin than these NBA stars did. They would have played 100% all out the entire game. These NBA guys could afford to coast, get behind, and still pull out the victory. So one close game doesn't change my opinion.


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« Reply #106 on: August 05, 2012, 02:30:56 AM »

I was raised (mostly through influence of my grandfather) in the school of thought of "don't embarrass your opponents". However, what were they supposed to do, miss on purpose, or stand with the ball until the clock shot ran out and hand the ball over? They had to keep playing, it's not their fault that everything was going in. There were no "3rd string" low caliber guys to put in.

The point is, these guys should defer to our high school players or at least a "dream team" of college freshman. The USA would still win gold 98% of the time, but at least the games would be a bit more competative and the USA wouldn't look so ridiculous for showing off in this manner. But alas, such is not the "American way." Might makes right and dollars determine values.


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Well, bud, it looks as if there are some good international teams who are not intimidated by our basketball prowess and are more than able to give our team a good scare. Take Lithuania, for instance.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/olympics-fourth-place-medal/behind-box-score-where-lebron-james-led-team-161225606--oly.html

It took some more of LeBron James's clutch play down the stretch to eke out a come-from-behind nailbiter against the Lithuanian squad. Team USA 99, Lithuania 94.

I think that a "dream team" of college freshman or high school all stars may have beaten Lithuania by a larger margin than these NBA stars did. They would have played 100% all out the entire game. These NBA guys could afford to coast, get behind, and still pull out the victory. So one close game doesn't change my opinion.
Yeah, your opinion lost all credibility with me when you made that totally ridiculous comparison of sending a Dream Team to the Olympics with making war an Olympic sport and bombing our enemies into oblivion. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #107 on: August 05, 2012, 02:34:50 AM »

I was raised (mostly through influence of my grandfather) in the school of thought of "don't embarrass your opponents". However, what were they supposed to do, miss on purpose, or stand with the ball until the clock shot ran out and hand the ball over? They had to keep playing, it's not their fault that everything was going in. There were no "3rd string" low caliber guys to put in.

The point is, these guys should defer to our high school players or at least a "dream team" of college freshman. The USA would still win gold 98% of the time, but at least the games would be a bit more competative and the USA wouldn't look so ridiculous for showing off in this manner. But alas, such is not the "American way." Might makes right and dollars determine values.


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Well, bud, it looks as if there are some good international teams who are not intimidated by our basketball prowess and are more than able to give our team a good scare. Take Lithuania, for instance.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/olympics-fourth-place-medal/behind-box-score-where-lebron-james-led-team-161225606--oly.html

It took some more of LeBron James's clutch play down the stretch to eke out a come-from-behind nailbiter against the Lithuanian squad. Team USA 99, Lithuania 94.

I think that a "dream team" of college freshman or high school all stars may have beaten Lithuania by a larger margin than these NBA stars did. They would have played 100% all out the entire game. These NBA guys could afford to coast, get behind, and still pull out the victory. So one close game doesn't change my opinion.
Yeah, your opinion lost all credibility with me when you made that totally ridiculous comparison of sending a Dream Team to the Olympics with making war an Olympic sport and bombing our enemies into oblivion. Roll Eyes


Your the one that made a "might makes right" argument by saying it's the weaker nations own fault that they can't compete.  And BTW, I'm not too concerned with maintaining credibility in your eyes my friend. Wink


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« Reply #108 on: August 05, 2012, 02:42:20 AM »

I was raised (mostly through influence of my grandfather) in the school of thought of "don't embarrass your opponents". However, what were they supposed to do, miss on purpose, or stand with the ball until the clock shot ran out and hand the ball over? They had to keep playing, it's not their fault that everything was going in. There were no "3rd string" low caliber guys to put in.

The point is, these guys should defer to our high school players or at least a "dream team" of college freshman. The USA would still win gold 98% of the time, but at least the games would be a bit more competative and the USA wouldn't look so ridiculous for showing off in this manner. But alas, such is not the "American way." Might makes right and dollars determine values.


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Well, bud, it looks as if there are some good international teams who are not intimidated by our basketball prowess and are more than able to give our team a good scare. Take Lithuania, for instance.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/olympics-fourth-place-medal/behind-box-score-where-lebron-james-led-team-161225606--oly.html

It took some more of LeBron James's clutch play down the stretch to eke out a come-from-behind nailbiter against the Lithuanian squad. Team USA 99, Lithuania 94.

I think that a "dream team" of college freshman or high school all stars may have beaten Lithuania by a larger margin than these NBA stars did. They would have played 100% all out the entire game. These NBA guys could afford to coast, get behind, and still pull out the victory. So one close game doesn't change my opinion.
Yeah, your opinion lost all credibility with me when you made that totally ridiculous comparison of sending a Dream Team to the Olympics with making war an Olympic sport and bombing our enemies into oblivion. Roll Eyes


Your the one that made a "might makes right" argument by saying it's the weaker nations own fault that they can't compete.
Dude, this is sports. In sports, "enemy combatants" rarely ever die. Your comparing an Olympic sport to war, where enemy combatants often send each other home in body bags, is one of the stupidest arguments you've ever made on this forum, and you've made a lot of stupid arguments. Besides, I never said it was Nigeria's fault they couldn't compete; I just said that it was NOT the Americans' faults Nigeria was so bad they couldn't compete with them. But what is that distinction to someone who often gets so caught up in his emotions that he doesn't take the time to comprehend simple logic?

And BTW, I'm not too concerned with maintaining credibility in your eyes my friend. Wink
I can tell. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #110 on: August 05, 2012, 02:50:35 AM »

I was raised (mostly through influence of my grandfather) in the school of thought of "don't embarrass your opponents". However, what were they supposed to do, miss on purpose, or stand with the ball until the clock shot ran out and hand the ball over? They had to keep playing, it's not their fault that everything was going in. There were no "3rd string" low caliber guys to put in.

The point is, these guys should defer to our high school players or at least a "dream team" of college freshman. The USA would still win gold 98% of the time, but at least the games would be a bit more competative and the USA wouldn't look so ridiculous for showing off in this manner. But alas, such is not the "American way." Might makes right and dollars determine values.


Selam
Well, bud, it looks as if there are some good international teams who are not intimidated by our basketball prowess and are more than able to give our team a good scare. Take Lithuania, for instance.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/olympics-fourth-place-medal/behind-box-score-where-lebron-james-led-team-161225606--oly.html

It took some more of LeBron James's clutch play down the stretch to eke out a come-from-behind nailbiter against the Lithuanian squad. Team USA 99, Lithuania 94.

I think that a "dream team" of college freshman or high school all stars may have beaten Lithuania by a larger margin than these NBA stars did. They would have played 100% all out the entire game. These NBA guys could afford to coast, get behind, and still pull out the victory. So one close game doesn't change my opinion.
Yeah, your opinion lost all credibility with me when you made that totally ridiculous comparison of sending a Dream Team to the Olympics with making war an Olympic sport and bombing our enemies into oblivion. Roll Eyes


Your the one that made a "might makes right" argument by saying it's the weaker nations own fault that they can't compete.
Dude, this is sports. In sports, "enemy combatants" rarely ever die. Your comparing an Olympic sport to war, where enemy combatants often send each other home in body bags, is one of the stupidest arguments you've ever made on this forum, and you've made a lot of stupid arguments. Besides, I never said it was Nigeria's fault they couldn't compete; I just said that it was NOT the Americans' faults Nigeria was so bad they couldn't compete with them. But what is that distinction to someone who often gets so caught up in his emotions that he doesn't take the time to comprehend simple logic?

And BTW, I'm not too concerned with maintaining credibility in your eyes my friend. Wink
I can tell. Roll Eyes


I made other analogies as well Peter, which you well know. Yes, I made an argument of absurdity to highlight the absurdity. But you conveniently ignored the other examples I provided and magnified one aspect of my argument in order to portray me in a false light. Disingenuous and petty of you. But let's get back to talking about the Olympics now.


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« Reply #111 on: August 05, 2012, 04:39:21 AM »

I was raised (mostly through influence of my grandfather) in the school of thought of "don't embarrass your opponents". However, what were they supposed to do, miss on purpose, or stand with the ball until the clock shot ran out and hand the ball over? They had to keep playing, it's not their fault that everything was going in. There were no "3rd string" low caliber guys to put in.

The point is, these guys should defer to our high school players or at least a "dream team" of college freshman. The USA would still win gold 98% of the time, but at least the games would be a bit more competative and the USA wouldn't look so ridiculous for showing off in this manner. But alas, such is not the "American way." Might makes right and dollars determine values.


Selam
Well, bud, it looks as if there are some good international teams who are not intimidated by our basketball prowess and are more than able to give our team a good scare. Take Lithuania, for instance.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/olympics-fourth-place-medal/behind-box-score-where-lebron-james-led-team-161225606--oly.html

It took some more of LeBron James's clutch play down the stretch to eke out a come-from-behind nailbiter against the Lithuanian squad. Team USA 99, Lithuania 94.

I think that a "dream team" of college freshman or high school all stars may have beaten Lithuania by a larger margin than these NBA stars did. They would have played 100% all out the entire game. These NBA guys could afford to coast, get behind, and still pull out the victory. So one close game doesn't change my opinion.
Yeah, your opinion lost all credibility with me when you made that totally ridiculous comparison of sending a Dream Team to the Olympics with making war an Olympic sport and bombing our enemies into oblivion. Roll Eyes


Your the one that made a "might makes right" argument by saying it's the weaker nations own fault that they can't compete.
Dude, this is sports. In sports, "enemy combatants" rarely ever die. Your comparing an Olympic sport to war, where enemy combatants often send each other home in body bags, is one of the stupidest arguments you've ever made on this forum, and you've made a lot of stupid arguments. Besides, I never said it was Nigeria's fault they couldn't compete; I just said that it was NOT the Americans' faults Nigeria was so bad they couldn't compete with them. But what is that distinction to someone who often gets so caught up in his emotions that he doesn't take the time to comprehend simple logic?

And BTW, I'm not too concerned with maintaining credibility in your eyes my friend. Wink
I can tell. Roll Eyes


I made other analogies as well Peter, which you well know. Yes, I made an argument of absurdity to highlight the absurdity. But you conveniently ignored the other examples I provided and magnified one aspect of my argument in order to portray me in a false light. Disingenuous and petty of you. But let's get back to talking about the Olympics now.
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« Reply #112 on: August 05, 2012, 01:04:23 PM »

Another proud olympic moment:  Serena Williams celebrates her victory by doing the "Crip Walk:

"http://msn.foxsports.com/olympics/tennis/story/serena-williams-taints-golden-slam-with-crip-walk-dance-080412

While I am a proud American, actions like this make me cringe.
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« Reply #113 on: August 05, 2012, 08:41:15 PM »

I was raised (mostly through influence of my grandfather) in the school of thought of "don't embarrass your opponents". However, what were they supposed to do, miss on purpose, or stand with the ball until the clock shot ran out and hand the ball over? They had to keep playing, it's not their fault that everything was going in. There were no "3rd string" low caliber guys to put in.

The point is, these guys should defer to our high school players or at least a "dream team" of college freshman. The USA would still win gold 98% of the time, but at least the games would be a bit more competative and the USA wouldn't look so ridiculous for showing off in this manner. But alas, such is not the "American way." Might makes right and dollars determine values.


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Well, bud, it looks as if there are some good international teams who are not intimidated by our basketball prowess and are more than able to give our team a good scare. Take Lithuania, for instance.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/olympics-fourth-place-medal/behind-box-score-where-lebron-james-led-team-161225606--oly.html

It took some more of LeBron James's clutch play down the stretch to eke out a come-from-behind nailbiter against the Lithuanian squad. Team USA 99, Lithuania 94.

I think that a "dream team" of college freshman or high school all stars may have beaten Lithuania by a larger margin than these NBA stars did. They would have played 100% all out the entire game. These NBA guys could afford to coast, get behind, and still pull out the victory. So one close game doesn't change my opinion.
Yeah, your opinion lost all credibility with me when you made that totally ridiculous comparison of sending a Dream Team to the Olympics with making war an Olympic sport and bombing our enemies into oblivion. Roll Eyes


Your the one that made a "might makes right" argument by saying it's the weaker nations own fault that they can't compete.
Dude, this is sports. In sports, "enemy combatants" rarely ever die. Your comparing an Olympic sport to war, where enemy combatants often send each other home in body bags, is one of the stupidest arguments you've ever made on this forum, and you've made a lot of stupid arguments. Besides, I never said it was Nigeria's fault they couldn't compete; I just said that it was NOT the Americans' faults Nigeria was so bad they couldn't compete with them. But what is that distinction to someone who often gets so caught up in his emotions that he doesn't take the time to comprehend simple logic?

And BTW, I'm not too concerned with maintaining credibility in your eyes my friend. Wink
I can tell. Roll Eyes


I made other analogies as well Peter, which you well know. Yes, I made an argument of absurdity to highlight the absurdity. But you conveniently ignored the other examples I provided and magnified one aspect of my argument in order to portray me in a false light. Disingenuous and petty of you. But let's get back to talking about the Olympics now.
It only takes one rotten apple to spoil the whole barrel. Likewise, it only takes one ridiculous argument to show that you're full of emotional hyperbole and not to be taken seriously.

Moving on...


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« Reply #114 on: August 05, 2012, 09:10:40 PM »

Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

Another proud olympic moment:  Serena Williams celebrates her victory by doing the "Crip Walk:

"http://msn.foxsports.com/olympics/tennis/story/serena-williams-taints-golden-slam-with-crip-walk-dance-080412

While I am a proud American, actions like this make me cringe.

Maybe its just a bit culture shock for you but why? She is just expressing herself! Serena was born and raised in Compton, and that is just how we boogie hear on the Eastside! The C-walk is not exclusively gang-oriented, its just a dance style from LA. Oh, yeah it is VERY popular with WHOLE lot of British white kidsWink )I thought it was absolutely BRILLIANT of her to bring a bit of flavor to Wimbeldon!!  



Get yo walk on Serena girl you earned it yo!

Its not everyday that two poor little black girls from the ghetto absolutely DOMINATE a traditionally upper echelon, high dollar sport.  Its like The Game said, "I chill up on the courts were Serena and Venus used to play tennis.."

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« Reply #115 on: August 05, 2012, 10:53:08 PM »

I've been watching a lot of the NBC soccer channel over the last week or two... is this gonna continue after the olympics like the Fox soccer channel, or is it only during the olympics?
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« Reply #116 on: August 05, 2012, 11:02:39 PM »

Habte, please do not take offense, but you appear to be woefully uninformed.  It is not her doing a silly dance that is cringe-worthy;  it is her doing a silly dance widely associated with, and known to have originated with, the Crips (it is called the Crip-Walk).  In case you were not aware, the Crips is a violent drug gang.  

Celebrating a very difficult to obtain accomplishment with actions that are recognized as a trademark of a violent drug gang diminishes her, and reflects poorly upon her countrymen.  If Serena celebrated her win with a Nazi salute, would you still be praising her exuberance and joy?
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Usain Bolt!
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« Reply #118 on: August 06, 2012, 12:33:02 AM »

Usain Bolt!

INDEED SIR!

Congratulations to Jamaica's Usain Bolt, the most dominant sprinter EVER!!!

                       "Walk... Jog... Run... Sprint... BOLT!"

(In honor of his accomplishment, here's "Rise To The Occasion" by Sizzla Kalonji.)
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« Reply #119 on: August 06, 2012, 01:31:23 AM »

Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

Habte, please do not take offense, but you appear to be woefully uninformed.  It is not her doing a silly dance that is cringe-worthy;  it is her doing a silly dance widely associated with, and known to have originated with, the Crips (it is called the Crip-Walk).  In case you were not aware, the Crips is a violent drug gang.  

Celebrating a very difficult to obtain accomplishment with actions that are recognized as a trademark of a violent drug gang diminishes her, and reflects poorly upon her countrymen.  If Serena celebrated her win with a Nazi salute, would you still be praising her exuberance and joy?

Like I said, in case you weren't aware, the C-walk is no longer just for gangsters, it is evolved to what is called the California Walk and it also a legitimate dance kids learn in dance studios now.  Further, it is very popular in the UK and in London, amongst white kids of no gang affiliation in particular, which I suppose makes it all the more appropriate to do at the London games.  What is actually really funny is that if you try to YouTube search "C-walk" or even "Crip walk" more pages of suburban white kids who like to break dance come up that any actual Crips!!  Maybe its a generational gap, but I C-walk all the time, and I am not nor have I have I ever been ever remotely associated with the Crips, its just a really fun dance.  Its an LA thang  which apparently London has picked up Wink

Did you check the link I posted? Those UK kids were hardly Crips!

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« Reply #120 on: August 06, 2012, 02:20:58 AM »

Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

Habte, please do not take offense, but you appear to be woefully uninformed.  It is not her doing a silly dance that is cringe-worthy;  it is her doing a silly dance widely associated with, and known to have originated with, the Crips (it is called the Crip-Walk).  In case you were not aware, the Crips is a violent drug gang.  

Celebrating a very difficult to obtain accomplishment with actions that are recognized as a trademark of a violent drug gang diminishes her, and reflects poorly upon her countrymen.  If Serena celebrated her win with a Nazi salute, would you still be praising her exuberance and joy?

Like I said, in case you weren't aware, the C-walk is no longer just for gangsters, it is evolved to what is called the California Walk and it also a legitimate dance kids learn in dance studios now.  Further, it is very popular in the UK and in London, amongst white kids of no gang affiliation in particular, which I suppose makes it all the more appropriate to do at the London games.  What is actually really funny is that if you try to YouTube search "C-walk" or even "Crip walk" more pages of suburban white kids who like to break dance come up that any actual Crips!!  Maybe its a generational gap, but I C-walk all the time, and I am not nor have I have I ever been ever remotely associated with the Crips, its just a really fun dance.  Its an LA thang  which apparently London has picked up Wink

Did you check the link I posted? Those UK kids were hardly Crips!

stay blessed,
habte selassie


I think I'll defintely take your word for it brother, since you actually live in the community where this originated and evolved.

As for the Williams sisters... they are incredible, and they have dominated women's tennis. Their story is amazing. Growing up in Compton practicing on dilapidated tennis courts while gang members guarded them. They deserve their props, and they deserve to have fun and show their spirit.

That being said, I have lost respect for them over the years. They used to be devout Jehovah's Witnesses (yes, I know it's a heretical religion) and were very modest and humble. But I guess fame corrupts most people, and over time their tennis outfits got smaller as their heads got bigger. And Serena's shameful verbal assault on that chair umpire was inexcusable. I loved Venus and Serena in their early years, but I've soured on them. I doubt they care what I think though.


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« Reply #121 on: August 06, 2012, 05:56:32 PM »

Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

Second Chance, thank you for clarifying, but you and orthonorm both missed my point in your arguments about the legality of the play.  I wasn't arguing that the play was illegal, I was saying regardless of the rules it was dangerous.  You pointed out the goalkeeper took the dangerous risk, true, I agree, and perhaps as you suggested it should have been her who was carded.  However like wise the offending knee clearly had a solid follow-through even when she knew the goalkeeper was sliding under her. In the NBA its that kind of follow-through that can make even an accident a Flagrant 2 and an ejection, so I say either player or both should have been penalized if not ejected.   Ejections make a big statement about risky plays, if the goalkeeper knew she would face a serious penalty she perhaps might not have taken the risk of that dangerous play, and likewise the offending knee might have been a touch more careful Wink

I agree with you about your comments in Reply 96, that essentially is my same vibe about this play also.  It wasn't that it was illegal or against the rules, its that it was dangerous and risky, as we have already agreed. Its perhaps who is at fault that we are debating.

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Sorry, I missed this. Let me respond. The attacker (Morgan) was running full tilt with the ball. The NZ goalie threw her whole body in front of her. As you know you cannot tackle except with your feet and you cannot do so in a dangerous fashion and for the tackle to be successful, you have to touch the ball first. I am not here arguing my original point that the goalie committed a flagrant foul that called for a red-card and a penalty kick. I am just setting the scene. Morgan could either try to avoid the collision by leaping over the goalie or she could have crashed into her. She chose to leap over; she did not choose to knee the goalie's head. That contact was accidental and caused Morgan injury (ever heard of the dead leg syndrome?).
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« Reply #122 on: August 06, 2012, 06:01:37 PM »

If I was a nose-picker I think I would take the Olympics off. Something about the world watching me pick my nose... just seems like I'd pass on that opportunity. Apparently that opinion isn't widely shared though.
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« Reply #123 on: August 06, 2012, 07:08:37 PM »

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Team Stats   USA       ARG
Shooting   45-88 (.511)       33-65 (.508)
3PT Shooting   20-40 (.500)       10-26 (.385)
Free Throws   16-20 (.800)       21-28 (.750)
Rebounds   19-46       7-28
Assists   25       15
Steals   11       2
Blocks   3       1
Turnovers   8       16
ESPN.com

While USA clearly played better offense than Argentina, it seems that defense played an equally big role because Argentina's offense wasn't all that bad with above .500 shooting and a free-throw advantage.  However US not only had almost a 2-1 advantage on assists (i.e, spreading the floor) but clearly picked up the defense with 11-2 steals, 3-1 blocks, and having pushed 16 turnovers and only committed 8 themselves.  It looks like defense is becoming the name of the game in the post-2010s era..


Morgan could either try to avoid the collision by leaping over the goalie or she could have crashed into her. She chose to leap over; she did not choose to knee the goalie's head. That contact was accidental and caused Morgan injury (ever heard of the dead leg syndrome?).

On reviewing the replays I agree with you, it does seem that she did try to avoid the collision, and that the follow through swing of her knees was just the forward motion and therefore unavoidable.  It is just a drag to see such a hard hit, legal, accidental, or otherwise Sad

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« Reply #124 on: August 06, 2012, 08:02:48 PM »

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Team Stats   USA       ARG
Shooting   45-88 (.511)       33-65 (.508)
3PT Shooting   20-40 (.500)       10-26 (.385)
Free Throws   16-20 (.800)       21-28 (.750)
Rebounds   19-46       7-28
Assists   25       15
Steals   11       2
Blocks   3       1
Turnovers   8       16
ESPN.com

While USA clearly played better offense than Argentina, it seems that defense played an equally big role because Argentina's offense wasn't all that bad with above .500 shooting and a free-throw advantage.  However US not only had almost a 2-1 advantage on assists (i.e, spreading the floor) but clearly picked up the defense with 11-2 steals, 3-1 blocks, and having pushed 16 turnovers and only committed 8 themselves.  It looks like defense is becoming the name of the game in the post-2010s era..


Morgan could either try to avoid the collision by leaping over the goalie or she could have crashed into her. She chose to leap over; she did not choose to knee the goalie's head. That contact was accidental and caused Morgan injury (ever heard of the dead leg syndrome?).

On reviewing the replays I agree with you, it does seem that she did try to avoid the collision, and that the follow through swing of her knees was just the forward motion and therefore unavoidable.  It is just a drag to see such a hard hit, legal, accidental, or otherwise Sad

stay blessed,
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I haven't seen any of the games. From what I hear, it sounds like they've yet to really put much into defense and are relying on sheer offensive domination.

True or False.
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« Reply #125 on: August 06, 2012, 08:04:38 PM »

Are we keeping count of medals won by Orthodox Christians?  The Armenians just got two, a silver for wrestling and a bronze for women's weightlifting.  The woman who got the bronze is named Hripsime, the name of the saint in my avatar.  We have a whole thread on her in the OO section.

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« Reply #126 on: August 06, 2012, 08:45:28 PM »

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Team Stats   USA       ARG
Shooting   45-88 (.511)       33-65 (.508)
3PT Shooting   20-40 (.500)       10-26 (.385)
Free Throws   16-20 (.800)       21-28 (.750)
Rebounds   19-46       7-28
Assists   25       15
Steals   11       2
Blocks   3       1
Turnovers   8       16
ESPN.com

While USA clearly played better offense than Argentina, it seems that defense played an equally big role because Argentina's offense wasn't all that bad with above .500 shooting and a free-throw advantage.  However US not only had almost a 2-1 advantage on assists (i.e, spreading the floor) but clearly picked up the defense with 11-2 steals, 3-1 blocks, and having pushed 16 turnovers and only committed 8 themselves.  It looks like defense is becoming the name of the game in the post-2010s era..


Morgan could either try to avoid the collision by leaping over the goalie or she could have crashed into her. She chose to leap over; she did not choose to knee the goalie's head. That contact was accidental and caused Morgan injury (ever heard of the dead leg syndrome?).

On reviewing the replays I agree with you, it does seem that she did try to avoid the collision, and that the follow through swing of her knees was just the forward motion and therefore unavoidable.  It is just a drag to see such a hard hit, legal, accidental, or otherwise Sad

stay blessed,
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I haven't seen any of the games. From what I hear, it sounds like they've yet to really put much into defense and are relying on sheer offensive domination.

True or False.

From what little I saw of the Argentina game, true, but the offense is so amazing it doesn't seem to matter.
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« Reply #127 on: August 06, 2012, 09:15:41 PM »

Are we keeping count of medals won by Orthodox Christians?  The Armenians just got two, a silver for wrestling and a bronze for women's weightlifting.  The woman who got the bronze is named Hripsime, the name of the saint in my avatar.  We have a whole thread on her in the OO section.

Go, Hripsime!

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The Ukrainians have a total of 9 medals so far.

Gold in women's fencing and rowing.  Bronze in track, fencing, gymnastics, and shooting.





















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I haven't seen any of the games. From what I hear, it sounds like they've yet to really put much into defense and are relying on sheer offensive domination.

True or False.

Assuming you are referring to women's soccer, I have only seen blogs and highlights myself. However, the defense has not really been tested until today when Canada's Sinclair made absolutely beautiful goals against Solo and crew. I hope they learned one or two things from today's scare and will play accordingly against Japan on Thursday. OTH, when you have three of the best forwards in the world, why not lean forward?

BTW, I think that the referees could do much better. Today, they bent over backwards not to give a second yellow card to Canada's second most effective player, Tancredi, and to make up for that deficiency they gave two questionable calls in a row against Canada. Ridiculous.
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Rebounds   19-46       7-28

Steals   11       2
Blocks   3       1
Turnovers   8       16
ESPN.com



I haven't seen any of the games. From what I hear, it sounds like they've yet to really put much into defense and are relying on sheer offensive domination.

True or False.

It has been mostly offense, and there have been moments where the defense has faltered a bit, but from what I've been seeing at the stat lines its seems about 40-60 defense. True, the offense has been amazing, but there has been some good defense too..

Again, 11 to 2 steals advantage by USA and forcing 16 turnovers, thats not exactly shoddy defense there Wink

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« Reply #130 on: August 06, 2012, 10:12:08 PM »

Are we keeping count of medals won by Orthodox Christians?  The Armenians just got two, a silver for wrestling and a bronze for women's weightlifting.  The woman who got the bronze is named Hripsime, the name of the saint in my avatar.  We have a whole thread on her in the OO section.

Go, Hripsime!

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The Ukrainians have a total of 9 medals so far.

Gold in women's fencing and rowing.  Bronze in track, fencing, gymnastics, and shooting.















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I haven't seen any of the games. From what I hear, it sounds like they've yet to really put much into defense and are relying on sheer offensive domination.

True or False.

Assuming you are referring to women's soccer, I have only seen blogs and highlights myself. However, the defense has not really been tested until today when Canada's Sinclair made absolutely beautiful goals against Solo and crew. I hope they learned one or two things from today's scare and will play accordingly against Japan on Thursday. OTH, when you have three of the best forwards in the world, why not lean forward?

BTW, I think that the referees could do much better. Today, they bent over backwards not to give a second yellow card to Canada's second most effective player, Tancredi, and to make up for that deficiency they gave two questionable calls in a row against Canada. Ridiculous.
Here's what jumped out at me about today's epic USA-vs.-Canada women's soccer match: 5 of the 7 goals scored by both teams were scored by alumni of the University of Portland (OR): Canada's Christine Sinclair with the hat trick and Team USA's Megan Rapinoe with two goals of her own.
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Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!


I haven't seen any of the games. From what I hear, it sounds like they've yet to really put much into defense and are relying on sheer offensive domination.

True or False.

Assuming you are referring to women's soccer, I have only seen blogs and highlights myself. However, the defense has not really been tested until today when Canada's Sinclair made absolutely beautiful goals against Solo and crew. I hope they learned one or two things from today's scare and will play accordingly against Japan on Thursday. OTH, when you have three of the best forwards in the world, why not lean forward?

BTW, I think that the referees could do much better. Today, they bent over backwards not to give a second yellow card to Canada's second most effective player, Tancredi, and to make up for that deficiency they gave two questionable calls in a row against Canada. Ridiculous.
Here's what jumped out at me about today's epic USA-vs.-Canada women's soccer match: 5 of the 7 goals scored by both teams were scored by alumni of the University of Portland (OR): Canada's Christine Sinclair with the hat-trick and Team USA's Megan Rapinoe with two goals of her own.

Great beer that town. I can never understand why nobody there likes the rain, it is so beautiful and so the norm. I mean, hey, it gets pretty hot in Thousand Oaks, but realistically most people there don't say they hate the sun, however, I rarely meet folks in Portland who agree with me about liking the rain.  In fact, they think I'm weird because whenever I'm there I like to hang outside in the rain in the early mornings or late night. 

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« Reply #133 on: August 07, 2012, 01:42:46 AM »

Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!


I haven't seen any of the games. From what I hear, it sounds like they've yet to really put much into defense and are relying on sheer offensive domination.

True or False.

Assuming you are referring to women's soccer, I have only seen blogs and highlights myself. However, the defense has not really been tested until today when Canada's Sinclair made absolutely beautiful goals against Solo and crew. I hope they learned one or two things from today's scare and will play accordingly against Japan on Thursday. OTH, when you have three of the best forwards in the world, why not lean forward?

BTW, I think that the referees could do much better. Today, they bent over backwards not to give a second yellow card to Canada's second most effective player, Tancredi, and to make up for that deficiency they gave two questionable calls in a row against Canada. Ridiculous.
Here's what jumped out at me about today's epic USA-vs.-Canada women's soccer match: 5 of the 7 goals scored by both teams were scored by alumni of the University of Portland (OR): Canada's Christine Sinclair with the hat-trick and Team USA's Megan Rapinoe with two goals of her own.

Great beer that town.
Yup, the beer's pretty good here. Grin

I can never understand why nobody there likes the rain, it is so beautiful and so the norm. I mean, hey, it gets pretty hot in Thousand Oaks, but realistically most people there don't say they hate the sun, however, I rarely meet folks in Portland who agree with me about liking the rain.
I don't like the rain here, but neither do I hate it. I just tolerate it. The last few days, though, have been quite hot by our standards. We have here maybe five 100-degree days per year, and one of them was this last Saturday.

In fact, they think I'm weird because whenever I'm there I like to hang outside in the rain in the early mornings or late night.
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« Reply #134 on: August 07, 2012, 01:55:41 AM »

Inspirational words from Ethiopia's legendary distance runner, Haile GebreSelassie:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/9421779/London-2012-Olympics-Games-allow-people-to-dream-of-a-better-life-says-Haile-Gebrselassie.html



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