I thought someone was going to prove the instant life begins. I am interested in seeing the empirical, irrefutable evidence.When I looked at the title of this thread, I thought that the discussion was going to be as to whether or not it is possible to create life in a test tube. In other words, for a scientist to take some non-living substances and to mix them up in such a way that you now have something living, even though it may be something extremely elementary. But people here seem to want to talk about other questions such as whether or not a plant has a soul. On such a philosophical question, it is possible to argue in either direction because the definition of soul has not been clarified. And suppose you did clarify the question as to whether or not a plant has a soul, or whether or not a fish has a soul, I don't see how this would answer the question as to the origin of life, unless you are claiming that all life depends on God implanting a soul in the object. But would this apply to viruses also?
As I stated, no one has provided an answer, which is no surprise. People do a fabulous job of attacking others and calling names, but when provided an opportunity to prove their ideas are accurate, failure is always the result. Nothing more than personal conjecture. What his thread reveals is a normal and predictable tactic. Alter the focus of the discussion ever so slightly and then babble about something not related. One person talks about plants, unrelated, while another talks about fetal survival rates in a laboratory and controlled environment, also unrelated. This is the very reason I dislike having these discussions. They begin by telling people how they lack intelligence and end without providing any substance to back up their original claims, which coincidentally is exactly what they demand from others. It reminds me of a movie which receives all kinds of hype, but when you leave the theater your are thinking, "That's it?". In addition, abiogenesis has been proven false several times. No one can ever breath life from nothing on their own.