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« on: July 10, 2012, 12:28:26 PM »

I love watching this stuff! It's like crack! I don't battle myself, though.

So sound off! Favorite tiers, movesets, battlers?

I enjoy NU, especially pyrotoz' battles. He's awesome. Check out this really close match he had with flamedawg6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cGKDz0z9Dk

But, my favorite battler would definitely have to be fiercebirdofflame no matter what tier he plays, though. He is, to put things simply, a beautiful man. Definitely needs more subs! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFB_YNF4Ogc&feature=plcp It's too bad he doesn't upload more often...
 
In terms of the metagame, I'm pretty excited about Technician Breloom. I've never seen Bullet Seed look so good! Imposter Ditto and Reiyujiu/Therian Kamis are all pretty beast too.
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« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2012, 12:55:18 PM »

You worry me.
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« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2012, 01:03:35 PM »

You worry me.
Good! Keeps things exciting  Grin
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« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2012, 01:11:34 PM »

The new move animations from Black and White 2 are also pretty exciting! I really like Volt Tackle, Overheat, and Frenzy Plant! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITII48PaxeE
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« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2012, 03:13:06 PM »

The only Pokémon games that I've played were games from the first two generations: Pokémon Red/Blue/Yellow, Pokémon Gold/Silver/Crystal, Pokémon Stadium, and Pokémon Stadium 2. But I don't follow the new Pokémon games.
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« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2012, 03:16:55 PM »

Some people do actually still record Red and Blue battles from time to time.

I do have some fond memories of Stadium!
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« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2012, 04:10:58 PM »

See, orthonorm, we Pokefans are not all neebish, pasty, maladjusted losers.:p http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBVccOMsT-k&feature=g-all-u

E-Lo is awesome (And yes, he has a girlfriend. She's cute, too).
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« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2012, 04:12:02 PM »

Wow, I can't believe Metang jumped from NU to UU so fast. Interesting.
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« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2012, 04:36:13 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2012, 04:42:48 PM »

lolz

There is actually a game called Pokemon Conquest that's an RTS that mixes Pokemon battles and the history of the Japanese Wars of Unification. I wish someone would do that with Medieval Europe.

They already have Pokemon in reference to the Three Musketeers. It would be cool if there was a full scale adaptation of the novel.

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« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2012, 04:44:02 PM »

Keldeo, the blue one, is possibly also a Brony shout-out which is just icing on the cake Cheesy
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« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2012, 04:46:06 PM »

Keldeo, the blue one, is possibly also a Brony shout-out which is just icing on the cake Cheesy

I've seen girls cut themselves in quieter pleas for help.
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« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2012, 04:49:23 PM »

I've just finished FireRed and I'm in the 2/3 of Gold.
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« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2012, 04:49:52 PM »

Keldeo, the blue one, is possibly also a Brony shout-out which is just icing on the cake Cheesy

I've seen girls cut themselves in quieter pleas for help.
You're just jealous because Gary Oak got more badges than you.  Tongue
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« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2012, 04:52:44 PM »

I've just finished FireRed and I'm in the 2/3 of Gold.
Cool. What teams are you using?

In SoulSilver, I've got Meganium, Quagsire, Ampharos, Magcargo, Xatu, and Tauros.

I'm kind of stuck at the Elite Four, though. My team is underleveled, so I'd have to spend quite some time level grinding, plus they don't have very good natures, unfortunately. I really like Magcargo, concept wise, but I think it was a mistake trying to go through the game with one. I also didn't realize Shell Smash did not exist till Gen 5  Embarrassed
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« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2012, 04:55:09 PM »

On the Musketeers topic. I might be persuaded to write that up as a fan fic, even though it's likely been done before but I've just never seen it, heh. It really deserves to be a comic though, and I can't draw nothin lol...

I also have a faint idea of the Pokemon version of Ceasar's conquests.
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You worry me.

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« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2012, 05:03:28 PM »

I've seen some cute girls who're into Pokemon actually. Mootypwns, for example.

I wish I knew if I lived near any of them...
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« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2012, 05:12:00 PM »

What teams are you using?

Gold: Thyplosion, Espeon, Lapras, Sandslash, Heracross and Ampharos
FireRed: Charizard, Rhydon, Primape, Raichu, Gyarados and Exeggutor

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I'm kind of stuck at the Elite Four, though. My team is underleveled, so I'd have to spend quite some time level grinding, plus they don't have very good natures, unfortunately.

In Gold I've once enterred Indigo Plateau with a team on 35th
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« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2012, 05:15:00 PM »

Nice. What's the moveset on that Rhydon?

Man, I remember fishing for Magikarp in Vermillion City in Red Version back in the day and then struggling to evolve it. Good memories...

My hat's off to you on the underleveled run, too!
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« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2012, 05:18:10 PM »

Nice. What's the moveset on that Rhydon?

Rock Slide, Earthquake, Megahorn and Double-Edge.
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« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2012, 05:22:30 PM »

Cool. Rock Head?
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« Reply #22 on: July 10, 2012, 05:23:13 PM »

Yeap.
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« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2012, 05:24:12 PM »

Adamant?
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« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2012, 06:20:34 PM »

I don't care about natures.
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« Reply #25 on: July 10, 2012, 06:22:04 PM »

Yeah, it probably doesn't matter much for in game stuff.

Competitive matches can be won or lost based on a couple of stat points, so that's where it really counts.
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« Reply #26 on: July 11, 2012, 01:12:56 PM »

Here's ZellMurasame vs. TheDeadlyBroduo with a unique Kadabra set that didn't see much play unfortunately as well as a reminder of just why Eviolite Regenerator Tangela is the king of NU. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQR2EgM6HJw

If anyone needs explanation on what these terms I'm throwing around mean, feel free to ask. I love talking about Pokemon!

Here's another of my favorite battlers, iamthetie, using his 4th-Gen Back to the Future themed team from a while ago. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nTG1-iBFKM

Also, I'm pretty stoked for the upcoming distribution of Genesect and what it will do to the metagame!
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« Reply #27 on: July 11, 2012, 01:17:16 PM »

orthonorm, you might enjoy Pokemon. If one so chooses, there's actually a lot of math involved in calculating damage and such.  Wink

It's a bit like baseball.
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« Reply #28 on: July 11, 2012, 02:47:04 PM »

It's a bit like baseball.
Definitely not how to get Orthonorm or I excited.
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« Reply #29 on: July 11, 2012, 02:59:57 PM »

I know. I was just going for the sabermetrics comparison.
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« Reply #30 on: July 11, 2012, 07:40:54 PM »

Here's ZellMurasame vs. TheDeadlyBroduo with a unique Kadabra set that didn't see much play unfortunately as well as a reminder of just why Eviolite Regenerator Tangela is the king of NU. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQR2EgM6HJw

If anyone needs explanation on what these terms I'm throwing around mean, feel free to ask. I love talking about Pokemon!

Here's another of my favorite battlers, iamthetie, using his 4th-Gen Back to the Future themed team from a while ago. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nTG1-iBFKM

Also, I'm pretty stoked for the upcoming distribution of Genesect and what it will do to the metagame!

Sadly, I understood all of that, haha.
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« Reply #31 on: July 11, 2012, 07:45:26 PM »

The entire first paragraph of the quoted post makes my eyes hurt.
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« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2012, 08:26:40 PM »

Here's ZellMurasame vs. TheDeadlyBroduo with a unique Kadabra set that didn't see much play unfortunately as well as a reminder of just why Eviolite Regenerator Tangela is the king of NU. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQR2EgM6HJw

If anyone needs explanation on what these terms I'm throwing around mean, feel free to ask. I love talking about Pokemon!

Here's another of my favorite battlers, iamthetie, using his 4th-Gen Back to the Future themed team from a while ago. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nTG1-iBFKM

Also, I'm pretty stoked for the upcoming distribution of Genesect and what it will do to the metagame!

Sadly, I understood all of that, haha.
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« Reply #33 on: July 11, 2012, 08:27:58 PM »

The entire first paragraph of the quoted post makes my eyes hurt.
I'm sorry.
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« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2012, 08:32:33 PM »

I choose Baramos!

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« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2012, 08:41:50 PM »

I mean this in all seriousness: Between this and the "bronies" thing, can someone explain to me when being a hip, cool guy or whatever you'd call it became all about liking things that 5-8 year olds like, despite being an adult man in your 20s (later? earlier?)? I absolutely don't get it. I don't even get it enough to judge it. It's just incomprehensible.
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« Reply #36 on: July 11, 2012, 08:44:11 PM »

I mean this in all seriousness: Between this and the "bronies" thing, can someone explain to me when being a hip, cool guy or whatever you'd call it became all about liking things that 5-8 year olds like, despite being an adult man in your 20s (later? earlier?)? I absolutely don't get it. I don't even get it enough to judge it. It's just incomprehensible.

Of course. Smiley
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« Reply #37 on: July 11, 2012, 08:46:52 PM »

Go on...
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« Reply #38 on: July 11, 2012, 08:55:28 PM »

I meant of course it's incomprehensible, ha, but fwiw...  I've never played this game (Pokemon), and don't get the Bronies thing either. However, I think I understand the spirit of it. This is just something these guys/girls enjoy, and they won't have someone else dictate to them how old they have to be to enjoy it. I mean, who gets to decide that playing with a horse shoe or lifting heavy objects over and over qualify as "adult" activities, while other things don't? I feel the this way, anyway--if I enjoy something, I don't care whether it is considered a non-adult thing by some people. For several years in my 20s I played with Lego, for example. I really didn't care that it was marketed and made for kids. And I stopped not because I felt ashamed or like it was immature, but simply because I didn't enjoy it (well, that, and I can't afford it, but even if I could I still didn't enjoy it anymore).  Anyway, that's my line of thinking on it...
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« Reply #39 on: July 11, 2012, 09:05:45 PM »

I thought a Pokey Mon was a Jamaican proctologist.  Tongue Wink
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« Reply #40 on: July 11, 2012, 09:08:17 PM »

I mean this in all seriousness: Between this and the "bronies" thing, can someone explain to me when being a hip, cool guy or whatever you'd call it became all about liking things that 5-8 year olds like, despite being an adult man in your 20s (later? earlier?)? I absolutely don't get it. I don't even get it enough to judge it. It's just incomprehensible.
I dunno. Bronyism started in 2010 as a 4Chan thing. They've always had a weird fascination with cute/girly things (some of them like them ironically, some seriously). I'm not sure how it spread to non-Anons though (I'm not an Anon, btw). I wouldn't call competitive Pokemon battling "hip," though. It's kind of still in the subculture stages (began around 2004, when new features of the third generation games made it possible to pump up your Pokemon as far as they were made to go).

Friendship is Magic likely would not have taken off like this if it wasn't for several forerunners which paved the way for twentysomethings being into cartoons. Powerpuff Girls, which started as something of an ironic parody for adults called Whoopass is one of the most important. The combination of Craig McCraken's (Lauren Faust, who was head writer and show runner for the first season of Friendship is Magic is McCracken's wife and writing partner) dry humor and sense of comic book-style spectacle made for a show with wide multi-generational appeal despite being about cute little girls. McCraken's other success, Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends along with the similarly themed Spongebob were hits with the older set for similar reasons. One could also go back further to Animaniacs, Pinky and the Brain, and even Looney Tunes being as popular with kids as with their parents.

I suppose one could make the argument as well that it's a symptom of kids moving back in their folks after college and generally being in a sort of post-adolescence, but I'm not a psychologist or anything.

Me personally (I'm 26) though, I try not to follow trends. I'm just a lover of animation and of all things Nintendo.
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« Reply #41 on: July 11, 2012, 09:09:48 PM »

I choose Baramos!


Surprisingly, I've never played a Dragon Quest game. I need to rectify that someday. Also, Baramos looks like Piano from Dragonball. I wonder if that was intentional on Toriyama's part.
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« Reply #42 on: July 11, 2012, 09:10:46 PM »

I thought a Pokey Mon was a Jamaican proctologist.  Tongue Wink
I think that one caused a couple of polyps, actually.  laugh
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« Reply #43 on: July 11, 2012, 09:14:33 PM »

I meant of course it's incomprehensible, ha, but fwiw...  I've never played this game (Pokemon), and don't get the Bronies thing either. However, I think I understand the spirit of it. This is just something these guys/girls enjoy, and they won't have someone else dictate to them how old they have to be to enjoy it. I mean, who gets to decide that playing with a horse shoe or lifting heavy objects over and over qualify as "adult" activities, while other things don't? I feel the this way, anyway--if I enjoy something, I don't care whether it is considered a non-adult thing by some people. For several years in my 20s I played with Lego, for example. I really didn't care that it was marketed and made for kids. And I stopped not because I felt ashamed or like it was immature, but simply because I didn't enjoy it (well, that, and I can't afford it, but even if I could I still didn't enjoy it anymore).  Anyway, that's my line of thinking on it...
Yeah, that's pretty much the way I feel. Model trains, fishing, sports, karaoke, one could point to all kinds of equivalents that someone in another time and place might find childish. I'm reminded of Tacitus' rant against the men of Rome's love for chariot races.
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« Reply #44 on: July 11, 2012, 09:37:59 PM »

Oh, and on the topic of Bronys, since the toy line's introduction in the 80s there has been a subset of adult women who have collected the toys and customized them (sometimes quite expensively).
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« Reply #45 on: July 11, 2012, 10:00:55 PM »

I mean this in all seriousness: Between this and the "bronies" thing, can someone explain to me when being a hip, cool guy or whatever you'd call it became all about liking things that 5-8 year olds like, despite being an adult man in your 20s (later? earlier?)? I absolutely don't get it. I don't even get it enough to judge it. It's just incomprehensible.

Jeremy, do you have a sensible hair-cut?

This world is too grey. I am surprised anyone prefers reading about the rise and fall of stocks to pitting Squirtle against Charmander, frankly. That is the real mystery.
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« Reply #46 on: July 11, 2012, 10:05:52 PM »

E-Lo vs. Txrlegend http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4rHWTz__uw

Another awesomely close battle. Chandelure is a force of nature...
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« Reply #47 on: July 11, 2012, 10:14:18 PM »

Jeremy, do you have a sensible hair-cut?

Yes. It's hot where I live, so long hair is like wearing a feverish cat on your head at all times.
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« Reply #48 on: July 11, 2012, 10:15:29 PM »

Jeremy, do you have a sensible hair-cut?

Yes. It's hot where I live, so long hair is like wearing a feverish cat on your head at all times.

Another reason I detest my ancient enemy: the sun.

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« Reply #49 on: July 11, 2012, 10:19:30 PM »

Kristen Stewart is looking for you.
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« Reply #50 on: July 11, 2012, 10:48:59 PM »

Kristen Stewart is looking for you.

I think she's a bit alright, personally.
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« Reply #51 on: July 12, 2012, 10:06:21 AM »

Kristen Stewart is looking for you.

I think she's a bit alright, personally.
I don't think we can be friends anymore. jk. :p
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« Reply #52 on: July 12, 2012, 10:07:18 AM »

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« Reply #53 on: July 12, 2012, 01:07:35 PM »

I mean this in all seriousness: Between this and the "bronies" thing, can someone explain to me when being a hip, cool guy or whatever you'd call it became all about liking things that 5-8 year olds like, despite being an adult man in your 20s (later? earlier?)? I absolutely don't get it. I don't even get it enough to judge it. It's just incomprehensible.

Dzheremi,

Being interested in childish things has always been the honest purview of the nerd, the accidental oddball, and the geek.

However, with the advent of "Indie" crowds, it became cool to awkwardly dredge up even the most childish nostalgia in the name of "spontaneity" or romance; perhaps in an attempt to re-create some of the emotional pleasures of childhood to compensate for the drifting malaise of their adult lives (or just to impress chicks who feed off of that stuff).

When the latest wave of 21st century hipsterdom emerged, it swallowed up the Indie crowd and with it, the awkward dredging was assimilated.
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« Reply #54 on: July 12, 2012, 01:14:24 PM »

Hmm. Alright. Just curious. It would appear I'm not too much older than some of you (I'll be 30 in ~2 months), but I must've missed this development. But I also don't like/know indie music, so if it's something that happened specifically to those people then I guess it makes sense I don't get it. Have fun attracting self-consciously 'quirky' girls, I guess. Cheesy
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« Reply #55 on: July 12, 2012, 01:17:26 PM »

I mean this in all seriousness: Between this and the "bronies" thing, can someone explain to me when being a hip, cool guy or whatever you'd call it became all about liking things that 5-8 year olds like, despite being an adult man in your 20s (later? earlier?)? I absolutely don't get it. I don't even get it enough to judge it. It's just incomprehensible.

Dzheremi,

Being interested in childish things has always been the honest purview of the nerd, the accidental oddball, and the geek.

However, with the advent of "Indie" crowds, it became cool to awkwardly dredge up even the most childish nostalgia in the name of "spontaneity" or romance; perhaps in an attempt to re-create some of the emotional pleasures of childhood to compensate for the drifting malaise of their adult lives (or just to impress chicks who feed off of that stuff).

When the latest wave of 21st century hipsterdom emerged, it swallowed up the Indie crowd and with it, the awkward dredging was assimilated.
That's probably the best explanation, yep.
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« Reply #56 on: July 12, 2012, 01:19:20 PM »

Hmm. Alright. Just curious. It would appear I'm not too much older than some of you (I'll be 30 in ~2 months), but I must've missed this development. But I also don't like/know indie music, so if it's something that happened specifically to those people then I guess it makes sense I don't get it. Have fun attracting self-consciously 'quirky' girls, I guess. Cheesy
Thanks! Hopefully not too self-conscious (unless she's Zoey Deschanel), but I'm workin on it!
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« Reply #57 on: July 12, 2012, 01:29:21 PM »



Oh I love this.
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« Reply #58 on: July 12, 2012, 01:33:58 PM »

I mean this in all seriousness: Between this and the "bronies" thing, can someone explain to me when being a hip, cool guy or whatever you'd call it became all about liking things that 5-8 year olds like, despite being an adult man in your 20s (later? earlier?)? I absolutely don't get it. I don't even get it enough to judge it. It's just incomprehensible.

Dzheremi,

Being interested in childish things has always been the honest purview of the nerd, the accidental oddball, and the geek.

However, with the advent of "Indie" crowds, it became cool to awkwardly dredge up even the most childish nostalgia in the name of "spontaneity" or romance; perhaps in an attempt to re-create some of the emotional pleasures of childhood to compensate for the drifting malaise of their adult lives (or just to impress chicks who feed off of that stuff).

When the latest wave of 21st century hipsterdom emerged, it swallowed up the Indie crowd and with it, the awkward dredging was assimilated.
That's probably the best explanation, yep.

That I fear is a somewhat accurate however benign analysis. The more precise critique is more terrible.

I would suggest Wes Anderson's horrifying film Moonrise Kingdom as the distillation par excellence of the move toward "sincerity" as the critical text of this cultural tendency, which is not just limited to hipsterism and its bastard offspring like bronies.

Jeremy, in short, you should fear Starlight Sparkle more than any Islamist.
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« Reply #59 on: July 12, 2012, 01:55:47 PM »

I mean this in all seriousness: Between this and the "bronies" thing, can someone explain to me when being a hip, cool guy or whatever you'd call it became all about liking things that 5-8 year olds like, despite being an adult man in your 20s (later? earlier?)? I absolutely don't get it. I don't even get it enough to judge it. It's just incomprehensible.

Dzheremi,

Being interested in childish things has always been the honest purview of the nerd, the accidental oddball, and the geek.

However, with the advent of "Indie" crowds, it became cool to awkwardly dredge up even the most childish nostalgia in the name of "spontaneity" or romance; perhaps in an attempt to re-create some of the emotional pleasures of childhood to compensate for the drifting malaise of their adult lives (or just to impress chicks who feed off of that stuff).

When the latest wave of 21st century hipsterdom emerged, it swallowed up the Indie crowd and with it, the awkward dredging was assimilated.
That's probably the best explanation, yep.

That I fear is a somewhat accurate however benign analysis. The more precise critique is more terrible.

I would suggest Wes Anderson's horrifying film Moonrise Kingdom as the distillation par excellence of the move toward "sincerity" as the critical text of this cultural tendency, which is not just limited to hipsterism and its bastard offspring like bronies.

Jeremy, in short, you should fear Starlight Sparkle more than any Islamist.
Oh, so only the self-conciously quirky hipster fair that you like is ok. Got it. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #60 on: July 12, 2012, 01:57:31 PM »

I mean this in all seriousness: Between this and the "bronies" thing, can someone explain to me when being a hip, cool guy or whatever you'd call it became all about liking things that 5-8 year olds like, despite being an adult man in your 20s (later? earlier?)? I absolutely don't get it. I don't even get it enough to judge it. It's just incomprehensible.

Dzheremi,

Being interested in childish things has always been the honest purview of the nerd, the accidental oddball, and the geek.

However, with the advent of "Indie" crowds, it became cool to awkwardly dredge up even the most childish nostalgia in the name of "spontaneity" or romance; perhaps in an attempt to re-create some of the emotional pleasures of childhood to compensate for the drifting malaise of their adult lives (or just to impress chicks who feed off of that stuff).

When the latest wave of 21st century hipsterdom emerged, it swallowed up the Indie crowd and with it, the awkward dredging was assimilated.
That's probably the best explanation, yep.

That I fear is a somewhat accurate however benign analysis. The more precise critique is more terrible.

I would suggest Wes Anderson's horrifying film Moonrise Kingdom as the distillation par excellence of the move toward "sincerity" as the critical text of this cultural tendency, which is not just limited to hipsterism and its bastard offspring like bronies.

Jeremy, in short, you should fear Starlight Sparkle more than any Islamist.
Oh, so only the self-conciously quirky hipster fair that you like is ok. Got it. Roll Eyes

Actually you don't.
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« Reply #61 on: July 12, 2012, 08:53:46 PM »

I thought a Pokey Mon was a Jamaican proctologist.  Tongue Wink

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