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Re: Orthodox Parish allowing Altar Girls?
« Reply #360 on: November 30, 2016, 09:31:57 AM »
Thanks.
Also I have noticed the former web site for the ordination of a deaconess is not longer functioning.
However, you can still access it here:

https://web.archive.org/web/20160401074652/http://www.anastasis.org.uk/woman_deacon.htm
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Re: Orthodox Parish allowing Altar Girls?
« Reply #361 on: November 30, 2016, 10:09:25 AM »
Thanks.
Also I have noticed the former web site for the ordination of a deaconess is not longer functioning.

I'm guessing that's because Fr. Ephrem reposed (last year I think?). It would be unfortunate if no one could step in to maintain the site, as it's got tons of great material.
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Re: Orthodox Parish allowing Altar Girls?
« Reply #362 on: November 30, 2016, 03:09:38 PM »


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AFAIK, those are not "altar girls", unless "altar girl" means "girl who carries candles in the nave once in a while while wearing a funny poncho and giving more conservative people heart palpitations". 
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Re: Orthodox Parish allowing Altar Girls?
« Reply #363 on: November 30, 2016, 03:13:12 PM »


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AFAIK, those are not "altar girls", unless "altar girl" means "girl who carries candles in the nave once in a while while wearing a funny poncho and giving more conservative people heart palpitations".

There does, however, seem to be some discontent with the status quo over there.
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Re: Orthodox Parish allowing Altar Girls?
« Reply #364 on: November 30, 2016, 03:25:41 PM »


OCA Cathedral in NYC

AFAIK, those are not "altar girls", unless "altar girl" means "girl who carries candles in the nave once in a while while wearing a funny poncho and giving more conservative people heart palpitations".

Looks like a short phelonion used in the ordination of a reader.

There does, however, seem to be some discontent with the status quo over there.
from that essay:
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....as discussed for decades, allowing girls to be altar servers in our Churches sends a strong message that their service is valued.

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Re: Orthodox Parish allowing Altar Girls?
« Reply #365 on: November 30, 2016, 03:48:43 PM »
Thanks.
Also I have noticed the former web site for the ordination of a deaconess is not longer functioning.

I'm guessing that's because Fr. Ephrem reposed (last year I think?). It would be unfortunate if no one could step in to maintain the site, as it's got tons of great material.

Oh yes, that's a pity. I don't know any other website with so many Orthodox liturgical texts in English, moreover with some explanations.
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Re: Orthodox Parish allowing Altar Girls?
« Reply #366 on: December 01, 2016, 01:26:43 AM »


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AFAIK, those are not "altar girls", unless "altar girl" means "girl who carries candles in the nave once in a while while wearing a funny poncho and giving more conservative people heart palpitations".

I know.  They seem to be what Carl referenced in response #340.  I just thought it vaguely interesting that the jpg is labeled "acolytes". 

Ponchos. :laugh:
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Re: Orthodox Parish allowing Altar Girls?
« Reply #367 on: December 01, 2016, 11:56:50 AM »
Thanks.
Also I have noticed the former web site for the ordination of a deaconess is not longer functioning.

I'm guessing that's because Fr. Ephrem reposed (last year I think?). It would be unfortunate if no one could step in to maintain the site, as it's got tons of great material.

Oh yes, that's a pity. I don't know any other website with so many Orthodox liturgical texts in English, moreover with some explanations.

Well I just found this one this morning:
http://www.agesinitiatives.com/dcs/public/dcs/dcs.html
It is new to me & I am still exploring it.

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Re: Orthodox Parish allowing Altar Girls?
« Reply #368 on: December 01, 2016, 05:13:47 PM »
Thanks.
Also I have noticed the former web site for the ordination of a deaconess is not longer functioning.

I'm guessing that's because Fr. Ephrem reposed (last year I think?). It would be unfortunate if no one could step in to maintain the site, as it's got tons of great material.

Oh yes, that's a pity. I don't know any other website with so many Orthodox liturgical texts in English, moreover with some explanations.

Well I just found this one this morning:
http://www.agesinitiatives.com/dcs/public/dcs/dcs.html
It is new to me & I am still exploring it.

Oh, thank you, it looks good :)
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Re: Orthodox Parish allowing Altar Girls?
« Reply #369 on: December 17, 2016, 01:43:36 PM »
Mor Ephrem is a nice guy.  Just say sorry and it will all be ok. Say I had things that were inside troubling me but I didn't know how to express appropriately. I will not behave that way again but I am seeking help.

thank you so much Mor ephrem you are a hero!

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Re: Orthodox Parish allowing Altar Girls?
« Reply #370 on: December 17, 2016, 02:26:49 PM »
Thanks.
Also I have noticed the former web site for the ordination of a deaconess is not longer functioning.

I'm guessing that's because Fr. Ephrem reposed (last year I think?). It would be unfortunate if no one could step in to maintain the site, as it's got tons of great material.

Oh yes, that's a pity. I don't know any other website with so many Orthodox liturgical texts in English, moreover with some explanations.

Well I just found this one this morning:
http://www.agesinitiatives.com/dcs/public/dcs/dcs.html
It is new to me & I am still exploring it.

Oh, thank you, it looks good :)
That's what my home parish uses for Orthros, so it must be ;)
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Re: Orthodox Parish allowing Altar Girls?
« Reply #371 on: December 30, 2016, 05:29:08 PM »



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Re: Orthodox Parish allowing Altar Girls?
« Reply #372 on: December 30, 2016, 05:31:25 PM »
So that's the first picture I've seen of a monastic deaconess, and it's from a schismatic group. Was this reflective of a general practice in 1930's Greece or was it something specific to Matthewites?
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