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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #90 on: November 25, 2018, 02:02:55 AM »
Always felling that after I buy something for pleasure that I should've given the money to the Church.

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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #91 on: November 25, 2018, 10:07:07 AM »
Always felling that after I buy something for pleasure that I should've given the money to the Church.
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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #92 on: November 25, 2018, 03:17:54 PM »
The hardest part: eating large quantities of beans never ends well. But how else shall we consume adequate proteins during the fast?

That, and chastity, concentrating during prayer, and treating everyone with Christ-like love.
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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #93 on: November 25, 2018, 06:48:15 PM »
The hardest part: eating large quantities of beans never ends well.
Gotta discard that soaking water and cook at high temp! Beans aren't supposed to hurt.
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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #94 on: November 25, 2018, 07:10:36 PM »
The hardest part: eating large quantities of beans never ends well.
Gotta discard that soaking water and cook at high temp! Beans aren't supposed to hurt.
Thats right! Preparation is 9/10s of the battle.  Blanche the beans first. Discard the water than use fresh water and boil till tender..
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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #95 on: November 25, 2018, 07:11:18 PM »
Happy shall he be, that shall take and dash thy little ones against the rock. Alleluia.

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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #96 on: November 25, 2018, 09:31:50 PM »
The hardest part: eating large quantities of beans never ends well. But how else shall we consume adequate proteins during the fast?



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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #97 on: November 25, 2018, 09:41:21 PM »
Tofu.  Locusts, if you're biblical.
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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #98 on: November 25, 2018, 10:39:51 PM »
I think GOARCH is OK with arthropods (land or sea), mollusks, and bivalves. Strict jurisdictions like ROCOR may disagree though.
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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #99 on: November 25, 2018, 10:44:39 PM »
The soy-sauced sauteed crickets were too ascetic for the ROCOR parish in the local area.
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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #100 on: November 26, 2018, 11:40:32 AM »
The hardest part: eating large quantities of beans never ends well.
Gotta discard that soaking water and cook at high temp! Beans aren't supposed to hurt.

I always discard the soaking water, but I've never cooked them at a high temperature. I'll try that today. Thank you!
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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #101 on: November 26, 2018, 01:14:54 PM »
The hardest part: eating large quantities of beans never ends well.
Beans are staple food here, most people eat them twice a day, we're fine so it really won't do any harm if you cook them well. Unfortunately I suck at doing them, but you may listen to Nicholas.  :P
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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #102 on: November 26, 2018, 01:25:18 PM »
I think GOARCH is OK with arthropods (land or sea), mollusks, and bivalves. Strict jurisdictions like ROCOR may disagree though.

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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #103 on: November 26, 2018, 02:12:02 PM »
I think GOARCH is OK with arthropods (land or sea), mollusks, and bivalves. Strict jurisdictions like ROCOR may disagree though.

I don't think that's a matter of laxness versus strictness... that's just the ancient fasting categorization. Lobsters and shrimp are considered relatively luxurious now but it was not always so.
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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #104 on: November 26, 2018, 02:43:12 PM »
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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #105 on: November 26, 2018, 02:56:54 PM »
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Yes, Lent can be difficult.
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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #106 on: November 26, 2018, 03:17:33 PM »
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Yes, Lent can be difficult.

It is best to do prostrations before going anywhere.
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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #107 on: November 26, 2018, 03:27:22 PM »
Yes, Great Lent is 40 days.

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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #108 on: November 26, 2018, 03:34:53 PM »
I think GOARCH is OK with arthropods (land or sea), mollusks, and bivalves. Strict jurisdictions like ROCOR may disagree though.

I don't think that's a matter of laxness versus strictness... that's just the ancient fasting categorization. Lobsters and shrimp are considered relatively luxurious now but it was not always so.
Probably saw someone ranting somewhere and figured ROCOR was to blame. Actually I don't know their rules.

I am aware of the change in seafood's perception though. We should all complain how expensive our prison food has gotten  ;)
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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #109 on: November 26, 2018, 05:44:37 PM »
For me the hardest part is how culturally foreign it is and how numerically small Orthodoxy is in America. That makes me all the more aware of how statistically probable it is that my children will not hold to the religion as adults. It's difficult and irrelevant, with no general cultural backing like you would get in the Orthodox countries. All in all, with a 45 minute commute to the church and almost total lack of the religion in my region of the country, it feels very lonely.

But it is true, and it is beautiful. Those things keep me coming back every week and keeping faith. It's very unlikely I would have been able to sustain faith as an Evangelical Protestant as an adult.

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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #110 on: November 26, 2018, 05:55:35 PM »
For me it has been zealousness. As a convert who finally found the true Faith and the true Church, I have struggled to simply live a consistent spiritual life. I was warned about "convertitis," and I certainly fell prey to that. I am an all or nothing person, and I've struggled to just live out the Faith one day at a time. So for me, the hardest thing has been learning to make it to Liturgy consistently, to go to Confession (which I don't do enough), and to fast even if I don't keep the fasts as strictly as I should. As the old adage goes: "The race belongs not to the swift, but to those who endure." So if you enter into Orthodoxy, be prepared to struggle; but when you fall just keep getting back up and keep clinging to the Cross.

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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #111 on: November 26, 2018, 07:31:17 PM »
Hello when I attend an Orthodox Christian Church during my early days of wanting to convert I was told of any of the rules that would be required for me to follow. The priest took upon himself to make the choice not to tell me before converting me to the Orthodox Christian faith. I didn't find it out 9 or 10 years later,  I was so upset with him for giving the chance to make that choice for myself. I kind of blow my stack at him ,but in the end I forgave his kind pushing me into the Church. It is now 20 years ago that I converted to the faith, I still have issues with the fast but I'm trying my best I can to do what faith tells me to do. I'm not to good at living the fast but keep trying to do so... I will more then like struggle with the faith for a very long time...

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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #112 on: November 26, 2018, 07:34:44 PM »
I do believe in the faith that I have and won't leave the Church because of what happened so long ago. When I think of it where would I go , so I relented and except my faith in full..

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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #113 on: November 27, 2018, 12:26:43 PM »
Yes, Great Lent is 40 days.
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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #114 on: December 03, 2018, 12:59:02 AM »
Hello when I attend an Orthodox Christian Church during my early days of wanting to convert I was told of any of the rules that would be required for me to follow. The priest took upon himself to make the choice not to tell me before converting me to the Orthodox Christian faith. I didn't find it out 9 or 10 years later,  I was so upset with him for giving the chance to make that choice for myself. I kind of blow my stack at him ,but in the end I forgave his kind pushing me into the Church. It is now 20 years ago that I converted to the faith, I still have issues with the fast but I'm trying my best I can to do what faith tells me to do. I'm not to good at living the fast but keep trying to do so... I will more then like struggle with the faith for a very long time...

What rules?
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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #115 on: December 03, 2018, 02:14:28 AM »
Huuuummmh ~ never knew anything from outside of the Orthodox faith ~ I saw others and tried to understand what they believed ~ who they thought Christ was ~  when they would say things like : "Have you accepted Jesus Christ as your personal savior" as if Jesus was his first name an Christ was his family name ~ some times the way they spoke of the Lord ~ it was too familiar ~ rude or vulgar ~ know what I mean ```



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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #116 on: December 03, 2018, 08:35:10 PM »
On Wednesday and Friday no relationship with the wife and Saturday the night before Divine Liturgy that one and half the year we fast from meats and dairy plus a few other things....

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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #117 on: December 04, 2018, 03:05:01 AM »
On Wednesday and Friday no relationship with the wife and Saturday the night before Divine Liturgy that one and half the year we fast from meats and dairy plus a few other things....
And those are "the rules", huh?

Doesn't sound like your first priest kept anything from you. Sounds like a second or third priest put quite a yoke on you though.
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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #118 on: December 04, 2018, 07:35:32 PM »
There are no requirements under the pain of death should you not fast ~ keep yourself from sin ~ Love the Lord ~ Keep the commandments ~ being Orthodox is the easiest life on earth ~ Yes ~ we can put ashes in our hair and walk bare footed up the mountain and eat nothing but stale bread and water But all that not required ~  Yes ~ fasting the few hours before Communion ~ but ~ there are no ~ do this or that or God won't Love you or you can't sing the Sharagans if you've driven over the speed limit on the way to work on Friday ```

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Re: Hardest Parts of Being Orthodox?
« Reply #119 on: December 13, 2018, 04:19:41 PM »
Myself.
Is any of the above Orthodox?  I have no clue, so there's that.