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« on: November 16, 2004, 10:41:06 PM »

I am new to this message board, and I've read posts here and there.  Frankly, it bothers me to read posts from fellow Orthodox judging us Oriental Orthodox as "unorthodox" heretics.  As a Copt, and a reader-deacon, I was born and raised in my faith and was always taught that my church has always been orthodox.  It was not until I conducted my own research into history, especially on ecumenical councils, that I've truly appreciated what it means to belong to a church that has been virtually unchanged in its apostolic faith since the beginning.  Chalcedon was a spoof to me, frankly.  A big mess with envy-driven politics raging against our blessed Dioscoros whom they've exiled to Gangra.  What gave them (Byzantines) the right to place Proterius over our forefathers?  The Egyptian synod elected Abba Timothy, and that is how a see conducts its elections- by canonical tradition.  Is it not canonically incorrect, also, to have more than one bishop over a see?  Why is there then the "Greek Orthodox Patriarchate of Alexandria", which claims our Throne of St. Mark, and steals our Abba Shenouti's proper title of Pope and Patriarch?  Foul play!  Let the minutes of the councils be examined, and let the truth be told.  It is people like Linus (yes, I dare mention names) that truly get on my nerves.  Brother Farrington knows what he's talking about, and what I'm talking about.  Bah, well, I wish everyone a good night, I'm tired.

Kristos Aftonf!
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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2004, 12:18:54 AM »

Dear "Saint Shenouti"

So you have registered for the forum only to complain about things from several months ago? Our moderator Antonious Nikolaos was appointed specifically to help assuase Coptic feelings on the board.

This subforum called "Oriental Orthodox Discussion" exists for the purpose of talking about your Church.  However, if you read the rules, discussions about Chalcedon belong in the faith section, not in this folder, which is partly due to our not wanting there to be fights every time a Non Chalcedonian posts something.  Since we enforce this rule, I'll have to ask you to post your questions in the faith folder.

Also, why don't you tell us what sources you have been reading? It's hard to see where you are coming from without some material that we can compare.

Thank you and God bless!

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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2004, 10:14:18 AM »

I am new to this message board, and I've read posts here and there.  Frankly, it bothers me to read posts from fellow Orthodox judging us Oriental Orthodox as "unorthodox" heretics.  As a Copt, and a reader-deacon, I was born and raised in my faith and was always taught that my church has always been orthodox.  It was not until I conducted my own research into history, especially on ecumenical councils, that I've truly appreciated what it means to belong to a church that has been virtually unchanged in its apostolic faith since the beginning.  Chalcedon was a spoof to me, frankly.  A big mess with envy-driven politics raging against our blessed Dioscoros whom they've exiled to Gangra.  What gave them (Byzantines) the right to place Proterius over our forefathers?  The Egyptian synod elected Abba Timothy, and that is how a see conducts its elections- by canonical tradition.  Is it not canonically incorrect, also, to have more than one bishop over a see?  Why is there then the "Greek Orthodox Patriarchate of Alexandria", which claims our Throne of St. Mark, and steals our Abba Shenouti's proper title of Pope and Patriarch?  Foul play!  Let the minutes of the councils be examined, and let the truth be told.  It is people like Linus (yes, I dare mention names) that truly get on my nerves.  Brother Farrington knows what he's talking about, and what I'm talking about.  Bah, well, I wish everyone a good night, I'm tired.

Kristos Aftonf!        

Hello Shenouti - As a person who loves St. Dioscoros and our Coptic Orthodox Church, I agree with your assessment of the historical events surrounding Chalcedon.  However, I must agree with Anastasios that the posts you are referring to are many months old.  I can assure you that that nothing like that will go down on my watch!  Wink

Until they take my nightstick away.....A.N.
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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2004, 06:17:00 PM »

My apologies, I didn't realize the extent of the message board.
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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2004, 11:03:11 AM »

No problem!
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