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Katie Holmes filed for divorce primarily over Tom Cruise's fierce ties to Scientology, fearing that Tom would drag Suri deep into the church ... sources connected with the couple tell TMZ. ...... Sources familiar with the split tell us Katie is filing for sole legal custody -- as we first reported -- specifically because she does not want Tom to control decisions relating to religion.Case in point, Katie doesn't want her child to be a Scientologist. So, she's seeking sole custody of her child. - GTA |
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« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2012, 05:52:44 PM » |
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Katie Holmes filed for divorce primarily over Tom Cruise's fierce ties to Scientology, fearing that Tom would drag Suri deep into the church ... sources connected with the couple tell TMZ. ...... Sources familiar with the split tell us Katie is filing for sole legal custody -- as we first reported -- specifically because she does not want Tom to control decisions relating to religion.Case in point, Katie doesn't want her child to be a Scientologist. So, she's seeking sole custody of her child. - GTA Translation: An immature whiny dink falls head-over-heels for a ding-a-ling; discovers source of ding-a-lingness (after the fact!) and files for divorce. The REAL problem? Little child stuck in middle. Clowns to the left of her, jokers to the right... |
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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2012, 06:56:10 PM » |
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Clowns to the left of her, jokers to the right...
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« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2012, 07:40:55 PM » |
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Glad to see she had the balls to do it. She seemed very unhappy for years.
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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2012, 08:09:23 PM » |
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And people think Orthodoxy is cultish...Orthodoxy's got nothing on Scientology.
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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2012, 09:23:57 PM » |
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Have you ever really looked into Scientology?
It's very interesting in the weirdest way possible.
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“Without music, life would be a mistake.”
“The last capitalist we hang shall be the one who sold us the rope.”
"Face the facts of being what you are, for that is what changes what you are."
"We see at once that the words absolute, divine, eternal, and so on do not express what is implied in them.
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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2012, 10:42:54 PM » |
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Have you ever really looked into Scientology?
It's very interesting in the weirdest way possible.
For humor: Scientology's L. Ron Hubbard: Kooky Wacky Crazy Talk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leBn2p170SgMore seriously, you can research the relation between Scientology and Aleister Crowley. |
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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2012, 10:48:21 PM » |
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IIRC, her mother had been rather upset when Katie married Cruise.
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« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2012, 10:50:23 PM » |
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IIRC, her mother had been rather upset when Katie married Cruise.
I would too. He's a wacko. I still love him as an actor though. |
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“Without music, life would be a mistake.”
“The last capitalist we hang shall be the one who sold us the rope.”
"Face the facts of being what you are, for that is what changes what you are."
"We see at once that the words absolute, divine, eternal, and so on do not express what is implied in them.
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« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2012, 11:05:58 PM » |
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He's a wacko.
I still love him as an actor though.
One comment was that the movie he did with Nicole Kidman Eyes Wide Shut was related to Scientology, because of the cultish aspects: High profile people, including top celebrities who secretly engage in cult rituals. There were also stories about orgies in Scientology, but I doubt whether they were widespread. I also saw a clip a few years ago on youtube where he was wearing jeans and talking about himself in a straightforward way. It appeared to be a scene from a movie. Does anyone remember this? I don't remember it from Vanilla Sky, but the scene reminds me of something more from that movie or from Magnolia than other movies of his I saw. I remember thinking that it's as if he was describing his experience or personality in relation to scientology and that made it humorous. But of course I doubt he would make a critical portrayal like that knowingly in a movie. |
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« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2012, 12:52:06 AM » |
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And people think Orthodoxy is cultish...Orthodoxy's got nothing on Scientology.
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« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2012, 01:00:16 AM » |
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I hope she returns to her Catholicism and raises their child in it. It's unfortunate that the child will have to live in a broken family, but if she can raised with Christ and not in a cult, then this is overjoyous news.
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« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2012, 01:13:25 AM » |
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And people think Orthodoxy is cultish...Orthodoxy's got nothing on Scientology.
Who thinks Orthodoxy is cultish? Plenty of Protestants. |
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“Without music, life would be a mistake.”
“The last capitalist we hang shall be the one who sold us the rope.”
"Face the facts of being what you are, for that is what changes what you are."
"We see at once that the words absolute, divine, eternal, and so on do not express what is implied in them.
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« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2012, 02:43:50 AM » |
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IIRC, her mother had been rather upset when Katie married Cruise.
I would too. He's a wacko. I still love him as an actor though. Only when a great director is pulling the strings: Kubrik, P. T. Anderson . . . |
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We cannot legislate morality by passing laws controlling firearms. The only evil we can combat lies within our hearts. We need stronger laws to protect the moral foundation of society against the evil of gay marriage. |
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« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2012, 02:47:30 AM » |
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He's a wacko.
I still love him as an actor though.
One comment was that the movie he did with Nicole Kidman Eyes Wide Shut was related to Scientology, because of the cultish aspects: High profile people, including top celebrities who secretly engage in cult rituals. There were also stories about orgies in Scientology, but I doubt whether they were widespread. I also saw a clip a few years ago on youtube where he was wearing jeans and talking about himself in a straightforward way. It appeared to be a scene from a movie. Does anyone remember this? I don't remember it from Vanilla Sky, but the scene reminds me of something more from that movie or from Magnolia than other movies of his I saw. I remember thinking that it's as if he was describing his experience or personality in relation to scientology and that made it humorous. But of course I doubt he would make a critical portrayal like that knowingly in a movie. The Schnitzler work that movie is very closely based on, Traumnovella, predates Scientology by quite a bit. Now if you want to argue that Schnitzler and Freud influenced each other a lot and that Hubbard got a lot of his ideas from odd post-Freudians, maybe. But neither Kubrik nor Schnitzler would have ever had anything to do with such nonsense. Great text. Great movie. Nothing to do with Scientology though, at least in any meaningful sense. It did end that marriage. Kubrik saw to that. |
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« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2012, 02:54:02 PM » |
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Katie Holmes filed for divorce primarily over Tom Cruise's fierce ties to Scientology, fearing that Tom would drag Suri deep into the church ... sources connected with the couple tell TMZ. ...... Sources familiar with the split tell us Katie is filing for sole legal custody -- as we first reported -- specifically because she does not want Tom to control decisions relating to religion.Case in point, Katie doesn't want her child to be a Scientologist. So, she's seeking sole custody of her child. - GTA But then her kids could shoot lightning into Oprah Winfrey's hands. (Lol youtube it) |
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« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2012, 03:37:29 PM » |
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But then her kids could shoot lightning into Oprah Winfrey's hands. (Lol youtube it)
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« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2012, 03:40:20 PM » |
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He's a wacko.
I still love him as an actor though.
One comment was that the movie he did with Nicole Kidman Eyes Wide Shut was related to Scientology, because of the cultish aspects: High profile people, including top celebrities who secretly engage in cult rituals. There were also stories about orgies in Scientology, but I doubt whether they were widespread. I also saw a clip a few years ago on youtube where he was wearing jeans and talking about himself in a straightforward way. It appeared to be a scene from a movie. Does anyone remember this? I don't remember it from Vanilla Sky, but the scene reminds me of something more from that movie or from Magnolia than other movies of his I saw. I remember thinking that it's as if he was describing his experience or personality in relation to scientology and that made it humorous. But of course I doubt he would make a critical portrayal like that knowingly in a movie. The Schnitzler work that movie is very closely based on, Traumnovella, predates Scientology by quite a bit. Now if you want to argue that Schnitzler and Freud influenced each other a lot and that Hubbard got a lot of his ideas from odd post-Freudians, maybe. But neither Kubrik nor Schnitzler would have ever had anything to do with such nonsense. Great text. Great movie. Nothing to do with Scientology though, at least in any meaningful sense. It did end that marriage. Kubrik saw to that. Interesting remarks by you showing that it preceded Hubbard. Now perhaps there could be a relation between Scientology and Kubrik's decision to make the movie or use Cruise, but not necessarily. On another note, do you think the movie is based on reality, where there is some weird occult group run by the world's elites? Is it talking about Masonic leadership or something, maybe? |
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« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2012, 03:41:07 PM » |
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But then her kids could shoot lightning into Oprah Winfrey's hands. (Lol youtube it)
Don't need to. Ironically this was the clip for where Cruise first met Katie publicly in relation to their marriage. |
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« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2012, 04:44:09 PM » |
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That was a long, but fascinating and very educational look at Scientology. Thanks for posting that. |
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« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2012, 03:03:38 PM » |
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Plenty of Protestants.
Plenty of Orthodox too, who aren't comfortable with Orthodoxy in its more traditional forms. |
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« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2012, 03:46:22 PM » |
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He's a wacko.
I still love him as an actor though.
One comment was that the movie he did with Nicole Kidman Eyes Wide Shut was related to Scientology, because of the cultish aspects: High profile people, including top celebrities who secretly engage in cult rituals. There were also stories about orgies in Scientology, but I doubt whether they were widespread. I also saw a clip a few years ago on youtube where he was wearing jeans and talking about himself in a straightforward way. It appeared to be a scene from a movie. Does anyone remember this? I don't remember it from Vanilla Sky, but the scene reminds me of something more from that movie or from Magnolia than other movies of his I saw. I remember thinking that it's as if he was describing his experience or personality in relation to scientology and that made it humorous. But of course I doubt he would make a critical portrayal like that knowingly in a movie. The Schnitzler work that movie is very closely based on, Traumnovella, predates Scientology by quite a bit. Now if you want to argue that Schnitzler and Freud influenced each other a lot and that Hubbard got a lot of his ideas from odd post-Freudians, maybe. But neither Kubrik nor Schnitzler would have ever had anything to do with such nonsense. Great text. Great movie. Nothing to do with Scientology though, at least in any meaningful sense. It did end that marriage. Kubrik saw to that. Interesting remarks by you showing that it preceded Hubbard. Now perhaps there could be a relation between Scientology and Kubrik's decision to make the movie or use Cruise, but not necessarily. On another note, do you think the movie is based on reality, where there is some weird occult group run by the world's elites? Is it talking about Masonic leadership or something, maybe? Unfortunately, I could expand on this for probably a book or at least a few dozen pages. [redacted attempt at a quick explanation of the text and film] |
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« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2012, 04:07:27 PM » |
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Way to go. Fixing one sin (marrying an apostate) with another sin (divorce). Isn't she a saint? James, you are losing your edge here. Not only are you wrong. You didn't make me read at least 1,200 words. You are being boorish. You used isn't. |
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Way to go. Fixing one sin (marrying an apostate) with another sin (divorce). Isn't she a saint? Your posts make me laugh at least twice a day. |
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