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« on: June 27, 2012, 01:43:12 PM »

Healing, economia, theosis.  These concepts are all but foreign to me as a cradle catholic.  The RCC speaks of being pastoral, and of course they are, but this idea that one is healed from sin, rather than "penalized" and then forgiven is wonderfully pastoral. That in itself leads one down the path to theosis.
Economia respects the judgment of the Patriarch or Priest, instead of consulting canon law.

The EOC seems to me to be so much more understanding of the average sinner, and has the tools given her by Christ to lead them down the narrow way.

Am I wrong?
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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2012, 01:44:20 PM »

One i forgot is the EOC's perfect understanding of Original Sin. Truly perfect.
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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2012, 02:13:33 PM »

Yeah, that's what is drawing me, too!

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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2012, 02:25:43 PM »

Beauty, eh?
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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2012, 02:17:36 AM »

I don't think you're wrong (but of course I am quite biased)

I remember feeling as I left Roman Catholicism that it had only ever talked about things that I was now given the tools to manipulate. Orthodoxy understood my sins at a deeper level and was more ready with hands-on, practical information on combating them, which funnily enough often relied upon my giving up control. In Orthodoxy I believe I was truly taught how to pray, and the importance of it.

Not that I did not pray as a Roman Catholic, and not that I think those prayers were anything like in vain, but Orthodoxy, I feel, taught me to pray at a deeper level, and why. Truly that has made the difference.
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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2012, 04:09:19 AM »

I also am perhaps biased but think you are correct. Even though I come from a Protestant background, half my family are RC and both faiths seemed overly legalistic to me. The Orthodox idea of the Church as hospital is one of the things that really drew me in. I know this is not entirely absent in heterodox churches but it is certainly de-emphasised to the point where it almost vanishes from view. The pastoral care I have received in the Orthodox church has helped me avoid sin (obviously not all, I'm still human, but certain sins I found difficult to overcome really have become things of the past), not simply absolved me of it.

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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2012, 09:41:38 PM »

Healing, economia, theosis.  These concepts are all but foreign to me as a cradle catholic.  The RCC speaks of being pastoral, and of course they are, but this idea that one is healed from sin, rather than "penalized" and then forgiven is wonderfully pastoral. That in itself leads one down the path to theosis.
Economia respects the judgment of the Patriarch or Priest, instead of consulting canon law.

The EOC seems to me to be so much more understanding of the average sinner, and has the tools given her by Christ to lead them down the narrow way.

Am I wrong?

I don't know you're personal experience as a Roman Catholic, but to be honest with you, you can believe these things and try to implement them into you're daily spiritual life without believing or doing anything that is mutually exclusive to what Rome teaches or allows to be practiced.

Just a thought.
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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2012, 02:58:17 AM »

Many Catholics I know have a more "eastern" perspective of original sin, especially those who are better catechized.
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« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2012, 03:50:01 AM »


I don't know you're personal experience as a Roman Catholic, but to be honest with you, you can believe these things and try to implement them into you're daily spiritual life without believing or doing anything that is mutually exclusive to what Rome teaches or allows to be practiced.

Just a thought.

This is an excellent point.  As an Anglican I too shear away from the legalistic nature of Western worship and in this respect the Orthodoxy tradition is invaluable in helping to maintain balance. 

But is the Divine Liturgy that grabs me.  Although the words are basically the same as those said in an Anglican church, there is more going on than we appreciate.  I no longer come as one coming to a court to be 'judged' but rather as one who has made mistakes and wishes to move on.  It seems to me the Western church is still anchored at the foot of the cross.  There is more the God than being relieved of sin. 
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« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2012, 08:24:27 AM »

When I looked into RC'ism, there were many problems, but one big one was infallibility in respect to all the legalism. If one "infallible" statement was proven wrong, the house tumbles down, and there is no rebuilding it.

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