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« on: June 25, 2012, 09:47:16 PM »

I am looking for a prayerbook that contains standard morning prayers, evening prayers which utilize the following form: trisagion, troop aria, st macarius prayer, st Antiochus prayer, holy spirit prayer, st macarius prayer, etc.

I'd also like prayers for the table, for the sick, the deceased, prayers before and after communion.

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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2012, 09:49:39 PM »

Jordanville Prayer book is the option for you if you do not mind them being a little bit longer.
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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2012, 08:50:16 AM »

My two suggestions:

Little Red Prayer Book (Antiochian)
Old Orthodox Prayer Book (Russisan Old Believer)

Each of these books have been reviewed multiple times on the forum.  The Old Orthodox Prayer Book, is my choice.  But I do attend an Antiochian church...

Also, Big Chris I'm walking with you.  I have been following your posts&there are a number of points that stand with my own inquiry.
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« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2012, 09:05:07 AM »

Fr Anthony Coniaris has a good, doctrinally sound, comprehensive & friendly prayerbook:   http://www.amazon.com/My-Daily-Orthodox-Prayer-Book/dp/B0010AYQN6
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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2012, 09:57:07 PM »

Margarita's suggestions are very good, I like both of those. Same with JamesR. The Jordanville (i.e., Holy Trinity Monastery in Jordanville, NY) prayer book is my standard, though I have say I like the Prayer Book put out by St. Tikhon's Press, as well. Both follow the Russian tradition in morning/evening prayers, which is what you seem to be asking for. I don't know much about non-Slavic private devotions for morning/evening, so I can't speak to that.

I also have to recommend the little red Antiochian prayer book, as well. It's very portable, and has a lot of nice, short occasional prayers (i.e., for meals, travel, illness, the departed etc.) as well as a neat little confession guide based on the 10 commandments, which is my usual go-to guide. Though, the morning/evening prayers are on the "side of brevity" as one Antiochian priest once said to me about way they approach prayer in general (lol) and so it won't include all those numbered prayers like in the Jordanville or STS prayer books.
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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2012, 11:19:28 PM »

Though, the morning/evening prayers are on the "side of brevity" as one Antiochian priest once said to me about way they approach prayer in general (lol)

This is exactly why I follow the Old Orthodox Prayer Book!  I want, I need substance when I pray.  Anything else, I don't understand.  In fact, it offends, IMHO.  Glory, the church I attend is quite thick in substance during verspers&DL.  It is great for all the other points you mentioned.

Holy Trinity Monastery&St. Tikhon is next on my list.  I've heard great reviews...
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« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2012, 11:57:23 PM »

Though, the morning/evening prayers are on the "side of brevity" as one Antiochian priest once said to me about way they approach prayer in general (lol)

This is exactly why I follow the Old Orthodox Prayer Book!  I want, I need substance when I pray.  Anything else, I don't understand.  In fact, it offends, IMHO.  Glory, the church I attend is quite thick in substance during verspers&DL.  It is great for all the other points you mentioned.

Holy Trinity Monastery&St. Tikhon is next on my list.  I've heard great reviews...

I understand! Though, I have to admit that I do use the Antiochian morning/evening prayers when I need to utilize "brevity" for one reason or another (such as being lazy and then not having the time I should've devoted to my prayers). I like the prayers the book uses, I just prefer the fuller version found in the Russian books.

I love my Jordanville, though I've been considering a switch to the STS prayer book. I hesitate because the translation is a bit different and I don't usually like switching to other translations, but the STS book provides forms for commemorating things American (such as in civil authorities and the OCA Metropolitan and one's diocesan bishop) instead of for the ROCOR hierarchy and prayers for the Russian diaspora. I love ROCOR, but I'm not in ROCOR, nor am I ethnically Russian. I already re-phrase or omit those prayers anyway...
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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2012, 03:25:49 PM »

I understand! Though, I have to admit that I do use the Antiochian morning/evening prayers when I need to utilize "brevity" for one reason or another (such as being lazy and then not having the time I should've devoted to my prayers). I like the prayers the book uses, I just prefer the fuller version found in the Russian books.

It's great for those moments of sickness, laziness, lack of time etc.  Short&Sweet   I can relate to your feelings for the roundness of the Russian texts, I like that part very much.  I am very curious to attend a service at my local ROCOR church, it's just outside the city limit.  Soon I hope!
 
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I love my Jordanville, though I've been considering a switch to the STS prayer book. I hesitate because the translation is a bit different and I don't usually like switching to other translations, but the STS book provides forms for commemorating things American (such as in civil authorities and the OCA Metropolitan and one's diocesan bishop) instead of for the ROCOR hierarchy and prayers for the Russian diaspora. I love ROCOR, but I'm not in ROCOR, nor am I ethnically Russian. I already re-phrase or omit those prayers anyway...

The STS prayerbook is the recommendation of my priest, that I use.  I'm going to give it a try.  Yeah, changing translations can be a pain in the beginning.  The small difference between the Old Russian&Antiochian prayerbook can be felt, especially during service.  I'm not Russian nor do I attended the ROCOR or OCA churches, although I would if they were readily available here.  Nonetheless, as of now I pray for all Metropolitans&Bishops&Brethren.
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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2012, 10:00:46 PM »

Another choice is this one from the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese.
   
I got mine in the St.Photios Bookstore in St. Augustine FL many years ago and it is usually found in most church bookstores or at Light & Life.  It's a great book, using modern English, unlike the Antiochian Prayerbook.  However, the latter fits in my back pocket (has a stapled binding rather than a paperback book glued binding)  The Greek Archdiocese book is about 1/2 inch (1 cm) thick and doesn't travel well in a back pocket like the Little Red Book; plus the LRB has more and varied prayers and the entire Divine Litrugy, by the use of rather small type.  But I always have it with me.
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« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2012, 11:53:55 PM »

anyone have a link to the STS prayerbook? Is that the St. Tikhons? I didnt see it on their web site. IS it called something else?
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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2012, 12:15:53 AM »

This one is becoming very popular for those who do not want victorian english, but want respectful english:

http://www.allsaintsofalaska.ca/index.php/the-orthodox-prayer-book
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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2012, 12:16:58 AM »

anyone have a link to the STS prayerbook? Is that the St. Tikhons? I didnt see it on their web site. IS it called something else?

http://www.stspress.com/products-page/books/orthodox-daily-prayers/
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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2012, 12:25:29 AM »

This one is becoming very popular for those who do not want victorian english, but want respectful english:

http://www.allsaintsofalaska.ca/index.php/the-orthodox-prayer-book
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« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2012, 02:26:00 AM »

I want a second copy.
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« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2012, 07:11:34 AM »

This one is becoming very popular for those who do not want victorian english, but want respectful english:

http://www.allsaintsofalaska.ca/index.php/the-orthodox-prayer-book
That shipping price is a dagger.
You should see what shipping usually is from US to Canada. It verges on criminal. Fortunately, I'm less than a half hour from the border. I have a daughter-in-law who lives in Canada but continues to work in US (US born). She maintains a PO box in the US and I have things shipped there. In fact, later this morning I'm off to meet her to pick up some books I ordered. For church orders, we have them shipped to a church in Niagara Falls, NY. Bringing them across the border that way usually avoids customs fees as well, especially if it's a relatively small amount.
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« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2012, 08:46:37 AM »

anyone have a link to the STS prayerbook? Is that the St. Tikhons? I didnt see it on their web site. IS it called something else?

http://www.stspress.com/products-page/books/orthodox-daily-prayers/

thanks. i was looking at the wrong thing!
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