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I've recently discovered that I am...Not only am I a dirty latin Scholastic but also a contrarian. When I'm around liberals I argue for conservatism, when around conservatives for liberalism. Around atheists I argue for religion, when around the religious I argue for irreligion. Around Protestants I argue for Orthodoxy, around Orthodox for Roman Catholicism, around Roman Catholics I argue for Protestantism. My brother wants McDonalds, I want Burger King. I even argue with myself. If you tell me that I am a contrarian then I will most likely deny it and argue against it like a big baby. And if you tell me that I am not a contrarian I will then probably try and convince you that I am one.
Anyone else suffer from this cynical condition?
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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2012, 10:00:40 PM » |
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Nah, you're not a contrarian.
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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2012, 10:12:37 PM » |
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McDonald's? Burger King?
You all ain't got a Wendy's at least?
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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2012, 10:17:04 PM » |
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McDonald's? Burger King?
You all ain't got a Wendy's at least?
Move.
You do have a White Castle which makes me want to move that much more. So that makes my opinions on Nutrition and Diet void. |
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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2012, 10:31:06 PM » |
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McDonald's? Burger King?
You all ain't got a Wendy's at least?
Move.
You do have a White Castle which makes me want to move that much more. So that makes my opinions on Nutrition and Diet void. Never been to a White Castle. |
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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2012, 11:57:44 PM » |
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McDonald's? Burger King?
You all ain't got a Wendy's at least?
Move.
You do have a White Castle which makes me want to move that much more. So that makes my opinions on Nutrition and Diet void. Never been to a White Castle. I'm jealous. |
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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2012, 01:18:54 AM » |
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I can relate. I like to challenge liberals and conservatives alike. On this forum I've been accused of being a raving fundamentalist and a flaming liberal. I definitely have a contrarian streak in me. This can be a good thing and a bad thing. Contrarians help to challenge the satus quo, but contrarians are often full of pride. I know I am.
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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2012, 01:25:57 AM » |
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Maybe not a contrarian, possibly a moderate.
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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2012, 01:30:37 AM » |
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“The last capitalist we hang shall be the one who sold us the rope.”
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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2012, 02:24:11 AM » |
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McDonald's? Burger King?
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Wendy's is ten times as good as Burger King |
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« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2012, 05:14:23 AM » |
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McDonald's? Burger King?
You all ain't got a Wendy's at least?
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« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2012, 06:03:50 AM » |
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Only when it comes to investing. The herd mentality consistently loses their money.
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« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2012, 07:16:05 AM » |
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McDonald's? Burger King?
You all ain't got a Wendy's at least?
Move.
You do have a White Castle which makes me want to move that much more. So that makes my opinions on Nutrition and Diet void. Never been to a White Castle. This explains so much . . . |
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« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2012, 07:41:39 AM » |
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I've recently discovered that I am... a contrarian. ... I argue ... I argue ... I argue ... I argue ... I argue ... I even argue with myself. ... I will most likely...argue against it like a big baby.
Anyone else suffer from this cynical condition?
You raised the question elsewhere, (not an exact quote): "Now that I've been baptized, what's next?" |
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« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2012, 08:36:12 AM » |
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I dont think you're a contrarian, unless you actually believe what you're saying. In discussions like what you mentioned, there is nothing wrong with playing "devil's advocate".
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« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2012, 09:07:28 AM » |
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I wouldn't say that I'm a contrarian but it seems that often my opinions don't fit into neat liberal/conservative boxes. Thus I am too liberal for conservatives and too conservative for liberals. Though I do think that "liberal" and "conservative" are terms which are generally so poorly defined/understood that it makes discussion difficult, if not downright futile. Of course, that's never stopped me!
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« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2012, 11:45:34 PM » |
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McDonald's? Burger King?
You all ain't got a Wendy's at least?
Move.
Wendy's is ten times as good as Burger King Quizno's ftw! Their chili is a lot better than Wendy's. It contains more substance and is not as watery. Wait, am I somehow violating forum rules by getting off topic? |
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« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2012, 11:43:35 AM » |
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McDonald's? Burger King?
You all ain't got a Wendy's at least?
Move.
Wendy's is ten times as good as Burger King Quizno's ftw! Their chili is a lot better than Wendy's. It contains more substance and is not as watery. Wait, am I somehow violating forum rules by getting off topic?
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« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2012, 12:50:45 PM » |
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I am not a contrarian, but I sometimes give off the vibe because I do not like the lack of nuance or honesty many people who embrace nebulous self-identifications like “conservative” and “liberal” (or, dare I say, “Catholic” and “Orthodox”) often display.
And I am certainly guilty of the above as well, at least on the Internet. I suppose that doesn’t make me contrarian so much as it makes me a hypocrite.
In real life I am not that confrontational, preferring instead to make non-committal nods and remind myself that I’m at least supposed to believe that I’m a worse sinner than the person talking.
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« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2012, 02:35:52 PM » |
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McDonald's? Burger King?
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Move.
Puzata Hata I've heard Puzata Hata is great! Can you ship us some? :-D The only instances that I catch myself being a "contrarian" is when speaking about Ukrainian Orthodoxy. I will defend all things Ukrainian, .....until I get in a discussion with some members of the KP crowd, who blindly defend all things Ukrainian to the detriment of all things Orthodox....and I find myself defending Orthodoxy against things Ukrainian. To be honest.....it kills me. |
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« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2012, 04:37:36 PM » |
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I've recently discovered that I am...Not only am I a dirty latin Scholastic but also a contrarian. When I'm around liberals I argue for conservatism, when around conservatives for liberalism. Around atheists I argue for religion, when around the religious I argue for irreligion. Around Protestants I argue for Orthodoxy, around Orthodox for Roman Catholicism, around Roman Catholics I argue for Protestantism. My brother wants McDonalds, I want Burger King. I even argue with myself. If you tell me that I am a contrarian then I will most likely deny it and argue against it like a big baby. And if you tell me that I am not a contrarian I will then probably try and convince you that I am one.
Anyone else suffer from this cynical condition?
I sometimes can fall into this category, especially when debating with liberals and conservatives separately. I use to identify my self as a liberal conservative (being too liberal for conservatives and too conservative for liberals) until I found out about the Libertarian Party. However, I find that this usually stops with just politics as when around Protestants or Catholics I argue for Orthodoxy, I don't argue against religion per se, but maybe against certain religions or denominations and their practices, and I don't argue for atheism, or agnosticism. Although I will always be accused that I love to argue, which is true, though it is something that I have been working on for quite sometime (I must admit that this is a trait I get directly from my father, and probably my brother as well. It has served me some good since it ultimately led me to Orthodoxy, but it tends to sour some of my relationships.) |
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« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2012, 08:45:31 PM » |
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« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2012, 09:21:33 PM » |
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Not only am I a dirty latin Scholastic What exactly do you think that is? And if you tell me that I am not a contrarian I will then probably try and convince you that I am one.
I don't believe you fit the description, but... who cares? If you think you are then just live your life. |
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« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2012, 09:29:21 PM » |
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Not only am I a dirty latin Scholastic What exactly do you think that is? And if you tell me that I am not a contrarian I will then probably try and convince you that I am one.
I don't believe you fit the description, but... who cares? If you think you are then just live your life. Nice avatar. My grandfather was the spitting image of Willy. My father always looked like Chuck Norris. And I get Thom York or Vincent Van Gogh. The celebrity cool look a like factor is devolving in my family. |
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We cannot legislate morality by passing laws controlling firearms. The only evil we can combat lies within our hearts. We need stronger laws to protect the moral foundation of society against the evil of gay marriage. |
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« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2012, 09:34:24 PM » |
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Not only am I a dirty latin Scholastic What exactly do you think that is? And if you tell me that I am not a contrarian I will then probably try and convince you that I am one.
I don't believe you fit the description, but... who cares? If you think you are then just live your life. Nice avatar. My grandfather was the spitting image of Willy. My father always looked like Chuck Norris. And I get Thom York or Vincent Van Gogh. The celebrity cool look a like factor is devolving in my family. Hey, Thom York is cool. I don't listen to his stuff much anymore, but he's definitely cool. |
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