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« Reply #90 on: June 30, 2012, 07:31:42 AM »

I don't like the term "Roman Catholic" because it was invented by Anglicans in an attempt to claim that their catholicity is on par with ours.

To be fair, though, it isn't unheard of for an opponent-given-name to later become standard. (For example, "Lutheran" and "Methodist" are both opponent-given-names.)

I wonder how would you explain the usage of the term "Roman Catholics" in countries where there are no Anglicans. What international conspiracy would you find?

Anglicans are responsible for the English term "Roman Catholics". Other groups are responsible for the comparable term in other languages.
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« Reply #91 on: June 30, 2012, 08:20:20 AM »

I don't like the term "Roman Catholic" because it was invented by Anglicans in an attempt to claim that their catholicity is on par with ours.

To be fair, though, it isn't unheard of for an opponent-given-name to later become standard. (For example, "Lutheran" and "Methodist" are both opponent-given-names.)

I wonder how would you explain the usage of the term "Roman Catholics" in countries where there are no Anglicans. What international conspiracy would you find?

Anglicans are responsible for the English term "Roman Catholics". Other groups are responsible for the comparable term in other languages.

You also need to blame many popes for this term as well.  Many documents by the Vatican contain just such language.
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« Reply #92 on: June 30, 2012, 03:38:11 PM »

Other groups are responsible for the comparable term in other languages.

What other groups? Jews? Homosexuals? Freemasons? Illuminati?
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« Reply #93 on: December 03, 2012, 11:58:32 PM »

Other groups are responsible for the comparable term in other languages.

What other groups? Jews? Homosexuals? Freemasons? Illuminati?

I think 2pac is to blame for the title
Of Roman Catholic.......makaveli? Caluminati? City of LA? All eyez on me?
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« Reply #94 on: December 04, 2012, 10:55:17 AM »

Other groups are responsible for the comparable term in other languages.

What other groups? Jews? Homosexuals? Freemasons? Illuminati?

Klingons.
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« Reply #95 on: December 04, 2012, 11:49:44 AM »

I wonder how would you explain the usage of the term "Roman Catholics" in countries where there are no Anglicans. What international conspiracy would you find?

Anglicans are responsible for the English term "Roman Catholics". Other groups are responsible for the comparable term in other languages.

Of course, if we want to really be consistent, then we shouldn't say that the term "Christians" originated in first-century Antioch, but rather that it is the English equivalent of a term that originated in first-century Antioch.
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« Reply #96 on: December 04, 2012, 01:01:52 PM »

Maybe we should just change it to "Church of The Way" then, as the name "Christian" is clearly an innovation  Grin

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« Reply #97 on: December 04, 2012, 08:16:13 PM »

In my opinion, I think that the adoption of "Roman Catholic" developed to differentiate the followers of Rome from other Christians following the Reformation and other divisions.

It is unfortunate that Catholicism was systematized and formed into a "central bureaucracy" throughout the Middle Ages and into the Modern era; the ancient sees which had retained their own rites of Mass, such as Lyon, Milan, Toledo, Sarum, York, and others lost their predominance, due to canons in the Council of Trent.

As a result, the usages of these Churches have almost been lost in contemporary society and hinder the local revitalization of Western Christianity on the part of most Catholics who are insistent to always look to Rome for every answer.
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