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What Liturgy do the Orthodox use for Advent/St.Philip's Fast?
« on: November 13, 2004, 05:56:58 PM »
Is it true that Orthodox only say the Liturgy of the Presanctifiied during St.Philip's Fast, as Dom Gueranger tells us? See here
http://stpeters-troy.tripod.com/72.html

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Re:What Liturgy do the Orthodox use for Advent/St.Philip's Fast?
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2004, 08:47:06 PM »
The link does not work so I can't see to what you are referring.

But, no.  The Liturgy of the Presanctified is not used during the advent season.
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Re:What Liturgy do the Orthodox use for Advent/St.Philip's Fast?
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2004, 11:06:59 PM »
I found the page that I think you were trying to link to. It actually doesn't say that the Orthodox serve the Liturgy of the Presanctified during the Nativity Fast (which we don't), but rather:

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They have no proper Office for Advent, neither do they celebrate during this time the Mass of the Presanctified, as they do in Lent.

Which basically means that we don't have special services for the Fast per se, nor do we have any special liturgies.

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Re:What Liturgy do the Orthodox use for Advent/St.Philip's Fast?
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2004, 11:32:10 PM »
I'm sorry, I have to read more carefully next time
« Last Edit: November 16, 2004, 11:32:28 PM by CatholicEagle »

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Re:What Liturgy do the Orthodox use for Advent/St.Philip's Fast?
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2004, 09:57:43 PM »
we do however in the Greek Tradition serve the sarantalitourgo for the 40 days of the nativity fast. which is a full liturgy with consecration.

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Re:What Liturgy do the Orthodox use for Advent/St.Philip's Fast?
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2004, 04:11:57 AM »
we do however in the Greek Tradition serve the sarantalitourgo for the 40 days of the nativity fast. which is a full liturgy with consecration.

Yes, in our parish we are having vigils almost every night until the Nativity :). It wasn't possible before due to the limit (unless I'm mistaken) of one Divine Liturgy per day in the church, but we now have a small chapel in the building behind the church which has allowed us a lot more freedom (dedicated to Saint Silouan)

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Re:What Liturgy do the Orthodox use for Advent/St.Philip's Fast?
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2004, 08:16:48 AM »
Vigil is not Liturgy - vigil is composed of vespers, mattins and first hour.
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Re:What Liturgy do the Orthodox use for Advent/St.Philip's Fast?
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2004, 09:59:19 AM »
Perhaps vigil is the wrong term then. In Greek it is "agripnia" and it includes the divine liturgy.

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Re:What Liturgy do the Orthodox use for Advent/St.Philip's Fast?
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2004, 07:26:06 PM »
see..
Prodromos knows whats he's talking about.

yeah Agripnia includes the Liturgy

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Re:What Liturgy do the Orthodox use for Advent/St.Philip's Fast?
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2004, 01:49:30 AM »
Wow. Your Greek Orthodox churches must be very active places. That's refreshing to see.  Here, unfortunately, Greek Orthodoxy is mainly a Sunday morning only religion. Kind of sad, really.

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Re:What Liturgy do the Orthodox use for Advent/St.Philip's Fast?
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2004, 02:57:59 AM »
I happen to live in Greece, so things are perhaps a little different here than in the diaspora :). Plus Thessaloniki has always had a reputation for prayer. Throw a rock in any direction and you are bound to hit a church :D

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Re:What Liturgy do the Orthodox use for Advent/St.Philip's Fast?
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2004, 07:55:13 AM »
It is nice to hear about Greek Orthodox parishes that are active.

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Re:What Liturgy do the Orthodox use for Advent/St.Philip's Fast?
« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2004, 02:16:43 AM »
I eagerly look forward to being able to see your parish next year, John!  It must be so nice to live in an Orthodox country...