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« on: June 22, 2012, 04:33:02 PM »

Actually, I know what it is but I am curious as to whether publications such as People magazine might fall under gossip?  What about "Reality" shows such as the Kardashians?  The Real Wives franchise? 
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« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2012, 04:39:59 PM »

Actually, I know what it is but I am curious as to whether publications such as People magazine might fall under gossip?  What about "Reality" shows such as the Kardashians?  The Real Wives franchise? 

Good question.  I'd say that People magazine probably engages in it less than something like Star magazine, as People tends to actually name sources.  Stuff like the latter usually just say, "..a source close to the celebrity says..." 

I'm not sure most reality TV falls under it, as a) it's not "real" and b) the people who star in such shows know what they're doing.  It's certainly trashy, but not gossip, IMHO.
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« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2012, 04:47:30 PM »

Actually, I know what it is but I am curious as to whether publications such as People magazine might fall under gossip?  What about "Reality" shows such as the Kardashians?  The Real Wives franchise?  

Good question.  I'd say that People magazine probably engages in it less than something like Star magazine, as People tends to actually name sources.  Stuff like the latter usually just say, "..a source close to the celebrity says..."  

I'm not sure most reality TV falls under it, as a) it's not "real" and b) the people who star in such shows know what they're doing.  It's certainly trashy, but not gossip, IMHO.

But even if information comes with sources, I think it can still fall under the heading 'gossip', yes?  BTW, here's a Soviet Era poster I thought was comically interesting:


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« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2012, 04:50:53 PM »

Actually, I know what it is but I am curious as to whether publications such as People magazine might fall under gossip?  What about "Reality" shows such as the Kardashians?  The Real Wives franchise?  

Good question.  I'd say that People magazine probably engages in it less than something like Star magazine, as People tends to actually name sources.  Stuff like the latter usually just say, "..a source close to the celebrity says..."  

I'm not sure most reality TV falls under it, as a) it's not "real" and b) the people who star in such shows know what they're doing.  It's certainly trashy, but not gossip, IMHO.

But even if information comes with sources, I think it can still fall under the heading 'gossip', yes?  BTW, here's a Soviet Era poster I thought was comically interesting:


"Don't chat! Chatting leads to treason"

Most definitely, but in this litigious age, people (small p) usually won't go on record saying something bad about someone, even if it's true.  People tends to focus on more positive stories nowadays (note I said TENDS...they still do publish negative stuff).  Regardless, it's all crap.  My wife loves it, but she at least knows it's gossip.  Granted, I wish she'd take that knowledge and do something with it rather than revel in it, but it is what it is.

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« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2012, 04:57:31 PM »

Actually, I know what it is but I am curious as to whether publications such as People magazine might fall under gossip?  What about "Reality" shows such as the Kardashians?  The Real Wives franchise?  

Good question.  I'd say that People magazine probably engages in it less than something like Star magazine, as People tends to actually name sources.  Stuff like the latter usually just say, "..a source close to the celebrity says..."  

I'm not sure most reality TV falls under it, as a) it's not "real" and b) the people who star in such shows know what they're doing.  It's certainly trashy, but not gossip, IMHO.

But even if information comes with sources, I think it can still fall under the heading 'gossip', yes?  

 My wife loves it, but she at least knows it's gossip.  Granted, I wish she'd take that knowledge and do something with it rather than revel in it, but it is what it is.

 I'm right there with you, brother.  My wife loves some of that stuff.

PS- I think I just gossiped about my wife.  Lips Sealed
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« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2012, 05:00:22 PM »

I'd say if it doesn't play a signifcant role (e.g. as a major draw/attraction), then it's no big deal. So a reality tv show like Chopped would be completely fine, something like Top Chef less so but still fairly harmless, while other shows might be based almost entirely on gossip or related drama.
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« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2012, 05:14:20 PM »

90% or so of what comes out of people's mouths according to some descriptive anthropological linguistic sociological cross cultural study after listening to tens of thousands of hours of human speech.

They thought most human speech would be "pragmatic". But it was just yentering.

But really, are we going to take such disciplines seriously? I mean like they are so . . .

Seriously (actually that is serious above for the most part):

It is fun.
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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2012, 12:37:01 AM »

90% or so of what comes out of people's mouths according to some descriptive anthropological linguistic sociological cross cultural study after listening to tens of thousands of hours of human speech.

They thought most human speech would be "pragmatic". But it was just yentering.

But really, are we going to take such disciplines seriously? I mean like they are so . . .

Seriously (actually that is serious above for the most part):

It is fun.
How can something be seriously fun?
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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2012, 01:21:48 AM »

90% or so of what comes out of people's mouths according to some descriptive anthropological linguistic sociological cross cultural study after listening to tens of thousands of hours of human speech.

They thought most human speech would be "pragmatic". But it was just yentering.

But really, are we going to take such disciplines seriously? I mean like they are so . . .

Seriously (actually that is serious above for the most part):

It is fun.

What the hell is going on in the first sentence?
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« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2012, 09:02:29 AM »

90% or so of what comes out of people's mouths according to some descriptive anthropological linguistic sociological cross cultural study after listening to tens of thousands of hours of human speech.

They thought most human speech would be "pragmatic". But it was just yentering.

But really, are we going to take such disciplines seriously? I mean like they are so . . .

Seriously (actually that is serious above for the most part):

It is fun.

What the hell is going on in the first sentence?

Put the words, "Gossip is..." before it and it will make more sense.
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« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2012, 10:12:03 AM »

I look at it this way, is it edifying in any way? Okay, lots of things aren't. That's true. But, how does it make us react? A lot of those are printed so that people will go "Did you here what he did?!" To me, it's no different than gossip.
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« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2012, 11:41:14 AM »

I look at it this way, is it edifying in any way? Okay, lots of things aren't. That's true. But, how does it make us react? A lot of those are printed so that people will go "Did you here what he did?!" To me, it's no different than gossip.

This is what I was getting at.  Is just because it's been printed with accompanying sources necessarily mean we should read it or repeat it?  So back to People magazine (that's just the magazine that comes to mind);  Say a movie star or a parasitical socialite is written about.  There are quotes from friends and other sources.  Am I off the hook for talking about it simply because there are credible sources?  Just because it's printed, does it mean that it's my business?  I think if we talk about others, even if the information is true, it's not necessarily, but probably gossiping. 
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« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2012, 01:44:13 PM »

I is not gossip unless a woman does it.
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« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2012, 03:18:52 PM »

90% or so of what comes out of people's mouths according to some descriptive anthropological linguistic sociological cross cultural study after listening to tens of thousands of hours of human speech.

They thought most human speech would be "pragmatic". But it was just yentering.

But really, are we going to take such disciplines seriously? I mean like they are so . . .

Seriously (actually that is serious above for the most part):

It is fun.

What the hell is going on in the first sentence?

Put the words, "Gossip is..." before it and it will make more sense.

Or imagine that someone just asked:

"What is gossip?"

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